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What the H-E-Double Hockey Sticks Is Going On In Canada?
They just *had* an election. Harper's party made modest gains; the Grits were well and thoroughly trounced. So how is it that (Gawd help us) Stephane Dion might be taking over as Prime Minister?

This is an open thread. Canuckistanis, educate us ignorant Merkins, and please write slowly and use small words so we understand. Merci!
Posted by: Seafarious || 12/04/2008 05:47 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Did Soros buy Canada too?
Posted by: ed || 12/04/2008 8:42 Comments || Top||

#2  I am not a Canadian (IANAC?), but Mark Steyn is.

Here's his thoughts on the matter at NRO.
Posted by: Grenter, Protector of the Geats || 12/04/2008 9:03 Comments || Top||

#3  Someone called Canada a 'geopolitical accident' and its politics reflects this with different parties and party factions dominant in different regions. All governments are coalitions of these different parties.
Posted by: phil_b || 12/04/2008 9:08 Comments || Top||

#4  Another reason I hate Parliamentary systems.
Posted by: DarthVader || 12/04/2008 9:53 Comments || Top||

#5  Thanks for the Steyn link, Grenter. Here's more on how the vicereine might "be exercising long-standing powers of the Crown in support of Canada's parliamentary democracy"

Oh, Canada.
Posted by: Seafarious || 12/04/2008 10:19 Comments || Top||

#6  This is a major reason that I, too, hate parlimentary systems, and REALLY hate the fact that our a**holes in the State Dept. set up countries where we do nation building with this model.
Posted by: AlanC || 12/04/2008 10:47 Comments || Top||

#7  Naturally, AlanC, they hate the fact that things actually take time to get accomplished in our system and they are still bound down by silly wastes of time like 'checks and balances', which themselves are eroding away as we speak. So why wouldn't they pick a better system to keep the little people from sticking their long noses into the govt's business?
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 12/04/2008 11:56 Comments || Top||

#8  bigjim - you are of course correct.

The fact is that the DoS "people" are really jealous that they can't impose their favored system here.
Posted by: AlanC || 12/04/2008 12:54 Comments || Top||

#9  I'm not so crazy about the Steyn link (although I do enjoy reading Steyn) provided by Grenter. In Canada there are 305 seats in the house of parliment. There are 305 electoral districts called ridings. Every riding elects a member of parliment (MP). By past precedent, whatever party has the most MPs forms the government. We had an election ~7 weeks ago. The Conservatives won but with a little less than half the seats (methinks ~140). The Liberals won 77. The Separtists 50. The NDP (socialists) the rest, along with a few independents. If a government cannot get 153 votes (ie the majority)on a key piece of legislation (considered a 'confidence' vote), they are deemed unable to govern and we get a new election (again, past precedent). The conservatives are facing such a vote on Monday. They would likely loose. However, instead of forcing a new election, the Liberals & socialists want to form the new government without holding an election. However, combined they hold less seats than the conservatives, and this is key. They need the separtists support in order to pass any legislation, including confidence votes. So the near left Liberals and the far left NDP have signed an agreement with the separtist left. The Governor General (our unelected head of state, who also decides if the left coalition will get to form the new government if the conservatives loose power or can call an election to let the people decide) just agreed to alow the conservatives to suspend parliment until late January, when the conservatives will present a budget. This prevents the immediate confidence vote from occuring. However, the budget vote in late January will be a confidence vote, as budgets always are. This is where we currently stand.
Posted by: Chemist || 12/04/2008 12:55 Comments || Top||

#10  Harper shut down the government:

Less than two months after winning re-election, Harper successfully asked the unelected representative of the head of state for the power to close down Parliament until Jan. 26, hoping to buy enough time to develop a stimulus package that could prop up the economy.

"Today's decision will give us an opportunity — I'm talking about all the parties — to focus on the economy and work together," Harper said after the private meeting.

Governor General Michaelle Jean, who represents Britain's Queen Elizabeth II as head of state, granted the unusual request to suspend parliament. Had she refused, Harper would have had two choices: step down or face a no-confidence vote Monday he was sure to lose.

Harper would not offer details on their conversation.


Posted by: Seafarious || 12/04/2008 14:42 Comments || Top||

#11  Vancouver radio this morning was expressing the hope that the gov't would shut down to give everybody time to cool down and think things through rather than get all wound up.
they got their hope, now to see if there is any change.
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 12/04/2008 14:46 Comments || Top||

#12  We're getting our pitchforks sharpened and our torches all oiled up and ready for the demonstartions.

We'll see how those "Coalition of the Swilling" politicians respond to realpolitik.
Posted by: Canuckistan sniper || 12/04/2008 15:24 Comments || Top||

#13  "Demonstartions" . . . I kinda like that!
Posted by: Canuckistan sniper || 12/04/2008 15:25 Comments || Top||

#14  I do like the idea that in a Parliamentary system the election cycle is short. I like the idea that the opposition party creates a shadow government and thus policies. I like the idea that in a Parliamentary system the government can call a vote and get a referendum on what they are doing, or the party can remove the leader if they know the leader is unpopular but they want to stay in power.

I don't like the idea that the party in power controls the executive and legislative branches by definition. I like a balance. I want Taiwanese style fist fights shown on pay-per-view to help pay off the budgets.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 12/04/2008 16:04 Comments || Top||

#15  The only real freedom is the freedom to vote with your feet. So if you want good government you need federalism. The more the better.

We've long since done away with any meaningful federalism here, and the results speak for themselves.
Posted by: Iblis || 12/04/2008 16:16 Comments || Top||

#16  my prayers and hopes to our Canuck friends, who have proven true, sacrificing blood and treasure where the newly cobbled coalition would not
Posted by: Frank G || 12/04/2008 20:11 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Ala. county sets 'Barack Obama Day' as new holiday
A small central Alabama county whose mainly black residents gave Barack Obama more than 70 percent of the vote on Election Day has created an annual holiday in honor of the president-elect.

The Perry County Commission voted 4 to 1 to observe the second Monday in November as "The Barack Obama Day." County offices will close and its roughly 40 workers will get a paid holiday.

The sponsoring commissioner, Albert Turner Jr., said the holiday is meant to highlight the Democratic president-elect's victory as a way to give people faith that difficult goals can be achieved.

The majority of the county's 12,000 residents are black.

The county commission's three black members and one of its two white members voted for the resolution.

Commissioner Brett Harrison said Wednesday he voted against the resolution because of the holiday costs to the county, which has a $2.2 million annual payroll and is one of the poorest in the state. He said closing the courthouse would also idle some state employees.

"I'm a Democrat, but just in these financial times, it's not using the county's money wisely," Harrison told The Associated Press by phone Wednesday. "The recognition is certainly well-founded."

Turner said copies of the resolution, adopted at a Nov. 25 meeting, have been mailed to Obama and his transition team.

An Associated Press exit poll found black voters in Alabama almost universally supported Obama while more than eight in 10 whites backed Republican John McCain. McCain carried the state with 60 percent of the vote.
Posted by: Fred || 12/04/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Do they realize that he wouldn't piss on them even if they were on fire?
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 12/04/2008 13:27 Comments || Top||

#2  Most county government hacks wouldn't care if they call it Heinrich Himmler Day as long as it gets them another paid day off...
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/04/2008 16:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Racists.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 12/04/2008 17:24 Comments || Top||

#4  Lets make Dec 25th Barack Obama Day instead of the holiday for that other guy.
Posted by: The Left || 12/04/2008 20:09 Comments || Top||

#5  next up? Perry County requests bailout funds for budget relief
Posted by: Frank G || 12/04/2008 20:11 Comments || Top||

#6  ION OBAMA, WORLD MIL FORUM > IIUC, BARACK OBAMA'S ANCESTRAL HOME IS REPOR IN SW IRAN [Iran-Iraqi SHIITE area]. "MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD" IS NOW MASTER OF THE US WHITE HOUSE AND PRESIDENCY. LOCAL SHIITES WONDER IFF OBAMA IS TRULY CHRISTIAN, OR IS ELSE IS A MUSLIM "POSING" AS A US PROTESTANT OR CHRISTIAN???

* SAME > OBAMA'S GRANDFATHER WAS A LOYAL BRITISH SOLDIER DURING WW2 WHOM AFTER THE WAR WAS TORTURED BY THE BRITISH AFTER BECOMING A MAU-MAU AFRICAN REBEL.

HMMMMM....what I like to belabel "MARIANO'S WAR" - I can relate to these in many ways!?
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/04/2008 23:54 Comments || Top||


News from the Future: Franken Wins Recount in 2015
Coleman appeared to hold a decided advantage in the contest after he won the actual vote count in 2008. But as the dispute dragged on, the events following Election Day proved largely irrelevant -- minor skirmishes leading up to the legal, political and public relations battle that was to follow.

After the seventh recount of the vote was completed in September 2009 -- settling nothing since both candidates challenged every vote cast -- Franken filed simultaneous legal proceedings in state and federal courts, before the European Commission of Human Rights and with the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.

In 2010, Coleman suffered a setback when the Supreme Court issued its first decision on the contest. In what became known as the "Franken's Fools" decision, the court held that even those absentee ballots that voters forgot to mail must be counted.

No forgotten ballots were ever recovered, but Franken's crack legal team assembled a group of Harvard psychologists who submitted expert testimony at trial establishing that the average Franken voter was twice as likely as the average Coleman voter to be chronically forgetful about life's basic tasks.
Posted by: Frozen Al || 12/04/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

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Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 12/04/2008 5:13 Comments || Top||

#2  2016: Franken files suit to count potential votes from stoners to wasted to cast a vote. Claims 100% of that voter demographic.
Posted by: ed || 12/04/2008 8:12 Comments || Top||

#3  Hell, why don't they just have a do-over?

(BTW....I never ever want to hear another Minnesotan make a crack about Florida voters again....)
Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie || 12/04/2008 17:39 Comments || Top||



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