Golly. How many millions marched against the American invasion of Iraq in 2003?
[ENGLISH.ALARABIYA.NET] More than a quarter of a million Britons have signed an online petition to ban Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump from the country following his proposal to stop Muslims from entering the United States.
Trump, who owns two golf courses in Scotland which he visited earlier this year, called for a complete shutdown of Muslims entering the U.S. "until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on". His comments followed last week's deadly shooting spree by two Muslims in Caliphornia, an impregnable bastion of the Democratic Party,.
The number of signatories to the petition was growing fast but Britannia's finance minister George Osborne said on Wednesday that Trump should not be banned from the country.
In the past, people have been banned from entering Britannia for fostering hatred that might provoke inter-community violence.
The petition says: "If the United Kingdom is to continue applying the 'unacceptable behavior' criteria to those who wish to enter its borders, it must be fairly applied to the rich as well as poor, and the weak as well as the powerful."
It was launched by Suzanne Kelly, a Scottish-based campaigner and longtime critic of Trump's latest golf course in Aberdeenshire.
Aberdeen's Robert Gordon University said on Twitter on Wednesday it was revoking an honorary degree awarded to Trump in 2010 because he had "made a number of statements that are wholly incompatible with the ethos and values of the university".
Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon also stripped Trump of his role as a business ambassador for Scotland, a spokeswoman for her Edinburgh-based government said in a statement.
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They are so behind the times. They will learn the hard way. They have done this before with other Americans.
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Better to be respected than loved, and if not respected, feared. And if you don't 'believe' that, just look how the Islamists are operating in the West and all the accommodation paid to them by the ruling caste.
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Are there 350,000 Muslims in the UK who signed this petition? From what I heard, not so many Brits are too enthused about multiculturalism and the Muslim home invasion. If Hitler were not opposed during WWII, the Brits would be speaking German today. In some ways the present Islamic threat is more insidious and dangerous.
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It would be easy enough to get a quarter million digital signatures for almost anything. Just appeal to the emotions of uninformed teams and top it off with Muslims. I'm surprised they couldn't whip up higher numbers to be honest.
#8
If Trump did indeed ban all muslims from entering the US that would send a powerful message that the US is not going to tolerate any more sh*t from that quarter.
however, would he be able to actually do it?
no.
The reason is it would violate the constitutionally guaranteed freedom of religion
So activists would fight him in the courts, and even if he was able to pass the legislation it could not be enforced - every single case would have a volunteer pro bono lawyer to fight it all the way up to the supreme
Trump knows this unless he is stupid - and you do not make a pile of wealth by being stupid. So he knows.
my question is -- why did he say what he did?
Not to win voters... although there is a large swell of anger against Islamist terror attacks, even if it did get him over the line it would hobble his presidency and those same people that voted him in to ban muslims from entering would turn on him and hate him for not being able to.
So that is not what it is about.
my guess is he is doing it to create a buffoon persona that draws the idiot bigots away from the GOP
It gives the democrats, liberals and the moderate and reasonable republicans a figure to hate.
Then, when it is time to run against Hilary for real, the republicans will bring forth Jeb Bush
the reasonable candidate
who will look much better compared to Trump -- hopefully neutralising some of the hate-Bush-left.
That should help them run against Hillary
However be prepared for disappointment - that means Jeb Bush is going to do nothing about the real war on terror, which is the war on Islamist fascism
i think Trump is all about triangulation and setting the boundaries to help the real candidate in positioning
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true. without strong borders a country cannot stand
perhaps he is a bit about shifting the goal posts so that the left can move a little bit away from their unrealistic idiocy in that regard without losing their core vote
maybe Trump is thus a Hillary plant? Does she have enough money to buy him?
[WASHINGTONPOST] An unrepentant Donald Trump responded Thursday to the backlash in the U.K. over his controversial statements on Muslims by saying that British politicians should be grateful that he has stated "what needed to be said." "Hoot, mon!"
Writing in the Press and Journal, one of Scotland's oldest newspapers, the leading U.S. Republican presidential candidate accused them of pandering to political correctness when instead they "should be thanking me."
Trump has faced widespread outrage in the U.K. -- and indeed around the world -- over his calls for a complete ban on Muslims entering the United States. But while Trump has only doubled down since first making his incendiary remarks, he did appear to be put off by the reaction from Scotland.
On Wednesday, First Minister Nicola Sturgeon dropped him as a business ambassador, revoking his membership in the GlobalScot business network. The Robert Gordon University (RGU) in Aberdeen also stripped the billionaire developer of his honorary degree for statements it said were "wholly incompatible" with the values of the university.
"If they -- Nicola Sturgeon and RGU -- were going to do this, they should have informed me prior to my major investment in this £200million development, which will totally revitalise that vast region of Scotland," Trump wrote in the Press and Journal.
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On Wednesday, First Minister Nicola Sturgeon dropped him as a business ambassador, revoking his membership in the GlobalScot business network. The Robert Gordon University (RGU) in Aberdeen also stripped the billionaire developer of his honorary degree for statements it said were "wholly incompatible" with the values of the university.
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Scotland and the UK are not voting in our election. They can screw up their country however they want but leave ours alone. Unrestricted immigration has not worked out so well in Europe. Now they are reaping the results from bad immigration decisions.
[THEHILL] Three candidates for the Republican nomination have broken away from the rest of the pack, and two of them -- businessman Donald Trump and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz -- give the GOP establishment nightmares.
That leaves the third member of the trio, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, potentially well placed to pick up the support of center-right Republican voters who are looking for someone to stop Trump and Cruz at almost any cost.
But Rubio is behind both of his top-tier rivals in national polling averages and is even further back in Iowa, home to the first-in-the-nation caucuses, where he holds fourth place, albeit behind the fast-fading Ben Carson ... a neurosurgeon who is under the delusion that being brilliant qualifies him to be president.... .
An even deeper problem for the Florida senator is that other candidates who are competing for the same voters are unlikely to drop out before the New Hampshire primary. That means votes that might otherwise go to Rubio could instead be won by contenders such as former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and Ohio Gov. John Kasich.
Add all these factors together and it becomes clear why establishment Republicans are so concerned, especially in the wake of Trump's inflammatory call to ban Muslims from entering the United States. Cruz, meanwhile, has been enjoying a rapid rise in the polls.
"Listen, I think both Cruz and Trump would have a similar impact on the party, neither of which would be very good. I am actually more concerned about Cruz than I am about Trump," said GOP strategist John Feehery, a former big shotship aide who is a columnist for The Hill.
Feehery added, "I think Cruz has made a reputation of relentless mendacity ... I think he's a demagogue and I think he'll destroy the party. I think Trump is much more of a blowhard. But there's not really a dime's worth of difference between Trump and Cruz."
As of Wednesday afternoon, Trump sat atop the RealClearPolitics national polling average, with the backing of 29.3 percent of GOP voters, with Cruz in second, at 15.5 percent. Rubio was just behind, with 14.8 percent. In Iowa, where the first caucuses will be held on Feb. 1, Cruz runs much closer, with 22.3 percent average support to Trump's 25.7 percent. Rubio is farther behind in the Hawkeye State than nationally, drawing 13.7 percent backing.
Trump's comments calling for a "shutdown" of Muslims entering the U.S. have been condemned by many Republicans, as well as Democrats and unaligned observers. Included among his critics are Speaker Paul Ryan ...U.S. Representative for Wisconsin's 1st congressional district, serving since 1999. He is a member of the Republican Party. He proposed an alternative to President Obama's 2011 budget and made himself the target of both Democrat and Republican verbal pies... (R-Wis.) and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who both lambasted him on Tuesday. The condemnation of a party's presidential front-runner by that same party's most senior members of Congress is without precedent, at least in modern times.
The opprobrium from on high will not necessarily doom Trump. A Bloomberg Politics poll released Wednesday indicated that 64 percent of likely Republican primary voters supported the idea of temporarily banning Muslims from coming to America.
But Washington Republicans shake their heads at the damage they believe the real estate tycoon is inflicting on the party's image. They are also enraged about his suggestion that he could mount a third-party run if he is not treated in a way that he deems fair during the GOP primary process.
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looks like you will be stuck with Hilary unless you can get Jeb Bush to lead the republicans
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Political establishment, its our game so we play by our rules. Like they said about Kennedy. " Its my football so we play by my rules". This will be a sham election. Like Obama the fix is in.
#5
Well, it's only fair. The Trunks had two Bushes, now the Donks will have two Clintons.
I wish it was sarcasm.
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GOPe abandoned its base and now worries about these two? Bush II and Romney were classical liberals. McCain was about as honest as Hillary, say or do anything to retain power. If you have no base, how can you be an establishment?
#9
If one pays close attention, the progressives will tell you who they fear. It is clear that Trump and Cruz fit that description. If neither receives the nomination the base will stay home and Clinton will win. It will also set the stage for the emergance of a new political party.
#11
I read Cruz's book and he's my favorite in the pack. I sort of loath Rubio and the others in the Senate (except Mike Lee) for the games they went along regarding the debt ceiling.
#12
This is just the tail wagging the dog. They want you to believe that Trump or Cruz can't beat Hillary--that doesn't magically make it so. Hillary is extremely unlikable to a lot of the country. She's not a shoe-in against either of them.
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Actually, I think the "Establishment" is beginning to dimly understand one aspect of trump. For some of us, Trump is not our candidate. He is our murder weapon.
If not Trump, then Gasoline & Matches 2016. Burn it all down.
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I like Cruz, I can live with Trump. Read his book to and liked what I read. The fear is he says what has to be said rather than what he really thinks but he says so much on the fly that that appears unlikely at this point.
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The problem with Trump is not what he says, but what kind of loose cannon / closet liberal / egomaniac narcissist (and haven't we had enough of that already?) he would be in office.
#22
Trump is an outlet.
He is risking his business for this.
I think Americans want a revolution and he seems to be the closet thing to it because both parties are yucky.
Also, he forces the hard conversations to the forefront, the media eats it effortlessly, they misquote and mis-characterize him, he gets more support because we hate our media more than we hate out politicians.
#23
I am not a Trumpalo. I do, however, appreciate how he has destroyed the Donk/MSM/GOPe influence. Every time they try and take him down, he, like Obi-Wan, becomes stronger. People are soooo tired of getting lied to, manipulated, and forced to pick the least-worst. He's not a serious POTUS ...yet. Watch
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If he could only hire the right people. He must prove that and thus far, I don't see genius smartest guys who don't suck behind him.
Does he know whom to bring on to THIS show to get results?
[WASHINGTONPOST] The super PAC supporting Jeb Bush is racing through its massive war chest much faster than money is coming in, spending close to $50 million in a record blitz that has so far failed to lift the former Florida governor's sputtering presidential candidacy.
The group, Right to Rise, has already gone through nearly half of the $103 million it brought in during the first half of the year, records show. It raised only about $13 million in the five months that followed, according to a person familiar with the figure.
That leaves the super PAC with about $67 million heading into the first 2016 GOP nominating contests. The sum still surpasses the resources of rival groups, but it is not clear whether Right to Rise's financial might -- viewed earlier this year as Bush's distinct advantage -- will be enough to help separate him from the pack.
The group's muted impact so far represents a confounding reality of this year's unconventional campaign: Money is no longer a clear barometer of success.
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so far failed to lift the former Florida governor's sputtering presidential candidacy.
and why is that? Could it be that Bush represents all of the negatives that Trump is feeding off? Could it be that Bush comes across as an establishment flunky?
Could it be that the voters think he's lying in the style of Obama?
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His inability to connect with the base is a real mystery, alright...
Of course, it might just be that the base has noticed he's a sock puppet for the crony capitalist Establishment and has the personality of a dead fish.
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It's not going to happen for JEB, as yawls know I am a fan. He was a TLH neighbor for. 8 years and is good smart people. But the times are shifting rapidly and frankly (can I say that) he is poor on the stump and wears his heart on his sleeve. I like Marco, the anti-Bush, hell of a stump speech, good life story, well read on FA, but still untried, VP material. Cruz is unelectable beCause, thin lips and smirkery.
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The lame stream media and talking heads will never get this right. Trump is pulling support from many quarters, Democrats, Conservatives and moderates. Major kick in the pants for DC establishment, Elites in the Republican party and Democratic party. We are seeing a major shift with Trump leading this shift. Take him out will cause a major denial of service to any party or candidate. Perot was a hint of what could happen. He was taken out. Trump plays this game much better. The Art of the Deal in action. Hillary is everything that is wrong with the political establishment. Perhaps the fix is in again. We will see.
#3
The elites of both parties and the liberal media are all getting unhinged and desperate about Trump. The more they attack him, the stronger he gets--and the more the voters begin to think maybe he is should be the candidate. They have no idea of the depths of discontent across the land. Obama has poisoned the well for lying establishment politicians.
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The article takes the point of view that Hillary is the inevitable candidate and winner because of something Trump says. Suppose that's not true. Potential voters seem to be taking the attitude that Trump is an authentic candidate who speaks his mind without what he says being programmed on a teleprompter or scripted by speech writers who are trying to put across party talking points. Moreover, they are fed up with being lied to by sleezy politicians. Romney and McCain didn't do so well as establishment politicians. Let's see how this process unfolds. We need to pick a reasonably good POTUS and not one that fits some preconceived mold of the press or the Beltway Party. In the meantime, the Republican Party needs to cool it and let the candidate emerge from the process. You can be certain the Donks and their propaganda arm, the press are going to beat up on whoever the Pubs put up--the National Republican Party and its leadership should lighten up and relax about Trump. Let the voters decide who will emerge. Often what Trump says turns out to be right.
[POLITICO] A prominent Democratic congresswoman and Senate candidate said Thursday that up to 20 percent of Muslims want to establish an Islamic caliphate and would use "terrorism" to achieve that goal.
Rep. Loretta Sanchez said Muslims seeking a caliphate are willing to use terrorism and violence to impose their views on the Western world.
"We know that there is a small group, and we don't know how big that is -- it can be anywhere between 5 and 20 percent, from the people that I speak to -- that Islam is their religion and who have a desire for a caliphate and to institute that in any way possible," Sanchez said on "PoliticKING with Larry King."
"They are not content enough to have their way of looking at the world, they want to put their way on everybody in the world," she said. "And again, I don't know how big that is, and depending on who you talk to, but they are certainly -- they are willing to go to extremes. They are willing to use and they do use terrorism."
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one of the lowest IQs in congress actually understands it better than 95% of the faculty at Berkeley
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....."We know that there is a small group, and we don't know how big that is -- it can be anywhere between 5 and 20 percent,
What if airliner engine fires averaged "btwn 5 & 20 percent" upon takeoff .......?
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Many on the left and some on the right seem O.K. with supporting the Islamics in their quest. According to them global warming/climate change is the major threat. They are also blaming guns as a threat and not those whose hands they are in such as the crazies, the Islamics and a corrupted government. They want all the guns and they believe then, we will all live in their left-wing socialist utopia. Sounds like a friggin nightmare.
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#1 is right. She's a dipshit. Broken clocks and all that
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Loretta doesn't want any challenges to her people. I'll give her credit for having good survival instincts but I'm afraid she remains a socialist at heart who would turn America into a Third World country, just not a Muslim Third World country.
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Global Communism or Global Caliphate, the future OWG-NWO aka Space Govt-Order than no American = Amerikan has voted for can fergit about going into deep space for trade and colonization, let alone escaping Solar-led GWCC.
Muslim Perts-Clerics themselves have said Islam andor Radical Islam doesn't believe Humanity should leave Earth to explore Space - Humanity perhaps has a better chance wid Communism, but given Communism's histoire wid massive bureacratic entanglements resulting in shoddy products-n-services going into Space is likely going to involve protractively long timelines + too-slow key tech improvements or innovations that won't satisfy many, + may still end up cutting too close to Solar variances for comfort.
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[WASHINGTONPOST] An unrepentant Donald Trump responded Thursday to the backlash in the U.K. over his controversial statements on Muslims by saying that British politicians should be grateful that he has stated "what needed to be said."
