NARAY, Afghanistan - US soldiers and warplanes drove off an insurgent attack on a new American base early Wednesday, killing 19 militants in an area where terrorists rebels are trying to resist a push by coalition troops into remote mountains of eastern Afghanistan. The raid on the US base at Kamdesh in the eastern province of Nuristan -- one of the countrys wildest regions -- was staged by terrorists extremists likely belonging to the Hezb-e-Islami terrorist militant group, who attacked from three directions out of forests using rocket-propelled grenades and small-arms fire, the US military said.
Several hundred soldiers at the base, which lies in a small town but backs onto a sheer mountain face, returned fire with mortars and small arms before jets dropped four 500-pound bombs, ending the clash that lasted more than two hours.
This is the first large, coordinated attack on our base since we arrived three weeks ago, said Lt. Joel Rees, 26, of Memphis, Tennessee. When light broke, we found large crater holes from the RPG attack throughout the base and several tents had bullet holes.
Maj. Tom Sutton, of the 3rd Battalion, 71st Infantry Regiment of the 10th Mountain Division, based in Fort Drum, New York, said at least 19 militants were killed in the battle, the most ferocious he said he had witnessed in the area. A coalition statement said two American soldiers were wounded, but returned to duty after treatment.
It was a very severe attack that indicated that US forces are entering areas where militants had long gone without being attacked, Capt. Charles Schwab, 30, of Tionesta, Pennsylvania, said of the assault in Kamdesh. It shows we are making an impact and forcing the enemy to fight to the death.
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Left their shoes on for the counting, did they?
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#2 Body counts are difficult in dry sections of Central Asia. Why? There are so many flesh eating birds, etc that bodies do not last long.
Not to mention the fact that 500lb bombs don't leave a lot of pieces to be re-assembled.
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LONDON - The operator of key British airports said it had received the green light on Thursday to resume shorthaul flights to and from Londons Heathrow airport after a security alert over a foiled bomb plot. The British Airports Authority (BAA), which runs Heathrow and six other airports, said the restriction imposed in the morning was lifted in the afternoon by Britains National Air Traffic Services. The restriction that was in place has been lifted, a BAA spokeswoman said.
However, British Airways earlier cancelled all its remaining short-haul flights due Thursday between Heathrow and other British and European cities, as well as the Libyan capital Tripoli. The decision was taken because of severe congestion due to heightened security measures, BAA said.
No-frills airline easyJet cancelled all its remaining flights due to depart Thursday from three airports bordering London, comprising Gatwick, Luton and Stansted.
In total, 302 arrival flights and 309 departures were cancelled at Heathrow as of 16:00pm local time (1500 GMT), the BAA spokeswoman added. In an average day, Heathrow has a total of 1,250 flights, inbound and outbound, longhaul and shorthaul, according to BAA statistics. Some 190,000 passengers land or take off from Heathrow each day.
British Airways said in a statement that it expected to operate around 60 percent of its scheduled 400 shorthaul and domestic flights to and from Heathrow on Friday. It said it had cancelled around 400 flights, mainly domestic and shorthaul, from both Heathrow and London Gatwick on Thursday. It flies about 820 flights out of these two airports on a typical August day.
BAA said there were also cancellations and delays at Gatwick Airport, Stansted Airport, Glasgow Airport, Edinburgh Airport and Aberdeen Airport. There were delays also at Southampton Airport, but no cancellations. The spokeswoman added that there were no restrictions on longhaul flights, although passengers should be prepared for long delays.
BA said it expected to operate around 75 percent of its scheduled 150 longhaul flights to and from Heathrow on Friday, meaning that all countries except the United States will be served. It expected to operate around 80 percent of its scheduled 210 shorthaul and domestic flights to and from Gatwick on Friday.
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Three of the alleged ringleaders of the foiled airplane bomb plot have been identified by Western intelligence agencies involved in unraveling the plot. Two of them are believed to have recently traveled to Pakistan and were later in receipt of money wired to them from Pakistan, reportedly to purchase tickets for the suicide bombers.
Sources identify the three, who are now in custody, as:
Every time the terrorists try a new method for murder, the rest of us have new restrictions.
First no fingernail clippers
Then we have to take off our shoes
Now no liquids or electronics
What is going to happen when the terrorists take it to the next level and start surgically implanting IEDs within their bodies???
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Some dork talking on the BBC (admitedly this morning when information was sparse) was talking about full body-cavity searches GO3907, so some people are already thinking of it...
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"talking about full body-cavity searches"
That might cover "up there with the ham sandwich", but what about the NEXT level: Full surgical implantation?
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full body-cavity searches
The 2 Chechen women who blew up Russian airliners were purported to have smuggled the explosive just that way. Or it could be the Russians covering up for shoddy security. Either way, I'm surprised a Mohammedan hasn't tried to blow up a western airliner with just this method.
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"Two of them are believed to have recently traveled to Pakistan and were later in receipt of money wired to them from Pakistan, reportedly to purchase tickets for the suicide bombers."
I wonder if this information was gathered before or after the MSM blew the cover off the $WIFT info tracking program.
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#10 full body-cavity searches...
A stick of dynamite, properly lubricated...very effective, veerrry effective!
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Just saw over on Times Online
That the key element in breaking this plot was provided by - wait for it - Pakistani Intelligence. Now I really wonder if the whole thing is a fake just meant to hassle us.
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Would anyone in Britain be so bold as to propose the restoration of capital punishment for such heinous acts?
Just one newspaper, even a tabloid, to have an editorial calling for hanging for attempted or successful mass murder as a terrorist act. Just to see what the British people have to say about it.
I find it hard to believe that Fleet Street has become so timid.
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These are the names of 19 suspects reportedly being held by the police after the foiled plot and whose assets the Treasury has sought to have frozen.
Umir Hussain, 24, London E14
Muhammed Usman Saddique, 24, London E17
Waheed Zaman, 22, London E17
Assan Abdullah Khan, 22, London E17
Waseem Kayani, 28, High Wycombe
Waheed Arafat Khan, 24, London E17
Cossor Ali, 24, London E17
Tayib Rauf, 21, Birmingham
Ibrahim Savant, 26, London E17
Osman Adam Khatib, 20, London E17
Shamin Mohammed Uddin, 36, Stoke Newington
Amin Asmin Tariq, 23, London E17
Shazad Khuram Ali, 27, High Wycombe
Tanvir Hussain, 24, London E10
Umar Islam, 28, (born Brian Young) High Wycombe
Assad Sarwar, 25, High Wycombe
Abdullah Ali, 26, London E17
Abdul Muneem Patel, 17, London E5
Nabeel Hussain, 21, Waltham Forest
A martyrdom video, apparently recorded by a would-be suicide bomber, was found at one of the raided addresses, government sources said. Some of those detained had been under investigation before for extremist activity
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The days of the Commonwealth certainly set the UK up for a tough time ahead... for all of us.
"ONE suspect arrested yesterday was a British Christian who converted to Islam when his new religion just clicked.
Don Stewart-Whyte, 21, changed his name to Abdul Waheed and grew a bushy beard, said his neighbours.
Last night it was believed he was the son of Doug Stewart-Whyte, a Tory party agent who died nine years ago.
Stewart-Whyte, who recently married, was one of at least four people held in High Wycombe, Bucks, as cops foiled a mass plot to down transatlantic jets.
Others held in the town included a close pal of his and a young lad who had just returned from Pakistan.
One of those arrested in High Wycombe was named last night as convert Umar Islam, 28 who had been formerly known as Brian Young."
Birmingham, 10 August (AKI) - Most of the 21 people arrested overnight in connection with a failed plot to blow up numerous commercial aircraft mid-flight between Britain and the United States are "understood" to be British citizens of Pakistani origin, the local Birmingham Mail daily reported on Thursday. "Sources indicated that the majority if not all of those arrested were British... the majoirty of those arrested were understood to be of Pakistani origin," the Birmingham Mail said. Police have not yet confirmed the identities of any of the suspects arrested and have said they believe other suspects may still be at large.
Most of the bomb plot suspects were arrested in the British capital, London, but some were detained in the central UK city of Birmingham and others in the Thames Valley area in southern Britain, police said. Police searches of homes and business in these areas were reported to be continuing on Thursday.
On 7 July 2005, three British-born youths of Pakistani origin and one Jamaican-born Muslim convert blew themselves up on central London's transport system killing 52 people and injuring 1,000 in co-ordinated blasts. The UK authorities have arrested 1,000 people since 2000 on suspicion of involvement in terrorism. Of those, 154 have been charged and 60 are awaiting trial, Britain's interior minister, John Reid said in a speech on Wednesday. Reid added that the country is facing its most sustained period of threat since World War II.
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I'm shocked and amazed! I would have almost bet the farm that Wiccans were behind this evil plot.
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More than 20 suspected terrorists were arrested in England by early Thursday morning, in an operation that involved British intelligence, Scotland Yard and assistance by a number of other law enforcement and intelligence agencies, including those in Pakistan.
ABC News has learned that two "significant arrests" in Pakistan in recent days may have significantly accelerated the pace of the investigation. Many of the alleged terror plotters appeared to be of Pakistani descent. It appears that they were probably "homegrown" terrorists with strong links to al Qaeda and Pakistani operatives. This new generation of terrorists have figured significantly in plots in the U.S., London and Canada in recent months.
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"Muslims Are Persecuted Victims" Story in 5...4...3...
The arrests related to the terror threat to UK flights stretched across London, High Wycombe in Buckinghamshire and the West Midlands. Twenty-one people are being held in London after raids during the night. Searches are under way at a number of businesses and homes after an "unprecedented" level of surveillance.
Two of those arrested under the Terrorism Act came from the Birmingham area, West Midlands police have said.
Peter Clarke, the head of Scotland Yard's anti-terrorist branch, said the investigation had involved "unprecedented" surveillance and had involved police forces in the UK and internationally. He said it was just the "very early stage" of the evidence-gathering over an alleged plot which had "global dimensions". "We have been looking at meetings, movements, travel, spending and the aspirations of a large group of people."
Houses were sealed off in Belchers Lane, in the Bordesley Green area of Birmingham. Around 20 officers, including forensic teams were at the scene.
A West Midlands Police spokesman said: "This morning two men were arrested under the Terrorism Act in Birmingham. "The arrests were part of a nationwide counter-terrorism operation co-ordinated by the Metropolitan Police Counter-Terrorist Branch." The spokesman said no firearms had been involved and the men were still in custody.
In High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, an address in Walton Drive was among those raided and at least one person was arrested. The majority of arrests were in London, but the location of these has not been specified.
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A major terrorist plot to blow up planes in mid-flight has been disrupted, Scotland Yard has said. It is thought the plan was to detonate explosive devices smuggled on aircraft in hand luggage, with flights from the UK to the US being targeted. During the night, police arrested a number of people in London after a counter-terrorist operation they said had lasted several months. Security at all airports in the UK has been tightened and delays are expected.
Also all airports in the US. The media are now breathlessly reporting on super extra ginormous security line backups at BWI and Dulles. Speculation about this being "overkill" in 5... 4... 3... 2...
Somebody check Daily Kos. Betcha there's at least one post that reads roughly: "You have to question the timing of this, coming as it does on the heels of Lieberman's defeat in Connecticut..."
The Department for Transport set out the details of the security measures at UK airports.
THREAT LEVEL
The current threat level is assessed as critical as of 10th August 2006 - this means that an attack is expected imminently and indicates an extremely high level of threat to the UK
MI5 statement
Passengers will not be allowed to take any hand luggage on to any flights in the UK, the department said.
Only the barest essentials - including passports and wallets - will be allowed to be carried on board in transparent plastic bags.
"We hope that these measures, which are being kept under review by the government, will need to be in place for a limited period only," the statement said.
BBC journalist Joe Lynam encountered the increased security measures at Gatwick airport.
"I was handed a piece of paper saying that pretty much nothing could be taken on board the plane," he said.
"Everything had to be checked in and that includes mobile phones, ipods, wallets - even spectacle cases had to be checked in."
David Learmount from Flight International Magazine said he expected passengers to be searched much more carefully.
He added: "This is the first time this measure has actually been taken. Certainly I've never seen hand luggage banned."
Something else to thank the RoP for.
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Only a matter of time before some Muzzi plot succeeds.
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Probably under nourished, impoverished lads who are simply wanting to be heard
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Ship ALL Muzzies back to their country of origin, quarantine them there. No flights in, no flight out of Muslim land. Let them stew in their own hate.
Cut all economic aid, seize all foreign assets, seize their oil fields. They want the 7th century, then let us impose it on them. We will have to gut these cultures like a catfish, they're truly failed societies.
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The Brits news conference was so politically correct and careful not to offend any group. They did say that most were of Pakistani origins. The West has to get over the tip toeing around and walking on egg shells. We need to quit worrying about hurting some group's feeling that is trying to destroy us. What a crock of sh*t.
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Sometimes I wonder if the plot is actually to blow up the planes, or just to create the threat so as to make air travel even more of a hassle than it already is. The latter scenario has an awfully high 'benefit/cost' ratio (from enemy perspective.)
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AQ has wanted to blow up a number of aircraft in flight, international. The plan has failed on a number of tries, looks like this is the latest. One thing I gotta give them is AQ is persistant. The West must remain vigilant.
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Disruption is disruption whether the planes go down or not. Glenmore, The cost benefit ratio has to be very low and the enemy probably knows this. Rumors and plots don't cost much.
A significant # of British Muslims have said they will not cooperate with the police. A smaller, but also troubling # agree with the aims of al qaeda. I believe part of the reason for this is because a portion of nonmuslim British society creates a fertile environment for this.
There's a strong belief among the useful idiot Left that suicide bombers are desperate; that these people resort to such tactics because they are downtrodden and oppressed. Help me understand how 21 "Brits" from the suburbs are suffering? Here's a clue: they're not. The Left, supported by Galloway, al-guardian, the BBC and others truly fail to see this. Instead, I'm sure they believe they're more savvy than the rest of us. In fact, I'm sure they feel they can see what we're blind to -- that it's Western Imperialism and Israel that has caused all of this turmoil.
But clearly, that's not the case. In fact, their apologist stance provides the fuel that makes this all possible. They've created a culture that excuses, allows -- or worse -- promotes jihadi thinking and actions. Instead of condemning ANY atrocities wherever they occur, they allow Israel and the USA to be scapegoats and implicitly enable these horrors to perpetuate.
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"We are invested on this small island of ours.In London 1 in 3 are non white!"
Even if one thought it was ok to generalize to all muslims from that portion that support this sort of thing, whats the logic to identifying Hindu Indians, Christian West Indians, etc as part of the problem?
BRITISH police foiled a plot to blow up aircraft mid-flight between Britain and the United States in what Washington said might have been an attempted al-Qaeda operation.
We are confident we have disrupted a plan by terrorists to cause untold death and destruction, said London police Deputy Commissioner Paul Stephenson. Put simply, this was intended to be mass murder on an unimaginable scale.
Terrorists had targeted United, American and Continental airlines, two US counter-terrorism officials said.
US Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said: This operation is in some respects suggestive of an al-Qaeda plot, but because the investigation is still under way, we cannot yet form a definitive conclusion. While this operation was centred in Great Britain, it was sophisticated, it had a lot of members and it was international in scope.
While British police sources did not rule out an al-Qaeda link, they played down the idea of direct involvement by the global militant group.
Britain and the United States both stepped up security, causing severe delays at airports following the announcement of the plot, which a police source said was believed to involve a liquid chemical device.
Unconfirmed media reports said anywhere from six to 10 airliners had been targeted in the plot.
The US Department of Homeland Security raised the threat level for passenger aircraft to red, its highest level, for the first time. US authorities banned liquids, including drinks, hair gels and lotions, from US commercial flights.
Britain's security services upped the threat level in the country to critical from severe, the highest of its five ratings, which means an attack is expected imminently.
Interior Minister John Reid said police were confident the main players had been detained in raids overnight. Twenty-one people had been arrested.
The head of London's counter-terrorist police, Peter Clarke, said the plot had global dimensions and Stephenson said British authorities were cooperating with foreign agencies.
The security alert comes 13 months after four British Islamist suicide bombers killed 52 people and injured about 700 on London's transport network.
Authorities declined to give the nationalities of those arrested. A police source said some were British.
Arrests were made in the capital London, the southeast of England and Britain's second biggest city Birmingham.
Last month, al-Qaeda called on Muslims to fight those who backed Israel's attacks on Lebanon and warned of more attacks unless US and British forces pulled out of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Al-Qaeda hijacked passenger aircraft in September 2001 to destroy the World Trade Centre in New York, and Briton Richard Reid was arrested in December 2001 for trying to blow up a plane headed to the United States.
This liquid explosive type of attack is particularly worrying. Planes remain vulnerable and in the coming weeks terrorists will be thinking of something else to do that we have no idea about, Peter Neumann, director of the Centre for Defence Studies at London's King's College university, said.
If this had worked out it would have been beyond any doubt the biggest terrorist plot in the UK.
The British Airports Authority BAA said it had asked all European carriers to suspend flights to London's main Heathrow airport, where tighter security measures caused severe delays.
Airlines said no hand baggage would be let on planes leaving British airports, banning electrical or battery powered items. Passengers had to hand over all liquids, including contact lens solutions, on flights to the United States.
The plot appeared similar to a 1995 plan to blow up 11 planes using nitroglycerine mixed in contact lens solution and a battery-powered detonator.
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Question. I know it would be satisfying to have the authorities say these were Muslim males between 16-and-32 or whatever but does it really make a difference? Do you think there is a single person in the Western world that doesn't think that anyway when these reports come out. Yeah the multi-cultural filters might apply on some so they would never say it out loud but I'm pretty sure the non-retarded folk out there have sensed the pattern long ago and I hope the authorities do some behavioral profiling to match even if they are very careful about it and grab little old white ladies from time to time for cover.
I would go so far as to say it might be advantageious for two reasons: (1) It provides the Islamic nuts a false sense of security. They are not gonna change their minds either way, they are nuts, but if they have a false sense of security they might be sloppy and easier to catch (2) It may keep some of the silent majority of Muslims on our side. Someone is reporting these guys from time to time. Perhaps its not spoken of (for fear of their lives no doubt) but I think there are a few Muslims out there ratting out the nut-balls so the authorities know who to intercept. If you start labelling all Muslims you might lose some of those folks or even drive them into the arms of the nutbags.
And lastly I'm a hopelessly optimistic fellow, I realize that. Hopelessly optimistic until proven wrong and then I'm all for the Carthage solution.
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Henceforth all airline passengers shall only fly drugged and naked. Please specify your drug of choice one week in advance. Please have respect and sympathy for our screeners - their job was already hard enough without having to look at most of you naked.
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ScrappleFace:
UK Panel Asks: Why Do They Hate Airplanes?
by Scott Ott
(2006-08-10) â The British Parliament, in a rapid response to a terror plot foiled by Scotland Yard yesterday, announced formation of a study panel today to determine why some Muslims hate airplanes.
Early reports indicate 21 men have been taken into custody in connection with a plan to take down an unknown number of U.S.-bound passenger jets originating in Great Britain.
The expert panel will examine various theories about why airplanes engender such hatred among devoted followers of a peaceful religion.
âIs it the horrendous noise? The speed? The condensation trails?â said one unnamed source close to the panel, listing some of the areas of inquiry the experts plan to pursue. âBecause if itâs any of those things, we can get to work on engineering changes to make airplanes more tolerable to our Muslim brothers.â
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They can for a few thousand, cost us millions. We need to start doing things to them that cost them millions. They are going to do things that run the price of oil to us up to over $100.00. That's thier goal. So as someone else said on this site said, just blow up Iran's oil terminals, and don't let them fix them. If oil goes to $100.00 , at least they won't be able to profit from it. They won't have any money to give to terrorist either.
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Of coures right on queue the moonbats at DU are writhing and gnashing teeth over Chimpy McBushhitlerburton's most recent plot to spread fear and disinformation to keep the sheeple in line.
No need for a link, just go to DU and choose any of several topics in the general forum.
#43
Well, the interrogation methods of the British authorities are more, ummmm, errrr, "primitive" in these cases. One hopes these 21 will be "aided" in spilling the beans on the other 2100 who must have been involved.
"Don't worry, at least you will save money on manicures..." Or, "Didn't you always want to be over 6-feet tall, just like your hero Osama?"
Heh heh heh
Besides we still have 8 Egyptian "students" to locate here in the USA! There is coincidental timing...
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When the civilized world is or is perceived as weak, the Islamists will keep probing. We do not have enough treasure to protect ourselves against the terrorists, from a defensive point of view.
One goal of the terrorists is to bankrupt the civilized world through some act of terrorism in a key place, like air transportation. They are continually probing, just like cancer.
Bottom line, the civilized world will not end the terrorist threat until it goes on the offensive. That means taking out Hizb'Alla, neutralizing Syria, eliminating the MMs of Iran and Dinner Jacket, Saudi Prince financiers, Binny's Boyz in Wazoo, Tater, et al.
If the civilized world does not grasp this basic truth, then the terrorists WILL succeed in some big show in the near future. And then, Wrechard's Three Conjectures will kick in.
The UK is greatly infiltrated with Islamic Terrorists, the US has them, too, only not as much. Both governments do not have the leadership needed to face the threats. That has to change, or we will lose this WoT.
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The UK is greatly infiltrated with Islamic Terrorists, the US has them, too, only not as much. Both governments do not have the leadership needed to face the threats. That has to change, or we will lose this WoT.
I think the sober governments in the MidEast, even the ones who facilitate some nonsense, are scared to s**t of something like this. If something bad were to happen? Can you say President Tom "Bomb Mecca" Tancredo???
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plainslow, a better plan is to build a bunch of nuclear reactors to take the power-grid off of oil dependency then push for bio-diesel hybrids to take the SUVs and small cars off of oil dependency. The one-two-punch would collapse the price of oil if we did it properly.
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These politically minded bombers feel that a successful incident would cause England to go spainish. When perhaps it will happen anyway after gutsy Tony Blair is out of power,
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rjschwarz- If you could do it fast enough, I agree. Your solution would also hurt Chavez. Just don't think we can do it quick enough. But we should start anyway.
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Word from Dale Dye on KFI this morning that British source says plan was to explode only after planes reache CONUS. What about August 22nd? Can't these people get their party plans coordinated?
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Nimble, that's good news because it means less nuke plants need to be built to get the thing rolling.
Fact is a regular diesel engine can run on biodiesel without much modification and SUVs being truck like beasts would work well on diesel if they weren't designed to avoid government restrictions on trucks. The gov should tinker with some rules to push for diesel engine SUVs with a hint and a nod to include engine warmers for the day biodiesel comes. With that in place we could then switch over the fuel at any time we have enough.
I think it wouldn't be long before some enterprising startup started collecting used grease from the fast food places and cleaning it up enough to mix with diesel in any case.
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They've started selling biodiesel here in my neighborhood, but I don't know if that's going to be price competitive in the long run. It comes from soy beans, not used grease.
The day, according to She - it muslims, the world will end?
If nothing happens, we should all collect on street corners and laugh as hard as we can at the stupid belief and the stupid believers. Laugh so loud and hard it makes the world news. Let dinner jacket know what we think.
If something does happen, we should nuke Iran in response.
Besoeker, I'll opt for the more appropriate verb ... LIQUIDATE.
Bottom line, the civilized world will not end the terrorist threat until it goes on the offensive. That means taking out Hizb'Alla, neutralizing Syria, eliminating the MMs of Iran and Dinner Jacket, Saudi Prince financiers, Binny's Boyz in Wazoo, Tater, et al.
If the civilized world does not grasp this basic truth, then the terrorists WILL succeed in some big show in the near future. And then, Wrechard's Three Conjectures will kick in.
Word, Alaska Paul. I'm so pissed off right now that I'm beginning to look forward to that day. And remember, I subscribe to the motto of:
Better pissed off than pissed on.
How many people will lose their jobs from whatever brief tourism downturn this causes? How many lives will be ruined? How much more lost productivity will there be due to increased security measures? How many hours of precious vacation time for honest over-stressed and overworked employees will be shot to he||? How much more loss of shareholder value will happen in the affected airlines and associated industries? HOW MANY EXTRA MILLIONS OR BILLIONS OF DOLLARS is this latest round of economic mayhem going to cost the civilized world?
We need to start doing things to them that cost them millions.
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Question. I know it would be satisfying to have the authorities say these were Muslim males between 16-and-32 or whatever but does it really make a difference?
You're DAMN right it does. They should be on every TV channel, and in every newspaper, every day, reminding us that MUSLIMS attacked on 9/11, MUSLIMS are fighting Israel, MUSLIMS are behind nearly every terrorist attack in the world for the last several years, and that MUSLIMS want to create a world Islamic state. Words have meaning, and words have power. Constantly reminding the civilized world who these scumbags are can only help wake up some who are sleeping. It may not convince the moonbats (nothing would) but if it changes the thinking of a few fence sitters, it would be well worth it.
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I agree: it's very important to tell people, again and again, that those terrorists are Muslims.
In France, since this plot was revealed this morning (French time), most of the media have not said that those terrorists are MUSLIMS, but, rather, have insisted they are "not yet known" or "probably British citizens", and so on.
Bad naming things is adding misfortune to the world.
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They've started selling biodiesel here in my neighborhood, but I don't know if that's going to be price competitive in the long run. It comes from soy beans, not used grease.
The kind they sell in your neighborhood might be from soy, it might get better gas mileage or have other advantages, but there are biodiesel vehicles running on used grease as we speak. veggie van and I think its better since we're getting dual use out of it.
The time approaches when an array of profiling, from country of origin, nationality, etc., must become standard procedure for denying access to travel, border crossing, visas, etc. - for access to the West.
Pariah status should be initiated and imposed upon Iran, Pakistan, Yemen, Indonesia, Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Syria, et al.
Shut them out of the system. No more flights originating from or stopping in any of those countries where Islam is endemic and accepted. No more of their nationals allowed access to the West. They can LEAVE, but they may not ENTER.
Forever.
Extradition of the cancerous lumps of non-assimilating "immigrants" should be planned and executed concurrently.
The total isolation of Islam's insanity can and should begin ASAP.
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Friggnin Islamonuts. I am seriously hacked off. Finally Bush calls them Islamic facists, but concurrently gets the Israelis to stop their push into Lebanon. I don't get it! When are we going to get serious about this. How many people are going to have to die before we start to fight like there is a real war on?
And this, I think, is what most of us here know viscerally.
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It isn't OUR last hope, it is THEIRS.
Word, flyover. Now, when is someone going to tattoo this on the forehead of every Muslim leader? Never have I seen a creed rush in such a headlong fashion towards obliteration.
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#72 Tony (UK): "Some people in the West will lose their souls (Daily Kos, DU, etc), but who cares about them?"
Don't you have to have something first in order to lose it, Tony?
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websites www.dailykos.com and www.democraticunderground.com
wash up with antibiotic soap after visiting
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Daily Kos and Democratic Underground are loony websites, leroidavid.
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Frank G, I just went to Daily Kos and DU, and used afterwards the antibiotic soap you advised.
But, you know, what I have read on those loony websites (as said Jules in the Hinterlands) is what I hear all day long here, in Paris. I am using a lot of bottles of antibiotic soap from morning to evening...
For example, this Thursday, at 7:30 PM, on a French radio that is supposed to be right leaning (RTL), I heard 3 "famous" small French journalists saying, in less than 2 minutes:
- Bin Laden was funded by the US;
- Bin Laden is a CIA employee;
- Israel created the Hezbollah;
- Sharon created the Hamas.
- Fighting terrorism creates terrorists.
They all agreed, and the anchorman too.
This kind of delirium is, in France, common wisdom.
The newspapers, here, are filled with anti-Israeli caricatures so hateful that they are clearly anti-Jewish. For example, the newspaper of the French parisian intelligentsia (Le Monde) published (on August the 2nd) a caricature showing a gigantic nazi boot marked with a David star and crushing Arab bloodstained women and children on the ground. Open any major French newspaper, and you'll see such rubbish.
It's not antibiotic soap we need here to clean this garbage: it's the strongest insecticide.
Uzbek authorities said Thursday they arrested two Kazakh citizens who possessed extremist literature of a banned Islamic group. The Uzbek Customs Committee said on a government-run Web site that the two had been traveling on a train in western Uzbekistan and had books, magazines and leaflets propagating ideas of the banned radical group Hizb-ut-Tahrir. The committee said they also had DVDs in Arabic, Uzbek and Kazakh that contained extremist propaganda.
One man died and 13 people were injured after a series of blasts ripped through a home of a local prosecutor in Nazran, Ingushetia, in the early hours of Thursday morning, the RIA-Novosti news agency reports. The prosecutor himself was not hurt in the attack, but his brother Adam was killed, the republican Interior Ministry said. According to preliminary information, the criminals planted two explosive devices by the house where the prosecutor of Nazran District, Gerikhan Khazbiyev, lives, the source in the ministry told the agency.
Russia TV said in a morning news bulletin that as many as 13 people were injured in the blast. Investigation into the attack has been launched. The blasts had apparently been triggered by two hand-made explosive devices planted near the house, a Rossia TV correspondent said. Investigators believe that the terrorists threw four more hand grenades across the fence into the interior yard.
The victims are mainly Khazbiyevs neighbors. After the first explosion, people went out into the street to see what was happening, and at that moment, witnesses say, another bomb went off. Interior Ministry officers and investigators from the prosecutors office are working at the scene.
The first Australian accused of training with a terrorist organisation on Wednesday lost his latest bid to have the charges against him dropped.
The applicant's argument that the Commonwealth Parliament has no power to enact legislation proscribing the killing of foreign citizens by members of a foreign organisation on foreign territory must be rejected by this court...
Pakistan-born medical student Izharul Haq was charged with intentionally receiving combat and weapons training from Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) in Pakistan in 2003, a militant group banned under Australia's counter-terrorism laws.
On Wednesday, Izhar lost an appeal before the New South Wales state Court of Criminal Appeal seeking to overturn the charge. He argued that Australia had no authority to pass laws concerning criminal acts committed overseas. "The applicant's argument that the Commonwealth Parliament has no power to enact legislation proscribing the killing of foreign citizens by members of a foreign organisation on foreign territory must be rejected by this court," Justice McClellan said in the court's unanimous 3-0 judgment. "If it is to be reconsidered this must be done in the High Court." A trial date for Izhar will be fixed on Sept 1, but he could still seek leave to appeal this decision in the High Court, Australia's highest judicial body.
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How does one "accidentally" receive combat and weapons training? Is this legal-speak?
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Let the little ba$$$$$ have a "RAB encounter", and get on with living, Aussie mates. He's not worth the trouble or expense you're going to on his behalf. Then charge Pakiwackiland for housing, feeding, and in the end, shooting him.
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Yano Bruce! I gave him the hat with the corks, introduced him to the sheilas, but hed rather run around with his cousins firing his grandpa's AK into the air, than surf or eat prawns.
Yeah steve inow, forighners mate, tisk.
President Bush said on Thursday a plot foiled by Britain to blow up flights to the United States was a "stark reminder" that the United States is "at war with Islamic fascists."
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U.N. Cease Fire Draft: Embargo on Hizbullah But No Disarmament
21:14 Aug 10, '06 / 16 Av 5766
(IsraelNN.com) A revised draft for a United Nations Security Council resolution calls for an embargo on arms for Hizbullah terrorists but does not provide for disarming them, according to an Israeli government source.
The new draft also calls for an effective international force to patrol southern Lebanon. United States State Department Middle East envoy Robert Welch is in Jerusalem and has met with government officials on the revised draft drawn up by France and the United States
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Is this the first time he's said it? I heard him on the radio and he was halting, like he knew if he said it he was going to get creamed. But at least he said it.
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An effective international force to patrol southern Lebanon, ya say? One is crazier 'n a sh*thouse rat to bite that bait again. Hizb'Allah does not need to be disarmed. It needs to be destroyed, and everyone of its members needs a dirt nap. The UN never protected anybody, gonna bet yer life on the UN? Hopefully this cease fire crap is a stalling tactic to let the IDF get its job done. Though I worry that Omert and Co. believe this cease fire crap. This is the beginning of total war.
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Hopefully this cease fire crap is a stalling tactic Posted by Alaska Paul 2006-08-10 15:05|| Front Page|| ||Comments Top
"Cease fire crap"....aka strategic pause. Takes time to low-boy all those D9 Cats and bring them forward.
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Thank goodness he has finally identified the enemy. Right after 9/11 every time he would say "war on terror" I would cringe. We are not good at wars that don't have a defined enemy (war on poverty, war on drugs, etc.) Perhaps now we can better focus our efforts. For starters we can stop patting down grandma at the airport. And leave the retarded child in a wheelchair alone. Profile for the enemy please.
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Why, oh why, are these incremental escalations in identifying Islamism as being Nazi-like in its pursuit of Global Cultural Genocide taking so ridiculously long? The current administration has a very limited time in which to establish its case with sufficiently convincing terms whereby the American public will comprehend why it is so important to neutralize Iran and continue exterminating terrorists wherever they are found.
If the executive branch could just bring themselves to abandon such misdirectional twaddle as the supposed issues of gay marriage and flag burning they would retain a lot more credibility and moral capital to be used in the truly vital fight against terrorism.
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Agree, Zen; but that only shows how out of touch with the mainstream we are. Remember, Kerry almost won.
Bush is in as difficult a position as FDR in 1940. To a certain extent that is due to the government's success in preventing another 9/11. Even today's events will go into the memory hole within a week. And the MSM is out to make him the enemy, not the Islamo-fascists. Bush could talk about this every other day, but the MSM would not cover it and if they did, it would be contemptuously.
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The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini personally recruited the "Handzar [Scimitar] Division" of the Nazi's Waffen SS.
On Mar. 19, 1942, the ex-Mufti of Jerusalem spoke to the Arab world by Rome radio and said: If, God forbid, America and her allies are victorious in this war . . . then the world will become hell, God forbid. But Allah is too just and merciful to grant such murderous violators any victory.
To a certain extent that is due to the government's success in preventing another 9/11.
How is it possible for the American public to indulge itself in any sort of complacency when the dire threat of something like a nuclear-armed Iran still looms on the horizon?
I realize that typical American trans-oceanic awareness usually extends about as far as Hawaii, but as I mentioned before, this administration should be shouting to the rafters about Iran, its pursuit of atomic weapons and their intimate ties to Hezbollah, Hamas, al Qaeda and international terrorism. The MSM be d@mned, our government has enough other channels outside of primetime news whereby it can bring these issues in front of the American public.
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How can Bush says that "this nation is at war with Islamic fascists who will use any means to destroy those of us who love freedom, to hurt our nation", and at the same time, put pressure on Israel to delay its offensive, and plan an awful deal at the UN rewarding the Islamic fascists of the Hezbollah ?
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How can Bush says that "this nation is at war with Islamic fascists who will use any means to destroy those of us who love freedom, to hurt our nation", and at the same time, put pressure on Israel to delay its offensive, and plan an awful deal at the UN rewarding the Islamic fascists of the Hezbollah ?
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"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
~ Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and Luftwaffe Commander in Chief
This is what the Looney Liberal Left are accusing the Bush administration of doing. The absolutely do not believe we are in a fight for the survival of our way of life. To them it's just a Rovian Plot. Just look at the comments at DU on the break-up of the recent potential airliner bombers in England. The will not face reality, it scares them too much. They'd rather believe in a fantasy.
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comin' up on FIVE YEARS since 9/11...and we FINALLY get the CinC to call a spade a spade an Islamic Fascist and Islamic Fascist!
#25
FINALLY get the CinC to call a spade a spade an Islamic Fascist and Islamic Fascist!
oh well...it DOES represent progress!!! *sigh*
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* Note to self: Dust off GWB framed picture in family room tonight.
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I hope we don't get forced into a civil war as an interlude in world war III.
Bush does need to pound on this everyday and outside the normal MSM channels as well. The entire government and people should be mobilized.
Should be mobilized but we are not.
The Democrat party is complicit with the islamofascists. What you read from DU and KOS is the current leadership position of the Democrat party. According to them there is no conflict or struggle. It's invented out of whole cloth. If we treat them nice they will leave us alone.
What can one do against such ignorance much of it willful?
Bush needs to get his goofy ass together and hammer on this issue every day, over and over with conviction and the government needs to follow suit. The Republican party is failing on this issue, utterly failing by playing the MSM and Democrats games and not their own.
Islamic Fascists are the problem. Wiping them off the face of the earth is the only solution.
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Bush needs to get his goofy ass together and hammer on this issue every day, over and over with conviction and the government needs to follow suit. The Republican party is failing on this issue, utterly failing by playing the MSM and Democrats games and not their own.
Islamic Fascists are the problem. Wiping them off the face of the earth is the only solution.
#28
Islamofacism and dealing with it is the number one danger and problem faced by the U.S. The rest of the issues such as flag burning, gay marriage, cut and run, etc. are just sideshows that dilute our efforts in this very dangerous war. We need to match the singularity of purpose of the islamofacists with the same kind of singularity of purpose--that is the destruction of those who are trying to destroy us.
"Many American Muslims, who say they have felt singled out for discrimination since the September 11 attacks, reject the term and say it unfairly links their faith to notions of dictatorship, oppression and racism."
It WAS unfair!! They should have been linked to misogynism too!! And that's just for starters.
#30
The President used the term "Islamofascist" during his October 6, 2005 speech to the National Endowment for Democracy (according to Wikipedia, and I saw and heard the relevant excerpt).
#31
Here is the excerpt of Bush's speech to the National Endowment for Democracy:
The images and experience of September the 11th are unique for Americans. Yet the evil of that morning has reappeared on other days, in other places -- in Mombasa, and Casablanca, and Riyadh, and Jakarta, and Istanbul, and Madrid, and Beslan, and Taba, and Netanya, and Baghdad, and elsewhere. In the past few months, we've seen a new terror offensive with attacks on London, and Sharm el-Sheikh, and a deadly bombing in Bali once again. All these separate images of destruction and suffering that we see on the news can seem like random and isolated acts of madness; innocent men and women and children have died simply because they boarded the wrong train, or worked in the wrong building, or checked into the wrong hotel. Yet while the killers choose their victims indiscriminately, their attacks serve a clear and focused ideology, a set of beliefs and goals that are evil, but not insane.
Some call this evil Islamic radicalism; others, militant Jihadism; still others, Islamo-fascism. Whatever it's called, this ideology is very different from the religion of Islam. This form of radicalism exploits Islam to serve a violent, political vision: the establishment, by terrorism and subversion and insurgency, of a totalitarian empire that denies all political and religious freedom. These extremists distort the idea of jihad into a call for terrorist murder against Christians and Jews and Hindus -- and also against Muslims from other traditions, who they regard as heretics.
This speech was good in many aspects, but is nevertheless truffled with some PC ideas:
These extremists distort the idea of jihad into a call for terrorist murder against Christians and Jews and Hindus
In fact, the very idea of jihad is the extermination of all non-Muslims.
National Cathedral Speech, President Bush, Sept. 14, 2001
...Just three days removed from these events, Americans do not yet have the distance of history, but our responsibility to history is already clear: to answer these attacks and rid the world of evil.
War has been waged against us by stealth and deceit and murder.
This nation is peaceful, but fierce when stirred to anger. This conflict was begun on the timing and terms of others; it will end in a way and at an hour of our choosing.
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I always thought that remark was cryptic. "hour of our choosing." When?
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I'm sort of begining to be somewhat concerned about 8-22-06. And I don't really know why.
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RJB, I'm just sorta gettin concerned. I sure hope that this is Bush the poker player we are seeing here. I'm not seeing the strength we need to take on Iraq and solve it, I'm seeing the administration put the brakes on the Israelis, I'm seeing us cozy up to the French in a big way and I'm seeing (ok, not surprise here), Mike Wallace get on his knees - he actually may have had to do it lying down - wrapping his lips around Dinner Jacket's wiener. What the hell??!! We almost saw about 4,000 people killed. When are we going to get serious and put a stop to this shit.
KCBS' Mike Colgan reported that Muslims say they're worried and offended by President Bush's characterization of those arrested in London's alleged airline terror plot as "Islamic fascists."
"The name of Islam itself is something that is dear to every Muslim because it signifies the peaceful religion itself and whenever someone tries to link the word Islam with something as horrific as the word fascism, it is extremely offensive to all Muslims," Akloush said.
Don't cave on this, GW. No matter how much seething they do, don't cave...
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remoteman:
You are not seeing everything. If Ahmadinejad is heard threatening the life of the US President on national television, there will be consequences at the "hour of our choosing." And that clock is ticking.
When was the last time a Buddhist flew an aircraft into a building for his religion?
When was the last time a Hindu hijacked an aircraft for his religion?
When was the last time a Lutheran/Methodist/Baptist/Catholic/Presbyterian slaughtered schoolchildren and their parents to promote their religion?
When was the last time Wiccans exploded a suicide bomb in a crowded market for religious purposes?
When was the last time Shinto worshipers machine-gunned down people from a passing car because it was acceptable to their religion?
When was the last time animists drove a VBIED into a religious gathering because it wasn't THEIR religion?
Only one religion does these things. Only Islam believes killing innocents is acceptable behavior. Islam needs to be treated for what it is - a pathological suicide cult that needs to be restricted to a few sandy wastes. The sooner the better.
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OP - that's profiling
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CAIR will be in contact shortly...
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#43: "OP - that's profiling"
Damn straight it is - and we need more of it.
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New York police reported a major outage of cellular phone service in the borough of Queens on Thursday.
"It's just an FYI. It has nothing to do with anything else. It's not criminal," a police spokesman said.
Two of New York's major airports -- JFK and LaGuardia -- are in the borough of Queens. Airport security was intensified after British police said they had foiled a plot to blow up several aircraft flying between Britain and the United States.
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Chuck: it occurs to me that an EA-6B or equivalent could probably do it.
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Chuck: it occurs to me that an EA-6B or equivalent could probably do it.
They don't call it "The Christmas Tree" for nothing. An old sweetheart of mine used to work at Addington Laboratories before they were gobbled up by Eaton. The EA-6B can illuminate just about every portion of the non-ionizing electromagnetic spectrum you would care to name.
WASHINGTON The U.S. government issued its highest terrorism alert ever for commercial flights from Britain to the United States early Thursday after a terror plot was disrupted in London, with a specific concern for tourist-filled flights to major U.S. cities. Terrorists had targeted United, American and Continental airlines, two U.S. counterterrorism officials said.
"The plot was to board international flights, potentially headed to the U.S., with bombs fashioned in a way that they would be in carry-ons, and blow them up in midair," one intelligence official said. This official said the terrorists had hoped to target flights to major airports in New York, Washington and California, all major summer tourist destinations.
In addition to the highest alert for flights from Britain, the alert for all flights coming or going from the United States was also raised slightly, to orange. The government banned beverages, hair gels and lotions from flights, explaining only that liquids emerged as an explosive risk from the investigation in Britain. Hastily printed signs were posted at major airports warning passengers in red capital letters, "No liquid or gels permitted beyond security."
Multiple flights to multiple American cities were put on alert. Specifically, these airlines included United Airlines, American Airlines and Continental Airlines Inc., the two counterterrorism officials said. American and United flights were turned into terrorist weapons on Sept. 11, 2001, when they were hijacked and crashed.
It is the first time the red alert level in the Homeland Security warning system has been invoked, although there have been brief periods in the past when the orange level was applied. Homeland Security defines the red alert as designating a "severe risk of terrorist attacks." One intelligence official said the first-ever red alert signaled extreme concern within the government. "We are concerned enough to put the highest wall up we can," this official said. Officials said the government has been aware of the nature of the threat for several days, and President Bush was fully briefed.
Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff issued a statement overnight.
"We believe that these arrests (in London) have significantly disrupted the threat, but we cannot be sure that the threat has been entirely eliminated or the plot completely thwarted," Chertoff said in announcing that the threat level for flights from Britain to the United States has been raised to the highest "severe or red" level. A statement issued by Chertoff said "currently, there is no indication ... of plotting within the United States."
A U.S. law enforcement official said there have been no arrests in the United States connected to the plot. A senior U.S. counterterrorism official said authorities believe dozens of people were involved or connected to the overseas plot that was unraveled Wednesday evening. The plan "had a footprint to al-Qaida back to it," said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation.
It was not believed to be connected to the Egyptian students who disappeared in the United States more than a week ago before reaching a college they were supposed to attend in Montana. Three of the 11 have since been found and the FBI has said neither they nor the still-missing eight are believed to be a threat.
The plan involved airline passengers hiding masked explosives in carry-on luggage, the official said. "They were not yet sitting on an airplane," but were very close to traveling, the official said, calling the plot "the real deal." U.S. intelligence has been working closely with the British on the investigation, which has been ongoing for months, the second official said.
The metal detector and X-ray machines at airport security checkpoints cannot detect explosives. At many, but not all airport checkpoints, the TSA has deployed walkthrough "sniffer" or "puffer" machines that can detect explosives residue. As part of the foiled Bojinka Plot to blow up 12 Western airliners simultaneously over the Pacific Ocean in the mid-1990s, terrorist mastermind Ramzi Youssef planned to put together an improvised bomb using liquid in a contact lens solution container.
Likely one of those pint bottles.
At U.S. Northern Command, the military headquarters established in response to the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to improve coordination of the defense of U.S. territory, spokesman Sean Kelly said it would be inappropriate to discuss military operations.
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I wonder how long it will take for the New York Times to step up with an article that will aid the terrorists in their future efforts.
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Carry-ons are no longer permitted on domestic or overseas flights, but small children weighing less that 35lbs are now permitted in the overheads. Thank you for flying Delta Airlines.
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Romney said the Guard would begin arriving at the airport immediately to help with patrols, and then, after training, to help with surveillance and checkpoint assignments -- particularly secondary screenings at departure gates to ensure passengers did not buy any liquids such as coffee or shampoo after a checkpoint and then attempt to bring them on aircraft.
Looks like Starbucks will be out of business at Logan...what a bunch of Maroons! "Intellegent official" indeed.
Everyone has heard of the Homeland Security Advisory System by now and its rainbow of colors, but most are confused of exactly what it means to them about how they should act and live when it is at its different levels of alert. That's why I've decided to create this guide make things clearer to the people.
First, here is what the alert levels mean in general:
*Green (Low): All evil had been destroyed. The world is now a peaceful utopia.
*Blue (Guarded): There's still the occasional pickpocket, so show a little caution.
*Yellow (Elevated): Terror lurks in the shadows; be wary.
*Orange (High): The terrorists are out there and they are coming for YOU!
*Red (Severe): The world is exploding around you. The only law is your own gun.
To be more specific, here is how you should you act in different situations based on the alert levels.
How should I store my firearms?
*Green: Throw them in the fire. There is no more need for weapons.
*Blue: Wrap them in some rags and store them in the attic somewhere in case you need them one day.
*Yellow: Keep both your guns and ammo readily accessible.
*Orange: Load your gun and carry it on you at all times, even around the house.
*Red: The gun should be in your hand, pointed in front of you with your finger resting on the trigger.
I see a stranger outside.
*Green: Maybe he could give your kids a ride to school.
*Blue: He might be lost; ask him what he's doing here.
*Yellow: Stay in your house and avoid him. Strangers bad.
*Orange: Run outside and pistol-whip him while questioning his involvement with terrorism.
*Red: Kill him; no questions asked.
I hear a noise at night.
*Green: That's just the house settling; go back to sleep.
*Blue: Probably nothing, but you better check it out.
*Yellow: Grab your gun and call 911.
*Orange: No time for police; run through your house shooting anything that moves.
*Red: Initiate the house's auto-destruct sequence; leap out window.
You see a hippy.
*Green: Punch him.
*Blue: Kick him.
*Yellow: Punch him then kick him.
*Orange: Punch him then kick him and then stomp on him.
*Red: Strangle him.
You receive a strange envelope in the mail with no return address.
*Green: Rip it open; who knows what fun lies inside!
*Blue: Open it carefully just in case.
*Yellow: Don't touch it and call the police.
*Orange: Can't wait for the authorities; toss it out the window and then unload a gun into it.
*Red: For the love of God, immediately flee from the envelope. Hunt down and kill the mailman.
You see some movement in a nearby tree.
*Green: It's probably a squirrel. Hello squirrel.
*Blue: Better check out what it is to be on the safe side.
*Yellow: Might be the escaped monkey from the zoo. Better contact the authorities.
*Orange: It's a ninja! Fire indiscriminately into the treetops.
*Red: Set fire to the tree and all trees around it. No safe haven for ninjas!
You see a strange van parked nearby.
*Green: It must be an ice cream truck. Let's get ice cream.
*Blue: Check to make sure it's legally parked.
*Yellow: Better call the FBI to check this one out.
*Orange: Politely knock on the van door. Kill everyone inside.
*Red: Shoot the van with a rocket propelled grenade. Kill anyone who protests; they're terrorists too.
You realize the person you are talking to is a Communist.
*Green: Kill him.
*Blue: Kill him.
*Yellow: Kill him.
*Orange: Kill him.
*Red: Kill him and burn his body.
You see a stray dog.
*Green: Go pet the cute little puppy.
*Blue: Better check if he has a dog tag so you can get him back to his owner.
*Yellow: Call animal control.
*Orange: It's some sort of terrorist trick. Shoot the dog with a sniper rifle.
*Red: Destroy the dog with a thermite charge and then kill all witnesses.
I hope that cleared things up on the alert levels. Remember, terrorism can only be stopped by your vigilance and your actions.
Three Egyptian students who were being sought for failing to turn up for an exchange program at Montana State University were taken into custody Wednesday, more than a week after they arrived in the United States. One student was arrested in Minnesota, and two others surrendered to authorities in New Jersey. They were among 11 students being sought by law enforcement after they failed to attend a monthlong program on the English language and U.S. history and culture in Bozeman, Mont., the FBI said.
Eslam Ibrahim Mohamed El-Dessouki, 21, was taken into custody in Minneapolis on an immigration violation. Two other students - Mohamed Ragab Mohamed Abd Alla and Ebrahim Mabrouk Moustafa Abdou, both 22 - surrendered to police in Manville, N.J., after hearing media reports that they were wanted, FBI spokesman Steven Siegal said.
Eight students remain at large. They arrived in New York on July 29 as part of a group of 17 students. Six students reported to Bozeman on time.
Hamvi Kassab, a Minneapolis grocer who said he is El-Dessouki's uncle, told television station KSTP that his nephew was in town to visit relatives and to inquire about attending the University of Minnesota.
Which had nothing to do with going to Montana. Care to provide us another alibi, Uncle?
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Hamvi Kassab, a Minneapolis grocer who said he is El-Dessouki's uncle, told television station KSTP that his nephew was in town to visit relatives and to inquire about attending the University of Minnesota. And what else was he doing here? Come on, come clean. Are you certain he wasn't here to take flying lessons?
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What the hell are 22 yr old males doing studying english in the US? Isn't 22 yr olds getting out of shcool at this time (except for the professional students - pass the bong dude). Is it just me, or does this not scream why are 20, 21 and 22 year old men doing in our country "studying"?
#8
Any Islamic MAM (Military Age Male) should be closley scrutinized before entry and forced to wear a monitoring device during his hopefully very brief stay.
1. IBRAHIM, EL SAYED AHMED ELSAYED;
DOB OF 4/29/1986, PASSPORT 954757
2. EL DESSOUKI, ESLAM IBRAHIM MOHAMED;
DOB OF 02/21/1985, PASSPORT 1002756
3. EL BAHNASAWI, ALAA ABD EL FATTAH ALI;
DOB OF 04/02/1986, PASSPORT 934679
4. ABD ALLA, MOHAMED RAGAB MOHAMED;
DOB OF 02/15/1984, PASSPORT 860972
5. EL LAKET, AHMED REFAAT SAAD EL MOGHAZI;
DOB OF 09/01/1986, PASSPORT 943306
6. EL ELA, AHMED MOHAMED MOHAMED ABOU;
DOB OF 02/02/1985, PASSPORT 595081
7. EL MOGHAZY, MOHAMED IBRAHIM ELSAYED;
DOB OF 08/08/1986, PASSPORT 861073
8. ABDOU, EBRAHIM MABROUK MOUSTAFA;
DOB OF 02/25/1984, PASSPORT 828682
9. EL GAFARY, MOUSTAFA WAGDY MOUSTAFA;
DOB OF 07/01/1988, PASSPORT 861673
10. MARAY, MOHAMED SALEH AHMED;
DOB OF 09/12/1985, PASSPORT 862634
11. EL SHENAWY, MOHAMED IBRAHIM FOUAAD;
DOB OF 08/12/1988, PASSPORT 862534
#12
Does anyone else notice that no one is smiling? Ya, go ahead let them in, they just want an education. More like on the job training as a terrorist.
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Kstp coverage of the story is a joke. This is the same station that took PR money from the Sauds after 9-1 and ran pro Arabia commercials. Do not trust these scum.
The one post brings up a good point, I'd put the uncle in jail and sweat the diaper off his head. Minneapolis is full of Muslim terrorist sympathizers, I forget how many have been arrested here. We even had a van load of Muslims on 9-12 casing out one of our nuclear plants. This crap is scary and nether the MSM or the FBI come clean on this information.
Because it would make the other followers of the Peophile for Profit look bad.
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Wait a sec - I think yesterday on TV, when they described how the two captured got separated at the airport, the guy who brought them to police said they don't speak English?
Why then they were enlisted to go to a summer course in English literature? What language that course is in?
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My policeman son informs me that often they don't speak English until they're told they're going to jail.
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The real question is why are we still giving out student visas? On Sept 12 that program should have been put on hiatus for the duration (along with the Saudi fast-past visa program and a dozen others).
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I just looked at the Box Score and it obvious to me that these poor lads are VICTIMS!! America is a BIG PLACE. Imagine landing in New York, asking someone: Hey, wheres Montana??. They give ya a funny look and point generally West.
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The most likely innocent explanation is illegal immigration. Get in on a student visa and disappear. Many thousands do it every year, from all third-world countries.
Now, there may be additional information on this bunch that raises concern.
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2 apparently.
The evidence that this is not coincidence is uh everywhere.
MANVILLE.
Cheez
IF you were stuck at tghe airport and spoke only Arabic you'd end up in Jersey City not MAnville.
But if you were proceeding to targets, then you're only 15 minutes from the heart of the Pharmaceutical industry, or going the other way, 15 minutes from BAyway. Largest petroleum facility west of SAudi.
ew Jerseys extensive chemical and petroleum facilities are widely recognized as potential targets for terrorist groups. Indeed, some experts refer to the two-mile stretch of the New Jersey Turnpike directly west of New York as the most dangerous two miles in America. The close proximity of some of the states chemical plants and refineries to the regions airports, seaports, and major population centers are a major security concern. Similarly, a significant accident at one of the areas chemical facilities could impact more than a million people within the region.
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Oh I want to makke it clear that the second part of my previous post is a quote. My thoughts are rarely that organized.
You will be pleased to note that as I sallied forth, there were lot's of Black Crown Vics w/ antennas and cars w/ Fed license plates cruising about.
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Int'resting. And Dundalk (pronounced "Dun-dawk") is the residential section of the Port of Baltimore.
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There needs to be some sort of credible deterrent with respect to individuals from suspect countries violating the terms of their visa.
For instance, if we are still going to be so blindingly stupid as to permit these budding young terrorists into our country, we had better make them check in with authorities on a weekly basis using a fixed and traced landline to corroborate their reported geographical location.
Or impose a substantial penalty for non-reporting or overstay, such as felony conviction and prolonged imprisonment.
Better yet, a blanket prohibition of any future short term or immigration visas for themselves, all immediate family and even the most distant relations. This might have at least some deterrent value in that those who are honorably seeking to better their life would be held responsible for exactly which of their kin sets foot on our shores.
I welcome any other suggestions from fellow Rantburgers regarding how to discourage these visa violations. Short of the logical solution of banning visitors from terrorist sponsoring or harboring countries, we must put in place better protections for the American people.
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Montana is middle America. Who the hell in their right mind at that school would let this camel turds into their program?
How to keep them out... No answer. We are way to PC and they Muslims are taking full advantage of it. Whoever let them in to the Montana school should be fired. Fired.
Some of you may remember this. After 9-11 14 Kuwaities (sp) disapeared from a Wisconsin university. The FBI showed up and the whole story was squashed. I happened to know because my aunt was working there in the personal office. She was told to keep hush about the whole story.
So we have to ask, if Nazis were caught trying to get into the country during WWII would that be a downplayed story? No. Our Media is bent on seeing us all burn under a Muslim nuclear bomb. It's just a matter of time.
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Who the hell in their right mind at that school would let this camel turds into their program?
All the schools, with exceptions you can count on one hand, are run and staffed by anti-American Tranzis who cater to the cash cow of foreigners. There are big, big bucks made there. And they are bigger whores than the oil companies when it comes to tuition. Just try to make visa processing rational and see who screams the loudest.
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Hmm, anyone else notice that in two cases they were found in pairs? Two in Dundalk, two in NJ ...
Wonder if there is another one someplace in Chi and one in Mpls that haven't been located yet. Odd to me that they should be keeping together in cells, uhm, I mean pairs.
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Just a comment, didn't these guys vanish about the time it's reported that the Brits made the first arrests that led to the arrests of the Pakistani would-be airplane bombers?
In other words, they vanished right around the same time that the arrests first occured.
I'd be turning over the rocky mountains right about now looking for these guys, the timing is fishy as hell.
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MARIETTA, Ohio - Two men were charged Wednesday with money laundering in support of terrorism after authorities said they found airplane passenger lists and information on airport security checkpoints in their car.
Deputies stopped Osama Sabhi Abulhassan, 20, and Ali Houssaiky, 20, both of Dearborn, Mich., on a traffic violation Tuesday. They found the flight documents along with $11,000 cash and 12 phones in the car, said Washington County Sheriff Larry Mincks. damn presbyterians
Prosecutor Susan Vessels declined to say how the phones, cash or flight information involved terrorism. "I can say no more. Put it together yourselves, geniuses in the media"
Abulhassan and Houssaiky admitted buying about 600 phones in recent months at stores in southeast Ohio, said sheriff's Maj. John Winstanley. The men said they sold the phones to someone in Dearborn, a Detroit suburb.
Do they want the phones or the SIM cards?
Investigators going through the car after the pair were pulled over in Marietta, about 90 miles southeast of Columbus, also found a map that showed locations of Wal-Mart stores from Ohio through Kentucky, Tennessee and into North and South Carolina, Vessels said. FBI spokesman Mike Brooks in Cincinnati said his office was notified about the arrests and an agent was investigating.
A message seeking comment was left Wednesday evening with Ray Smith, a public defender who represents Abulhassan. Houssaiky did not yet have an attorney, Vessels said.
Abulhassan and Houssaiky did not speak at a hearing Wednesday in Marietta Municipal Court in which a judge set their bond at $200,000, Vessels said. Another bond hearing was set for Thursday. The charges allege the two laundered between $5,000 and $25,000, Vessels said. A conviction carries a maximum 18 months in prison and a $5,000 fine.
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Abulhassan and Houssaiky admitted buying about 600 phones in recent months at stores in southeast Ohio, said sheriff's Maj. John Winstanley. The men said they sold the phones to someone in Dearborn, a Detroit suburb.
Waaaa, 600 cell phones. Find out who is using them. Terrorism are getting into the hinterlands of Ohio.
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I have worked in that area at times. Osama and Ali would tend attract attention. Local law enforcement would probably be more alert to "strangers" than say the Feds.
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What's with the Wal*Mart maps? Wal*Mart customers in Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, North and South Carolina should be told to be on the lookout for furners with funny accents. They'll know what to do.
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Right after the NSA tracing of phone calls placed to suspected overseas terrorist numbers was exposed by the New York Times, there were reports of muslim men buying dozens of prepaid cell phones at a time. This was probably the time before prepaid cell phones had to be registered. Now that cell phones have to have a name in order to work, I wonder why no one did a computer match to discover so many phones under their names.
maximum 18 months in prison and a $5,000 fine
That is sure deter the little jihadis.
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The judge agreed to let them go on a $200K bond??????? WTF? Someone send that Judge's name over O'Riley and let him explain that one!
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Marietta College has a decently well-known petroleum engineering department that attracts a number of students from the ME. These guys may not have raised an eyebrow among the locals, especially since classes will be starting shortly. That said, 600 phones would be enough to make even the locals say, "but don't y'all have a phone in your room?"
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I know the area well. Live and let live folk, very private. They won't appreciate plotters against America in their backyard. If these scum avoid conviction and escape without buckshot in their rears, they can consider themselves lucky. If they end up in jail, it will have all the markings of a circus act: bearded ladies, three-legged jugglers, and money-laundering terrorists. Quite the spectacle for locals.
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This Dearborn enclave is a real and growing menace. I know authorities monitor these bastards as best they can, but I think this operation ought to be shutdown. Tell them to deport themselves or face detention in large desert camps. They're desert lovers anyway aren't they. Michigan is a totally foreign environment and we ought to help them correct it.
Boy, that'll show him ISLAMABAD - Pakistani authorities have put the founder and former head of the Lashkar-e-Taiba militant group under house arrest in the eastern city of Lahore, a spokesman for the Islamic charity he now runs said on Thursday. Hafiz Mohammad Saeed resigned almost five years ago from Lashkar-e-Taiba, the group suspected of involvement in the Indian rail blasts of July 11 that killed over 180 people, to become head of a charity called Jamaat-ud-Dawa, regarded as its sister organisation. The United States has designated both as terrorist organisations.
They informed us last night that Hafiz could not leave his residence and this restriction is for one month, Yahya Mujahid, Jamaat-ud-Dawas spokesman told Reuters. He said police had been stationed at Saeeds residence and police had also cancelled permission for Jamaat-ud-Dawa to hold a rally in Lahore on August 12. Interior Minister Aftab Ahmed Khan Sherpao told Reuters authorities detained Saeed, fearing his activities could create a law and order situation. He was put under house arrest under the Maintainance of Public Order, Sherpao said, referring to a law under which authorities can detain a person upto 90 days.
After joining a US-led global war on terrorism following the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States, Pakistan put the leaders of several militant organisations under house arrest. Saeed has been put under house arrest several times before but was released later. The dreaded "Stay at Home and Release" program.
Pakistans reluctance to act more strongly against these groups probably stems from the military Inter-Services Intelligence agencys history of support for their activities, according to analysts. India has called for Pakistan to act more forcefully to shut down militant groups in the wake of the Mumbai blasts, and New Delhis suspicions of Pakistani links to the attacks have jeopardised a 2 year-old peace process.
There was no immediate official reaction from India, but foreign ministry officials in New Delhi expressed a mixture of surprise and scepticism. Pakistan is probably trying to give the impression that they are doing something about these groups. Such house arrests have taken place in the past as well and these leaders end up living in luxury, one official, who requested anonymity, said. Lashkar-e-Taiba was one of the groups implicated in December 2001 attack on the Indian parliament, which brought the two countries to the brink of their fourth war.
The group was banned by Pakistan, and its members say it only operates out of Indian Kashmir these days, although members of Lashkar have been arrested in the United States. Jamaat-ud-Dawa was added to a US State Department terrorist list earlier this year. Pakistan has put it on a watchlist but has not banned it. In a report issued last year, the State Department said Lashkar used the charity to gather funds and maintain ties with religious militant groups around the world, ranging from the Philippines to the Middle East and Chechnya.
Jamaat ud-Dawa has been prominent in providing relief after an earthquake killed over 73,000 people and left around three million destitute in Kashmir and northwest Pakistan in October.
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Is this the 'dye your beard red for it pleases Mohammad' look?
MULTAN: Hafiz Shafiqur Rehman of the banned Sipah-e-Sahaba was hanged on Wednesday in the Multan Central Jail. It is the fourth time that a culprit involved in sectarian killings was hanged in the country. Rehman had killed Syed Ejaz Shah, the Tehrik-e-Jafria Bhakkar president. Twelve members of Rehmans family, including his brother Atiqur Rehman, received the body. Earlier, Shieikh Shahzad of the banned Sipah-e-Muhammad was hanged after court found him involved in a murder of a Sipah-e-Sahaba activist in Bahawalpur. Mahram Ali, who was involved in a bomb blast that left Ziaur Rehman Farooqi and over a dozen policemen dead, was hanged. Haq Nawaz of the banned Lashkar-e-Jhangvi was the third to be hanged. Nawaz had killed Sadiq Ganji, head of an Iranian cultural center.
Rehman joined the Sipah-e-Sahaba in 1988, and then switched over to ultra-terrorist group Lashkar-e-Jhangvi in 1995. Reportedly, he went to Afghanistan with a group of preachers (Tableeghi Jamaat) and fought the Russians alongside Taliban. He also got admission to Burawala Degree College but turned out to be a dropout. Dont show my face and follow my footsteps: A total 83 people, including 13 children, met Rehman on Tuesday. His brother Atiqur Rehman and nephew Habibur Rehman told Daily Time that Shafiq asked them not to show his face to other family members. They said that Rehman had asked them not to meet those who would mourn his death and show rejoice over his death. They said that he told them that he had done the right job. Rehman advised his brother to follow his path too. He advised his brother to set up a seminary after his name in Vehari. He also advised people to always be ready to sacrifice themselves for Islam.
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Police have arrested three activists from a banned Islamic group, the Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI), for suspected involvement in the Mumbai train blasts last month, which killed 183 people and injured around 900, said a police spokesman on Tuesday. He said that the men were arrested from various areas of Nagpur in Maharashtra, and they were identified as Shakeel Wasi (32), Shakir Ahmed Naseer (27) and Muhammad Rehan Khan (32).
SIMI advocates the idea of 'India's liberation' by trying to convert the country into an Islamic land, according to the South Asia Terrorism Portal website.
The men had been under surveillance since June when police foiled an attack by Islamic militants on the headquarters of the Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh, a right-wing Hindu group. Fourteen men are now in police custody for suspected involvement in the last month's train bombings. Law enforcement agencies' officials believe that Lashkar-e-Taiba and the SIMI were involved in the bombings, but both groups have denied this. Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said after the blasts that 'certain quarters' across the border had played a role in the bombings. Pakistan, however, denied the statement and offered help in investigations.
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SRINAGAR, India - Two men identified as Islamic militants were killed Wednesday in separate incidents in Indian-controlled Kashmir, officials said, but protesters alleged one was a civilian waiting for a bus.
A group of paramilitary soldiers from Indias Central Reserve Police Force patrolling the busy Dal Gate area of Srinagar, the summer capital of Jammu-Kashmir state, shot a man to death who they said was preparing to throw a grenade at them, said Deputy Inspector-General of Police Farooq Ahmed. Ahmed said two grenades were recovered from the body of the man, who was in his 20s. He was identified by police as Ghulam Mohammad Sheikh, from the town of Bandipore about 60 kilometers (37 miles) north of Srinagar, and a student in an arts college.
Another suspected militant was killed Wednesday in a gunbattle with soldiers in the village of Nildora, 65 kilometers (40 miles) south of Srinagar, said police officer Imtiaz Hussain.
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Basra, 10 August (AKI) - Armed assailants in four-wheel drive vehicles on Thursday attacked the office of Ayatollah al-Sayyid Mahmud al-Hasani in Basra Governorate in southern Iraq, a source from the office told the Iraqi TV network al-Sharqiyah. Al-Hasani's supporters confronted the armed men who used around 30 vehicles laden with heavy weapons, al-Sharqiyah reported. Many of the attackers were killed and a number of al-Hasani's supporters were injured in the clashes, which occurred infront of British forces in Basra, the source said.
The source blamed the attack on the Basra governor and members of the Shiite Islamic Virtue Party of which the governor is a member, as well as some policemen and Iraq's Major Crimes Directorate, all of whom reportedly want to close Al-Sayyid al-Hasani's office in Basra.
Britain, which has 7,000 troops in southern Iraq, with its command located in Basra, last month handed over security in neighbouring Muthanna province to Iraqi forces, the first such handover since the country was invaded in 2003. It is hoped the Muthanna handover will provide a blueprint for further handovers.
The Islamic Virtue Party is one of over 20 groups in Iraq's Shiite dominated United Iraqi Alliance that holds 128 out of 275 seats in the parliament.
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Islamic Virtue, also called Fadhila, is a party of followers of Taters late father, who follow the Sadr familys Khomeinist ideology, but are not personally loyal to young Tater. They have been under pressure from coalition forces in Basra in recent months. I assume Hasani is a SCIRI type.
Relations between the country's political and military leadership are at the lowest point in the country's history, on the verge of a crisis. In addition, there is a growing lack of confidence between Chief of Staff Dan Halutz, the first CoS to hail from the air force, and many of his general staff colleagues from the ground forces, who say he and his "blue clique" [blue being the color of the air force uniform-ed] do not fully appreciate the nature of ground warfare.
According to informed sources, there is an almost total breakdown in trust and confidence between the General Staff and the PM's office. They have described the situation as "even worse than the crises that followed Ben Gurion's decision to disband the Palmach, and Golda Meir and Moshe Dayan's cynical decision to place all the blame for the Yom Kippur fiasco on the IDF's shoulders.
Senior IDF officers have been saying that the PM bears sole responsibility for the current unfavorable military situation, with Hezbollah still holding out after almost a month of fighting.
According to these officers, Olmert was presented with an assiduously prepared and detailed operational plan for the defeat and destruction of Hezbollah within 10-14 days, which the IDF has been formulating for the past 2-3 years.
This plan was supposed to have begun with a surprise air onslaught against the Hezbollah high command in Beirut, before they would have had time to relocate to their underground bunkers. This was to have been followed immediately by large scale airborne and seaborne landing operations, in order to get several divisions on the Litani River line, enabling them to outflank Hezbollah's "Maginot line" in southern Lebanon. This would have surprised Hezbollah, which would have had to come out of its fortifications and confront the IDF in the open, in order to avoid being isolated, hunted down and eventually starved into a humiliating submission.
This was exactly what the IDF senior command wanted, as Israeli military doctrine, based on the Wehrmacht's blitzkrieg doctrine, has traditionally been one of rapid mobile warfare, designed to surprise and outflank an enemy.
According to senior military sources, who have been extensively quoted in both the Hebrew media and online publications with close ties to the country's defense establishment, Olmert nixed the second half of the plan, and authorized only air strikes on southern Lebanon, not initially on Beirut.
Although the Premier has yet to admit his decision, let alone provide a satisfactory explanation, it seems that he hoped futilely for a limited war. A prominent wheeler-dealer attorney-negotiator prior to entering politics, he may have thought that he could succeed by the military option of filing a lawsuit as a negotiating ploy, very useful when you represent the rich and powerful, as he always had. Another motive may have been his desire to limit the economic damage by projecting a limited rather than total war to the international financial powers that be.
Whatever his reasons, the bottom line, according to these military sources, is that he castrated the campaign during the crucial first days. The decision to not bomb Beirut immediately enabled Nasrallah to escape, first to his bunker, subsequently to the Iranian embassy in Beirut.
The decision to cancel the landings on the Litani River and authorize a very limited call up of reserves forced the ground forces to fight under very adverse conditions. Instead of outflanking a heavily fortified area with overwhelming forcers, they had to attack from the direction most expected, with insufficient forces. The result, high casualties and modest achievements.
This is the background of yesterday's surprise effective dismissal of OC northern Command Maj. General Udi Adam. According to various media sources, Olmert was incensed at Adam's remarks that he had not been allowed to fight the war that had been planned. Adam allegedly made these remarks in response to criticism against his running of the war, and the results so far achieved.
Olmert's responsibility for inaction goes much further. The US administration had given Israel the green light to attack Syria. A senior military source has confirmed to Israel Insider that Israel did indeed receive a green light from Washington in this regard, but Olmert nixed it.
The scenario was that Syria, no military match for Israel, would face a rapid defeat, forcing it to run to Iran, with which it has a defense pact, to come to aid.
Iran, which would be significantly contained by the defeat of its sole ally in the region, would have found itself maneuvered between a rock and a hard place. If it chose to honor its commitment to Syria, it would face a war with Israel and the US, both with military capabilities far superior to Iran's. If Teheran opted to default on its commitment to Damascus, it would be construed by the entire region, including the restless Iranian population, as a conspicuous show of weakness by the regime. Fascist regimes such as that of the ayatollahs cannot easily afford to show that kind of weakness.
As previously mentioned, Iran's military capabilities are no match for Israel's. Bottom line, all Iran could do is to launch missiles at and hit Israel's cities, and try and carry out terror attacks. If there is one thing history has shown, it is that such methods do not win wars. Israel would undoubtedly suffer both civilian casualties and economic damage, but these would not be that much more than what we are already experiencing. We have already irreversibly lost an entire tourist season. Any Iranian and Syrian missile offensives would be relatively short, as they are further form Israel, and therefore would have to be carried out by longer range missiles. These, by their very nature are much bigger and more complex weapons than Katyushas. They cannot be hidden underground, and require longer launch preparations, increasing their vulnerability to air operations. In addition it is precisely for such kinds of missiles that the Arrow system was developed.
The end result would be some additional economic damage, and probably around 500 civilian casualties. It may sound cold blooded, but Israel can afford such casualties, which would be less than those sustained in previous wars (for the record, in 1948 Israel lost 6,000, 1% of the entire population, and in 1967 and 1973 we lost respectively 1,000 and 3,000 casualties).
The gains, however, would be significant. The Iranian nuclear threat, the most dangerous existential threat Israel has faced since 1948, would be eliminated. It would also change the momentum, which over the past two decades as been with the ayatollahs. This could also have a major impact on the PA, hastening the demise of the Islamist Hamas administration.
Instead, according to military sources, Israel finds itself getting bogged down by a manifestly inferior enemy, due to the limitations placed on the IDF by the political leadership. This has been construed by the enemy as a clear sign that Israel is in the hands of a leadership not up to the task, lacking the required experience, guts and willpower. In the Middle East this is an invitation to court disaster, as witness by Iran's and Syria's increased boldness in significantly upping the ante of their involvement in the war.
Some senior officers have been mentioning the C-word in private conversations. They have been saying that a coup d'etat might be the only way to prevent an outcome in Lebanon that could embolden the Arab world to join forces with Syria and Iran in an all out assault on Israel, given the fact that such a development would be spurred entirely by the Arab and Moslem world's perception of Israel's leadership as weak, craven and vacillating, and therefore ripe for intimidation.
Seeing the once invincible IDF being stalemated by Hezbollah's 3,000 troops is a sure way to radiate an aura of weakness that in the Middle East could precipitate attacks by sharks smelling blood.
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from NRO
more on the potential deal [Rich Lowry]
From JPost:
Among the ideas being discussed was a "substantially beefed up UNIFIL" force to be made up of German, Italian, Spanish and Australian troops that would move south to the border with the Lebanese Army and deploy where the IDF moves out. Another idea was for a French force to accompany the Lebanese Army.
Senior sources in Jerusalem said, however, that there has been a major shift in the French position over the last week, with French President Jacques Chirac hesitant about committing French troops after seeing the difficulty Israel has had with Hizbullah over the last month. France was initially the major force working for deployment of an international force.
More (lets hope this deal is worth it):
The security cabinet's decision to widen the operation Wednesday, dependent on a final okay from Olmert and Peretz, led the US to publicly disagree with Israel for the first time since the war broke out.
Following the decision, White House spokesman Tony Snow said that moving deeper into Lebanon did not correspond with American policy.
"We want an end to violence and we do not want escalations," Snow told reports at President Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas.
According to diplomatic officials in Israel and in Washington, the US was concerned that a widespread military offensive on behalf of Israel could undermine attempts to reach a new agreement between the US and France over a UN resolution.
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Very interesting. Somebody in Israel has blown it big time. It will be interesting to find out who. Halutz and Olmert seem like the front runners.
And if we gave them the green light on Syria and they didn't go, well that could have real repercussions in the future. The survival of Israel is not a necessary condition to the survival of the US.
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As posted in another thread...if the Israeli Govt cannot / will not defend it's population, then is the state itself even necessary? It's population may be better off finding protection under other governments.
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The Frogs probably figured Israel would squash Hezb'Allah and all they would have to do was mop up. Now there's a real force in Hezb (or at least so the Hezbos now think) and no real force in Israel. Being inbetween those would be a very dangerous place.
Since the beginning of this war, I was wondering why the IAF hadn't immediatly bombed the Hezbollah headquarters in Beirut, which was an obvious military decision.
It's very clear Olmert is a bad leader. He was an attorney before entering politics, and he can't understand that you can't negociate with people who want to exterminate you.
And not only has he been jeopardizing Israel with his awful handling of this war, but he is working to tie the hands of Israel for the future. When there will be an international force in South Lebanon, Israel will no more be able to fight Hezbollah, but Hezbollah will still fire rockets on Israel.
The implications are enormous. Oh what could have been. Iran's reaction to Syria being bitch slaped would have been very interesting.
How many military personel do we currently have in Germany, Korea & Japan?
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Olmert you dumbass, the US wanted an excuse to take out Iran and all they needed was you to blowup Syria, so Iran would come to its aid and we would have taken the nuke threat away. Now we are going to have to do it the hard way, no wonder Condi trying for a cease fire he don't want to fight.
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Good grief, this is grim to read. Is webinsider a reliable source? - I'm just hoping that this is DEBKA-esque, or that this is more disinformation.
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If true, Olmert is disgraced and should resign immediately
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If this is or not true is not really relevant to think that Olmert is an incompetent. After 1 week air power that was already clear. New war in 1 year and i am being optimist.
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acknowledged there's more to lay at his feet, but overtly changing governments in the middle of a war isn't to be done lightly, IMHO
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Yeah, but the next war is gonna be a blood bath. That's what was supposed to be avoided by taking out Hiz-B now.
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Cleret I think you are right, but even before that you will have a new Israeli PM. Bibi will be back in the chair before you know it. The US backing of Israel looks pretty foolish if they won't fight. The second time this happens (open war between Hezb and Israel) there will be no warning and no holding back. Amazing.
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If the info here is credible, then Olmert will find a unique place in Israeli history.
Many ways to skin a cat. You hate to see a prime opportunity squandered by fluke chance - Ari's bad health leading to Olmert's emergence at a pivotal moment. This has been brewing for a long time...
I am grieved most because of the huge political advantages and opportunities lost - imagine what bold Israeli action would have done to open the door for the US to get directly involved without further domestic poltical meandering and bullshit.
Iran will fall. Syria will implode. Hezbollah will disintegrate into the usual Paleo-style twinks.
Now much better than later. Later better than never.
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Although the Premier has yet to admit his decision, let alone provide a satisfactory explanation, it seems that he hoped futilely for a limited war. A prominent wheeler-dealer attorney-negotiator prior to entering politics, he may have thought that he could succeed by the military option of filing a lawsuit as a negotiating ploy, very useful when you represent the rich and powerful, as he always had. Another motive may have been his desire to limit the economic damage by projecting a limited rather than total war to the international financial powers that be.
Will someone please tell this f&ckwit that there is no way to fight a conventional "limited war" against an enemy that is hell bent on religiously motivated genocide.
The only "limited war" against terrorist Islam will involve a "limited" number of nuclear weapons. Something that looks more likely with each new atrocity passing day.
But who made it possible for him to become Prime Minister, based on pie-in-the-sky notions of Israeli detente and land-for-peace deals with the Palestinians? The electorate. They are now paying the price for their foolishness.
#21
Flatten the Iranian Embassy in Beirut - take out the entire grid square. Iran doesn't recognize the sanctity of other nation's Embassies, so theirs should be fair game. Then, after it is a smoldering crater, Israel should apologize mildly. Oops, we thought we were attacking a combattant command and control HQ. Our apologies.
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Sound like the IDF had a good plan. A successful flanking maneuver is the beginning, middle, and end of any battle. It's a real shame Olmert was too stupid to follow the plan.
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Hell fire, if Olmert did not know how to attack an embassy, all he had to do is to call Slick Willie and he (for a nominal fee) will tell how he did it in Serbia back in the Monica dayz.
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surprise air onslaught against the Hezbollah high command in Beirut, before they would have had time to relocate to their underground bunkers. ... followed immediately by large scale airborne and seaborne landing operations, in order to get several divisions on the Litani River line, enabling them to outflank Hezbollah's "Maginot line" in southern Lebanon. This would have surprised Hezbollah, which would have had to come out of its fortifications and confront the IDF in the open, in order to avoid being isolated, hunted down and eventually starved into a humiliating submission.
Thos look like an awfully familiar plan with familiar words.
Damn shame their guys couldn't sell it to the pacifist idiot leftists who have put their national survival (and our attempts at regional stability) in the sh*tter.
LESSON:
DO NOT PUT PACIFIST LIBERALS IN COMMAND DURING WAR.
PERIOD.
Got that America? Or we end up learning the same lessons, writ much larger, with an order of magnitude more deaths.
I say this, if the pacifists take power and manage to get us clobbered, they will be exterminated politically in the US. Kos, that means you and your nutroots. Remember, in an anarchy, the anarchists are always the first ones against the wall.
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This is so ironic everytime Israel would fight the US told them to back off. Now the US is telling Israel to fight and their leadership wants to back off.
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Not sure if this article is real but it confirms exactly what has had me fuming the last couple days when it became obvious Olmert didnt have the sack.
We need a Causi Belli to bomb the brakes of the Iranian military and nuke program to buy US enough time to get Iraq together and RR our forces. Israel needed Causi Belli to devastate the Paleo terrorist headquarters in Damascus. It was perfect Hezbos jumped gave it to US. The LLL lites Hilary, CNN, ect were on board hell even the SUNNI governments were on board at first Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabias head Imam issued a Fatah that Hezbollah was EVIL.
The situation was unheard able in history perfect ripe for the taken. Now its totally upside down I dont know who screwed the pooch Olmert seems high on the list I dont know but its FUBAR big time.
Of course the Radicals are well known for making insane suicidal decisions due to underestimating their enemies. They may instead of accepting believe the hype and go for broke which will put Olmert into either risk being Impeached Removed by popular sentiment or give the green light.
Who knows the next week will tell.
And give me a break on the Causi Belli thing its late and I just cant remember how the hell its written so it may or may not be right dont look right thats for sure.
Israel has ordered the Gaza-Egypt border crossing closed just hours after it was partially opened for the first time in weeks, EU and Palestinian officials said Thursday. Israel informed European monitors that the crossing had to shut because it had a high security alert, officials said. The Israeli army had no immediate comment.
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If for no other reason than to maintain a constant level of seething...it actually saves energy in the long run.
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PASSENGERS and stewards onboard a Qatar Airways plane heading to Qatar from Jordan overpowered an Eritrean passenger who tried to force his way into the cockpit, an airline spokeswoman said. She told Al Jazeera television that the Eritrean man, 21, was carrying a box containing an unknown substance, prompting the captain to return to Jordan immediately after the incident.
It might not have been a hijack attempt ... he might have been psychologically ill...
The captain declared an emergency onboard and landed in Amman, where the passenger was handed over to Jordanian security. Now the plane is about to take off for Doha with the remaining passengers, she said, adding that all the passengers were unharmed.
Earlier, a passenger had described the scene to Al Jazeera. Just after take-off, one of the passengers moved towards the cockpit and, when one of the flight attendants stood in his way, he hit him (the attendant), Samir Samri, said. It might not have been a hijack attempt ... he might have been psychologically ill, he said.
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turns out he wanted to go to the bathroom, and those Qatari flight attendants are REALLY serious about not getting up when the "fasten seat belts" light is on. And Mr Eritrean seemed to think he could appeal to the pilot about his gastrointestinal needs. The substance seems to have been a medicine of some kind - presumably not a laxative.
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Exactly what is an Eritrean? Are they Mormons? The area used to be an Italian protectorate I think and part of Ethiopia. Now, whenever the MSM refers to Eritrea, no mention is made towards any religious issues. However, given the violent civil war which resulted in its seperation from what used to be predominantly Coptic Christian Ethiopia, one would have to assume Islam troubles.
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert will wait to see in which direction the diplomatic process is headed before giving the IDF a green light to implement the expanded ground operation the security cabinet approved at the end of a tense, six-hour meeting Wednesday, senior sources in the Prime Minister's Office said.
This is the process known as "dithering."
According to these officials, the waiting period would be "very short."
Yeah. They should be booming Tel Aviv any time now...
The security cabinet, by a vote of 9-0 with three abstentions, approved plans to expand the IDF ground operation to the Litani, which at some points is 30 kilometers from the border, in order to take out the Katyusha launchers that have wreaked havoc on northern Israel over the past month. Vice Prime Minister Shimon Peres (Kadima), Culture and Sport Minister Ophir Paz-Pines (Labor), and Industry and Trade Minister Eli Yishai (Shas) cast the abstaining ballots.
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Hez will never stop. Everyone knows this. Freshly armed and on their knees to Iran?
Green Light GO.
If you are a Jump refusal, you will be terminated.
Thier is a big difference between talkin about pulling the trigger and actually pulling a trigger. The guy who usually threaten to hit you wont and is really just trying to get out of having to hit you. The guy you gotta watch out for is the quit guy who dont say nothing just up and bust you upside the head.
Learn to post links, C-Low. You're busting the page. Next time, I wipe 'em
Report: IDF soldiers take up positions on a strategic hill overlooking Litani River
Israeli troops, backed by tanks and armored vehicles, entered the key south Lebanese town of Marjayoun early Thursday hours after the Israeli cabinet approved a plan to expand a ground offensive in Lebanon, residents said.
After taking Marjayoun, Israeli soldiers moved to the nearby village of Blatt where they took up positions on a strategic hill overlooking the Litani River valley, witnesses said. (AP)
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Smells to me like there must have been a call from Rice telling them to delay. I don't think they would do this voluntarily. We (US) are going to screw the pooch yet, just like in Iraq. Anytime we don't apply max force as soon as possible, it's a mistake.
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The fact that the Israeli authorities are delaying the attack, or at least say so, is very strange: it's as if there weren't 150 rockets blowing Israeli towns each day!
This is the first war waged by Israel during which at least part of the cabinet is talking as if it hopes an imposed cease-fire agreement will end the war.
But the writing - in blood and fire - is on the wall. Our national future hangs in the balance. It is entirely possible we will not get another chance to defend ourselves.
I pray that my pessimism is mistaken.
In every previous war Israel did its best to fight up to the last moment, up to the cease-fires that were forced on it. That is what David Ben-Gurion did in the War of Independence; what Moshe Dayan as chief of staff did in the Sinai Campaign of 1956; and what Yitzhak Rabin as chief of staff and Dayan as minister of defense did in 1967.
And the strinking conclusion:
I have this to say to the government: If you do not bomb Hizbullah to kingdom come now, you will have lost the right to blame the allies of World War II for not bombing Auschwitz.
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Hope you're right, Rex, and that Olmert's Hamlet routine is disinformation. But I think he just doesn't have the stones to do what must be done, and is hoping a cease-fire resolution acceptable to the U.S. will relieve him of the responsibility of a painful decision.
It's a decision the west in general, as well as Israel, faces with respect to Iran: hundreds or thousands of troops perish soon or hundreds of thousands or millions of civilians are slaughtered in our streets later.
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I can't understand how the Israeli government works and thinks.
Haaretz is reporting that Shimon Peres, who abstained Wednesday for the vote on a broadened attack, explained that:
"he did not support the move because it has already forfeited the element of surprise, may involve numerous fatalities and would endanger Israel's relations with Arab and Muslim states"
I usually don't swear, but, !#@§*!, what the !&%¤#! is he talking about ?
Israel is attacked by Arabomuslim genocidal terrorists, and he is concerned about "Israel's relations with Arab and Muslim states" ???
Olmert said, according to the same Haaretz article :
"We must act resolutely, with a strong military force, even at the cost of human life. But if we can achieve our goals through diplomatic moves, it would be irresponsible not to do so"
Goal: eliminate the Hezbonut terrorists.
Diplomatic move: sign a sheet of paper.
So, how can Israel kill the Hezboschmucks with a sheet of paper ?
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This is hard to say. I think it's time for the Israeli military to start making the decisions. It is sad to say the current political and democratic method will not peserve Israel. The military is the last defense of that nation.
While Iranian rockets rain down on Israel it's leaders show weakness and vacillation to those who would destroy them every last man woman and child is they were allowed.
I am past words which can describe this stupidity.
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US pressure prompts delay of offensive The troops were already rolling late Wednesday when they were ordered to halt. It appears heavy US pressure delayed the offensive to allow diplomacy to run its course.
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Peres and Omert dither while innocent Israelis get bombed.
Did Churchill dither while the Germans bombed London?
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you got it right gromgoru we are the reason they are not moving .... typical bullshit ...more israelis die while we make them wait on the sidelines .. I wish they would tell us to fuck off and get on with it
#23
once again the entire world including us hands the hezbos the victory they could not achieve on their own and terrorisust everywhere INCLUDING iraq are encouraged that if they will just wait long enough we all will cave and play by their rules
#24
I am willing to bet this is the reason we have not seen more troops from the start, we gave them a greenlight for a certain level of activity thinking it would be enough, well not when you give terrorists years to turn an entire country into a damn fortress, and the world, collectively pissing in their silk panties out of fear, did nothing
#25
You guys are so pessimistic. Why all the negative waves? This is exactly the way Olmert and Peretz have fought the whole war. I would not be surprised to find out the reason Adam was relieved in place was because he was getting too agressive.
#26
I don't understand (yes, I do) the 10,000 cabinet meetings for every dog tick military operation. How about coming up with an overall military objective, for example something hypothetical and out of thin air such as "destroying the Hezbollah" and complete the objective? The Israeli civilian crappership is taking "mission creep" to new and unseen horizons.
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IsraELI needs to quit pussyfooting around. Hezbzallah and Hamas is trying to destroy you. If the U.S. keeps screwing around, they are going to become no better than the U.N. Negotiation with the islamofacists is a recipe for disaster.
Green light, geen light, GREEN LIGHT (My wife says I am yelling at the computer again)!
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Shimon Peres urges to give diplomacy a chance: Fifteen victims a day is a proof of the price we are likely to pay if we dont try to utilize the diploamtic process to the fullest. (Ynet) 04:47 PDT
#30
The delay is just for a chance to train up the new arrivals. Olmert does play the clown to perfection, however. His act seems to mask the real potential of the Israelis to wage war.
Eventually, the clown will tire of all the cartwheels and get serious.
Didnt mean to Bust the thread or anyones balls. They were all related links that added not changed the direction of the post.
I thought thread busting hijacking was say when you posted a link about Military waiting green light to attack and I drop a link in the comments about how Syrker Brigade sent into reinforce IA in Baghdad. Dont add but changes the conversation about the original link.
#32
"Didnt mean to Bust the thread or anyones balls."
C-Low, you were chastized for "busting" the page formatting by posting long links not enclosed by HTML tags. Hence the warning "...learn to post links...".
And while you're at it, try learning to write an intelligible sentence, your posts are gibberish.
#33
C-Low, I think they were referring to using the "a href" tag to post a lin as opposed to pasing the link in as text. It doesn't wrap and so the window gets too wide for people running at a low resolution. If the "a href" tag reference doesn't make sense check into this, particularly here.
#36
Israel cant occupy half of lebanon indefinitely. At some point they have to get out, and if theres nothing left behind, not the Leb army, or an International force, the Iranians will just set up a new Hezb. Rinse and repeat, every couple of years. What have you gained?
OTOH if they can get something useful out of the UNSC, that could be a real gain. Theres no missiles hitting Israel from Jordan, and Jordans just as much populated by muslims, arabs, etc as Leb is - and the Jordan govt is just as cynical. Diff is that Jordan controls its own territory. Rice is promising that she can get a deal that will advance Lebs control of its own territory. Several members of the Israeli cabinet think its worth delaying the attack a couple of days to give her a chance.
Whether shes realistic or not, is not something Im in position to answer.
#37
"I am willing to bet this is the reason we have not seen more troops from the start, we gave them a greenlight for a certain level of activity thinking it would be enough, well not when you give terrorists years to turn an entire country into a damn fortress, and the world, collectively pissing in their silk panties out of fear, did nothing"
Thats pretty much what socialist amir peretz said to Mofaz, who attacked the Peretz plan - what did YOU do when you were DM, and they werent yet as dug in. This govt is dealing with the aftermath of Hezb having 6 years to dig in, and thats left them with some pretty challenging dilemmas.
IDF says no one was held prisoner, they came to a Leb facility, asked the Lebs to "share it" when they refused demanded they surrender the place, the Lebs asked to leave, the IDF then "suggested" it would be too dangerous to take to the road, and that they should stay.
#45
Diplomacy does not work outside the bounds of rational thought. It is imposible to reason with an enemy who's ultimate goal is your inihilation. Islam is not interested in land or money except for that which empowers them toward their ultimate goal, the extermination of the jewish people. A cease fire now only empowers hezb and its supporters time to recover and reorganize.
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Manolo - I suspect in your arrogance you don't know that Mr 6 posts those malaprops deliberately. You haven't been here long enough or don't know his previous nym. When faced with an incongruence, choose caution, rather than exhibit behavior other's find objectionable. Was that good enuf 4 U?
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Frank, you're a fine one to speak of arrogance. I've been here for over four years, maybe you don't know my previous "nym".
I suspect that you don't realize I post my little digs deliberately as well. My suggestion that C-Low work on bringing his high gibberish factor down, wasn't directed at 6, or you for that matter. Comprende?
IDF forces arrested six fugitives throughout the West Bank overnight Wednesday. One Islamic Jihad operative was arrested in the Re'i village south of Jenin. Two Fatah operatives and one Jihad activist were arrested in Nablus. Two Jihad operatives were arrested in Hebron.
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The IDF General Staff postponed the expansion of ground operations in south Lebanon late Wednesday night, after the security cabinet earlier in the day approved a plan for a widened offensive that would take the army to the Litani River, over 20 kilometers from the border, and beyond, in an effort to prevent the incessant Katyusha rocket attacks on northern Israel. 40,000 IDF troops and reservists were massed along the northern border Wednesday evening in preparation for Israel's largest and deepest ground incursion into southern Lebanon since the beginning of Operation Change of Direction last month.
Some 7,000 IDF troops were operating in southern Lebanon Wednesday, clashing with Hizbullah guerrillas in several villages while holding and maintaining position along a 10-kilometer-deep security zone the IDF had created. A high-ranking IDF officer and member of the General Staff told The Jerusalem Post Wednesday that it would take the military at least one week to reach the Litani and beyond, and to set up position and begin taking control of the area. The officer said that it would then take four to six weeks to clear out southern Lebanon, from the Litani river south, of the Hizbullah presence and to destroy the thousands of Katyusha rockets and rocket launchers believed to be in that area.
The IDF estimates that the area between the Litani river and the security zone that military forces are currently maintaining is home to 70 percent of the Katyusha rockets launched at northern Israel. In the plan approved by the cabinet on Wednesday, the IDF was also granted permission to cross the Litani river into areas like Nabatiyeh, from where Hizbullah has been firing rockets at the upper Galilee, as well as Haifa and other coast-lying cities.
Hizbullah's Nasser Unit, in charge of southern Lebanon, was still operational, the high-ranking officer said, and numbered several thousand Hizbullah fighters, including reservists, which the guerrilla group had called up in anticipation of Israel's planned massive ground incursion. Hizbullah, the officer said, still retained its command and control abilities throughout Lebanon and had fighters deployed in between 100-130 villages from the Litani south. North of the river, the officer said, Hizbullah had a smaller presence, but one that still numbered several thousand fighters. In southern Lebanon, within the security zone the IDF had created, soldiers were still battling in two Hizbullah strongholds - Bint Jbail and Ayta a-Shaab, scenes of heavy fighting between IDF troops and Hizbullah gunmen on Wednesday.
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My guess is that those are four or five km grids.
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they will never make it in, bush and condi will see to that, US pressure has stopped the offensive expansion, more israelis will die while we kiss nasrallahs ass
An IDF force from the Haruv Battalion arrested a Palestinian female suspected of intending to carrying out a suicide bombing in Israel. She was arrested at the Beit Iba checkpoint near Nablus. Shortly afterwards, a second Palestinian female was also arrested, who according to suspicions was meant to drive the bomber to the destination of the intended attack.
...over the past month police and military forces thwarted eight suicide bombing and kidnapping attempts. During that time 396 terror operatives were arrested, among them 12 suicide bombers...
Aside from this incident, over the past month police and military forces thwarted eight suicide bombing and kidnapping attempts. During that time 396 terror operatives were arrested, among them 12 suicide bombers who were nabbed before embarking on their missions.
The foiled bombings planned to target Bnei Brak, Rehovot, Alon Moreh, and Oranit. A planned kidnapped was thwarted in Tel Aviv. While Israeli forces are fighting Hizbullah in south Lebanon, security forces have been investing intense efforts to prevent Palestinian terror groups from carrying out attacks. The security establishment assessed that most of the attacks were orchestrated in cooperation with Hizbullah, in attempt to open up a third front in the West Bank.
Two Islamic Jihad operatives were killed Wednesday morning when an IAF helicopter gunship fired at least one missile towards the house they were occupying in a refugee camp in Jenin. The West Bank air strike was out of the ordinary, as the last air strike on the Palestinian territory was carried out 1.5 years ago. According to Palestinian reports, an Apache helicopter fired a missile at the house, which was occupied by a cell of al-Quds, the Islamic Jihad's military wing. The air strike killed Amjad Ajami, 20, from a village near Tul Karm, and Muhammad Atili, 28, from a village near Jenin. Atili was a leading member of the cell responsible for numerous attacks within Israel. Ajami was a fugitive since May of last year and was hiding in Tul Karm. About a year and a half ago, Ajami was recruited by the Islamic Jihad in northern Samaria to act as one of the two suicide bombers dispatched to carry out a double attack in Jerusalem, which was thwarted by security forces. He was involved in planning additional bombing attacks and recruiting bombers.
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How about a few televised Body Cavity Searches?
Border Guard policemen killed a senior Islamic Jihad official in the Silat al-Khartiyeh near Jenin on Sunday. Palestinians identified the man as Rashed al-Omri, a senior activist in the al-Quds Brigades, the military wing of Islamic Jihad.
The security establishment believes al-Omri was killed in exchanges of fire with troops but residents say he was arrested and executed.
The security establishment believes al-Omri was killed in exchanges of fire with troops but residents say he was arrested and executed.
The heart bleeds... Or maybe it was the chili...
Palestinian sources said Border Guard policemen besieged a house in which al-Omri was hiding for five hours before the arrest. They said al-Omri was arrested alive. Israeli forces remain in the village and Jenin. The Islamic Jihad called on all cells to carry out terror attack against IDF troops in Israel and the territories in support of Hizbullah. Islamic Jihad activists distributed sweets in celebration of the death of 11 Israelis in a rocket attack by Hizbullah.
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The security establishment believes al-Omri was killed in exchanges of fire with troops but residents say he was arrested and executed.
Either way is fine with me. Option #2 means he won't be a martyr I suppose. Allahu akbar!
JERUSALEM - Hezbollah guerrillas fired 160 rockets at Israeli towns on Wednesday, including medium- and long-ranged rockets that landed near the West Bank town of Jenin and the Israeli city of Beit Shean, police said. Three people were lightly wounded.
Five of the rockets landed near a Palestinian town in the West Bank on Wednesday, Palestinian security officials said. There were no casualties. The rockets landed near the village of Arabani, on the Israel-West Bank frontier, the officials said. Clouds of smoke from the rockets could be seen 20 kilometers (12 miles) away in the town of Jenin, witnesses said.
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If they hit Jenin, it will be a massacre. The first massacre to occur there, mind you.
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I'm waiting for these asses to send a long range rocket into the mosque in Jerusalem so Israel can put up the temple, as per the biblical end time scenario.
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TW, the established halacha is that we dont do animal sacrifice TILL we have the third temple, and we dont do the third temple till the moshiach comes. And Rambam, the most important halachist of all time, said that when moshiach comes, moshiach will abolish animal sacrifice. But, AFAIK, the tiny group of people who constitute the Third Temple crowd in Israel, definitely expect to resume animal sacrifice. Im not sure how they deal with Rambam - I guess the prediction about what Moshiach will do is aggadah, not halachah, and so can be contested easily.
If the mosques on the mount blew up, but there were no other signs of moshiach (dead being revived, etc) my sense would be that the Orthodox establishment, backed up by secular Israeli society, would oppose the construction of anything Jewish on the Temple Mount, unhappy as this would make the above mentioned 3rd temple crowd.
OTOH, i think almost every Jewish Israeli would support archaelogical digs on the Mount, in that case.
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#5 The Jews don't do Temple worship anymore. If it is rebuilt it will end up being a theme park for the tourists, nothing more. I think this comment would have been more effective in the original german text.
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AN Israeli helicopter gunship fired at least one missile into a Palestinian militant training camp in the Gaza Strip overnight, killing two gunmen and wounding five other people, witnesses said. They said two children were among the wounded in the strike on Gaza City, both of them in critical condition.
"Wanna come down to the camp and watch us train, beppy?"
The Israeli military, which has frequently attacked armed factions spearheading a five-year-old Palestinian uprising, confirmed the strike, saying it targeted militants who were planning attacks. The dead gunmen were identified as members of the Popular Resistance Committees, a militant coalition that has played a leading role in cross-border rocket salvoes into Israel.
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MANILA, Philippines - Two homemade bombs and a grenade exploded in separate attacks on Thursday in the southern Philippines, killing a policeman and wounding five others, including a police ordnance expert, police said. An unidentified man riding on a motorcycle lobbed a grenade at the guardhouse of a government compound in southern Cotabato city, killing a policeman and seriously wounding three others, police said. A police investigation was underway to identify the attackers. The ARMM governs an autonomous, predominantly Muslim, region consisting of five impoverished provinces and a city.
Almost simultaneously, two bombs went off in Kidapawan city in North Cotabato province, about 80 kilometers (50 miles) from Cotabato city, wounding passers-by and a police ordnance expert, police said. There was no evidence linking the grenade attack to the bombs, according to police.
A small bomb went off on a roadside near a hotel in Kidapawan, but caused no injuries or damage, security officials said.
Another bomb, made of a mortar shell, was discovered shortly afterward by passers-by near a busy road in Kidapawan, prompting the deployment of a police ordnance team, police said. As they were preparing to approach the bomb, it exploded, injuring one policeman and a civilian, provincial police chief Federico Dulay said. Army troops and police had cleared the area of people before the explosion, preventing a possible larger number of casualties, Dulay said.
No one claimed responsibility for the Kidapawan blasts. Dulay speculated that terror groups may have been involved because the attackers placed the explosives in usually crowded areas and the bombs appeared to be different from those used by extortion gangs. They were aimed at bringing about a deterioration in the security, Dulay told The Associated Press by telephone.
Dulay placed Kidapawans 70-member police force on high alert and ordered road checkpoints and intensified street patrols.
Col. Ruperto Pabustan, commander of the 602nd Infantry Brigade in North Cotabato, said he suspected involvement by two al-Qaeda-linked groups _ the Abu Sayyaf, a small but violent Filipino extremist group, and the Indonesian-based Jemaah Islamiyah _ based on the explosives design and their location in busy areas. Troops and marines are waging offensives against the Abu Sayyaf and suspected Indonesian militants on nearby Jolo island. Communist and Muslim guerrillas have a presence in Kidapawan, about 920 kilometers (570 miles) south of Manila. The city has had several bomb attacks in recent years.
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Colombo, 10 August (AKI) - Heavy fighting resumed on Thursday in the northeast of Sri Lanka between the army and the separatist rebels of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE). According to the pro-rebel website, Tamilnet, at least 45 civilains were killed and several others injured when the Sri Lankan army launched aerial and artillery attacks in Kathiraveli and surrounding villages in the north-east as thousands of civilians continue to flee the area. The military has denied the claim by the Tamil Tigers. Both sides have given conflicting reports of the latest violence.
The Sri Lankan government began on offensive last month to gain control of the Maavilaru waterway after the Tamil Tigers cut the water supply to villages. This latest fighting is the worst between the two sides since a ceasefire was siged four years ago. In a bid to re-open the waterway, the Sri Lankan army deployed 2,000 soldiers to the area.
Last week the government accused the rebels of ethnic cleansing as closing the waterway deprived thousands of farmers and tens of thousands of civilians - mainly ethnic Sinhalese and Muslims - of water. Most of the violence has been in the town of Muttur, some 70 kilometres south of the waterway. Thousands of the town's residents, who are mainly Muslims, have fled the area. Reports say almost 800 people have been killed in the fighting in recent months.
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Don't underestimate this - more cheap aircraft to train suicide pilots.
Private aircraft are numerous, not guarded, easy to steal/fly /hide and can carry enough to pack a sufficient bang. It is a logical choice as the next airborne weapon for jihadists.
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Exactly, 175 knots is plenty fast when you are flying "nap of the earth". Better get your AWACS tuned to eliminate ground noise boys and girls.
#5
If the Israelis capture some Iranian bodies, they ought to loudly say to Iran, identify them by name, rank and serial number, or else we will have to assume that they were Christian civilians killed in the fighting and give them a Christian burial.
I'm sure the Iranian RG and military would be thrilled to hear that.
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This is pure bullshot.
They need a few days to train up those just called up. The tanks are already rolling, but everything is not yet ready for a full attack.
#3
nope - the cabinet is divided. Peretz wanted a straight ahead ground offensive to roll up Hezb all the way to the Litani. Everyone knows that will take a month or more, will cost heavy IDF casualties, and will be costly diplomatically. Olmert got Mofaz, the ex-Def Minister, to propose a sweep to the Litani, without clearing out Hezb, so they could proclaim victory. Rice apparently said shes close to a deal, and Lipni, the Foreign Minister, says she wont support an offensive without giving Rice a couple of days to do the deal.
AFAICT, Peretz, the socialist union boss, is the one most pushing for an aggressive strategy, and its the pro-capitalist types from Kadima who are holding back. Whether thats cause of Peretz's own deep rooted beliefs, or its a political thing to make him look tough enough to be PM someday, I dont know.
#4
Big mistake, a truly huge mistake. After so many decades of UN inspired hobbling of Israel and concomitant promotion of her foes, the IDF must slip the leash of world opinion and finally inflict sufficiently fatal blows to her enemies. Even the slightest hudna lull only adds up to more IDF casualties. Enough already. Advocates of terror must be handed their lead-infused heads on a platter.
#5
Yes, Israel has to go on and fight the war that needs to be fought.
An Israeli minister said that Israel should totally bomb all Lebanese cities south of Lebanon. That's obvious. So, what are they waiting for ? And why are the US putting pressure on Israel ? And where has gone Bush's resolve to fight terrorism ?
IDF troops killed five Hizbullah terrorists in the village of Rajmin on Wednesday afternoon. Another eight terrorists were killed by the army in the town of Bint Jbil. The IDF have killed a total of 30 Hizbullah members on Wednesday in the Lebanese towns of Rajmin, Bint Jbil, Masjara and Ayta al-Shaab.
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Anyone know where I can get a 1:25,000 scale map of south Lebanon? Too many of these small towns aren't on the Unifil map, the Unifil map doesn't show terrain or infrastructure, and it's a piece of crap. Email me or leave a message here.
BTW, Marjayoun, mentioned in an earlier article, is almost on the Litani River in eastern Lebanon, above Metulla. It's about 8km north of the Blue Line, and at the entrance to the Bekaa valley. It seems the attack in that direction may be aimed at cutting off smuggler routes into southern Lebanon from Syria - a good deal, if the IDF can do it.
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While siren sounds were being heard across the Kiryat Shmona and Golan Heights regions, IDF forces entered areas north of Metula Wednesday night and started operating near the south Lebanese village of al-Hiyam, an area from which rockets are being launched at the Galilee panhandle on a daily basis. IDF officials said that the incursion represented an expansion of the operation near the border, stressing that in the near future the offensive will be widened in other sectors as well. However, diplomatic sources stated that the current activity did not constitute part of the broadened operation approved by the Security Cabinet Wednesday that may lead the army as deep into Lebanese territory as the Litani River.
The IDF's operations throughout south Lebanon will reach the Litani River in roughly one week...
The IDF's operations throughout south Lebanon will reach the Litani River in roughly one week, a senior IDF officer assessed Wednesday afternoon, in response to the National Security Cabinet decision to boost military activity. In addition, forces will require four to six weeks to attain full ground control, the army official estimated. Against the difficult backdrop of casualties in southern Lebanon, the Security Cabinet approved the widening of operations in Lebanon. Soldiers will now be sent to operate against rocket launchers across the region. The aim to find and destroy rocket launchers used to attack northern Israel . Nine cabinet ministers supported the operation, while three Ophir Pines, Shimon Peres, and Eli Yishai abstained.
In the meantime, the evacuation of soldiers from southern Lebanon and the arenas of the difficult battles continue. Nine soldiers that have been hurt in south Lebanon battles were evacuated to the Rambam Hospital in Haifa so far. Another 21 wounded were evacuated to the Nahariya hospital, four of them are in moderate condition and the others sustained light injuries. Seven troops who were lightly wounded were evacuated to the Ziv Hospital in Safed. Since Wednesday morning IDF forces have been engaged in heavy battles with Hizbullah gunmen, who continue to fire various types of missiles at armored IDF vehicles and structures in which soldiers are staying. Two IDF soldiers were moderately injured near Marj Ayoun. At dawn Paratroopers Brigade troops left Lebanon, but large forces are still operating in dozens of locations, this in addition to elite reserve units operating deep inside Lebanese territory.
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You KNOW the IDF are shooting back, and with more firepower, including air power. Plus, they get better re-supply and re-enforcement. So with as many casualties as the IDF are taking, one has to wonder how many more they are giving. Nasrallah talks a good fight, but I'd sure rather be on Israel's side if I was Joe Grunt.
#2
One thing you don't hear anything about is how many of these "injured" are returning to their units, and the fight. If they're anything like the US military, 75% return within 48 hours, and 90% return within a week.
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QASMIYE, Lebanon The wounded men moved slowly across the hot patch of cratered earth. Some limped. One used crutches. Two carried their own colostomy intravenous bags. The secret war of shadow militia fighters being waged against the Israeli Army from the mountains of southern Lebanon came into sharp focus Tuesday near a gnarled tree trunk that serves as the only remaining crossing over the Litani River,
Hezbollah fighters, their faces exhausted and drawn, shuffled gingerly toward the crossing, leaving, at least for now, the front lines of a war that has won them broad support among local people here and has frustrated the Israeli military for weeks...
which divides northern Lebanon from the war in the south. Hezbollah fighters, their faces exhausted and drawn, shuffled gingerly toward the crossing, leaving, at least for now, the front lines of a war that has won them broad support among local people here and has frustrated the Israeli military for weeks. "I don't know a thing," said Yusef Rafaai, a local emergency worker helping the men. "I know they're Lebanese. More than that I don't know."
"I know nothing! No-thing! Tell them, Hogan!"
The river and its crossings - all makeshift since the Israelis blew up the last bridge a few days ago - have pushed even the most secret activities into the open, offering an unusual view of this ordinarily hidden guerrilla war. Besides the fighters, bread, canned tuna, sardines and processed cheese - donations from Iran - were being carried across, with help from local Lebanese who support Hezbollah.
The movement showed that the Israeli bombing, which had gouged huge craters out of the area around the river, had not broken supply lines. Despite the bombardments, Hezbollah continues to operate in some areas in open view of Israeli drones, which whine overhead in the brilliant afternoon sky. Shortly after 1:30 p.m., in a large, open dirt field cut with giant craters from Israeli bombs, five ghostly fighters became ordinary, wounded men.
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So every one of them are 100% behind Hezbollah, actively aiding them, and thus suitable targets for killing?!? Wow, nice of this reporter to verify that there are NO "innocent civillians" in ALL of Southern Lebanon. Every single one of 'em is a Hezbollah supporter/helper/booster/member!
#4
If you strafe the river day and night and nothing will cross it. Call it a line of exclusion or a dead zone or anything you like. Drop leaflets warning of the danger of attack after X hours on X date until further notice. Then do it. Give about 30 min warning. Anything on either bank that moves simply stop from moving from then on. REd Cross or no since the Red Cross is being used to support the terrorists it has no protection use it as a target.
HEZBOLLAH today denied Iranian fighters were among its guerillas battling Israeli forces in southern Lebanon.
"Hezbollah categorically denies the lies and claims that the enemy is promoting that Iranian fighters are present in the confrontations with the occupation forces," the pro-Iranian Lebanese guerrilla group said.
Israel's Channel 10 television earlier cited diplomatic sources as saying members of Iran's Revolutionary Guard had been found among Hezbollah guerillas slain by Israeli forces in southern Lebanon.
It said the Iranians were identified by papers found on their bodies, but gave no further details on how many were discovered or when.
Iran, like fellow Hezbollah patron Syria, insists its support for the Shiite guerrilla group is purely moral.
Israel says many of the rockets being fired against its civilian and military targets are Iranian made, and that Hezbollah fighters taking on its forces trained in Iran.
Washington also accuses Tehran of actively funding Hezbollah.
Iran's Revolutionary Guards are traditionally very close to fellow Shiite Muslims in Hezbollah and were deployed in south Lebanon in the 1980s.
ISRAELI gunboats have shelled a refugee camp in Lebanon, killing two people, as France and the United States hammer out a new draft UN resolution aimed at securing a ceasefire in the four-week war. Five children four puppies, three kittens, two fluffy bunnies and a baby duck were among 15 injured in the strike on the Ein el-Hilweh camp in southern Lebanon, which houses about 50,000 Palestinian refugees and has been opened up to Lebanese fleeing Israeli strikes at Hezbollah targets elsewhere in the country. Two shells fell on the area around the home of Colonel Munir Maqdah, a military chief of the Fatah movement in Lebanon, camp sources said. The victims were pulled out of a house destroyed by the strike as rescue efforts continued to try to find any others trapped inside.
Earlier in southern Lebanon, Israeli air strikes have killed 14 villagers and wounded 23 in Ghaziyeh, rescue workers and hospital officials have said. The bombs fell as mourners elsewhere in the village were burying 15 people killed by a raid there the previous day. An Israeli army spokeswoman said the building hit belonged to a senior Hezbollah member and was not near the funeral. She said all residents had been told in advance to leave.
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Too damn bad we don't have any 16" battleships left on duty. Perfect for them. Nothing like a sustained barage from the big guns to clear the sinuses.
#2
they should shell the hellhole at least twice a week, on general principle
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On 8 February 1984, New Jersey fired almost 300 shells at Druze and Syrian positions in the Bekaa valley east of Beirut. Some 30 of these massive projectiles rained down on a Syrian command post, killing the general commanding Syrian forces in Lebanon and several other senior officers. This was the heaviest shore bombardment since the Korean War.
#4
Unfortunately, even if we reactivated the remaining BBs we have (two, I believe), it would take them two to three years to be ready for service. The CVN/CVA boys need to understand that everything can't be done by aircraft, and there's a role for heavy firepower in the US Navy. I wish we had five or six of these monsters ready to rain havoc on anyone that deserved it. Replace some of the 5" guns on the sides with MLRS launchers, add a PAC-3 launch array and the AEGIS radar, Sea Sparrow, CIWS, and a helicopter deck and you'd have something that would strike fear into the hearts of ANY enemy.
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ISRAELI ground troops pushed further into southern Lebanon today as the army suffered 15 casualties in the single worst day of fighting in the four-week war. This new operation falls within the geographical framework already established, army spokesman Captain Jacob Dallal said, playing down a media report that an expanded sweep against Hezbollah was under way. Capt Dallal said tanks and troops had crossed into Lebanon in order to quell Hezbollah rocket fire from al-Khiam, a town that has already seen fighting.
The Associated Press reported the military said 15 soldiers had been killed and 38 wounded in battles across south Lebanon. Israel TV said some of the dead and wounded were reservists, and the others were from the standing army. Reports citing diplomatic sources also said members of Iran's Revolutionary Guard had been found among Hezbollah guerrillas slain by Israeli forces in southern Lebanon. Israel's Channel 10 television reported the Iranians were identified by papers found on their bodies, but gave no further details on how many were discovered or when.
Earlier in the day, Israel's security cabinet authorised an expanded sweep into southern Lebanon. Witnesses in Lebanon said Israeli ground troops had reached the village of Qlaya, 5km from the border. Israeli troops have carried out frequent incursions into southern Lebanon in the past four weeks.
Witnesses on Israel's northern border said earlier that Israel had begun its expanded offensive against Hezbollah guerrillas as armoured columns moved into southern Lebanon under cover of intensive artillery fire. World powers are divided on a UN resolution to try to end the four-week war which has claimed 1005 lives in Lebanon and killed 101 Israelis.
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Birmingham, 10 August (AKI) - Most of the 21 people arrested overnight in connection with a failed plot to blow up numerous commercial aircraft mid-flight between Britain and the United States are "understood" to be British citizens of Pakistani origin, the local Birmingham Mail daily reported on Thursday. "Sources indicated that the majority if not all of those arrested were British... the majoirty of those arrested were understood to be of Pakistani origin," the Birmingham Mail said. Police have not yet confirmed the identities of any of the suspects arrested and have said they believe other suspects may still be at large.
The arrests related to the terror threat to UK flights stretched across London, High Wycombe in Buckinghamshire and the West Midlands. Twenty-one people are being held in London after raids during the night. Searches are under way at a number of businesses and homes after an "unprecedented" level of surveillance. 
A major terrorist plot to blow up planes in mid-flight has been disrupted, Scotland Yard has said. It is thought the plan was to detonate explosive devices smuggled on aircraft in hand luggage, with flights from the UK to the US being targeted. During the night, police arrested a number of people in London after a counter-terrorist operation they said had lasted several months. Security at all airports in the UK has been tightened and delays are expected.
MARIETTA, Ohio - Two men were charged Wednesday with money laundering in support of terrorism after authorities said they found airplane passenger lists and information on airport security checkpoints in their car. 
ISLAMABAD - Pakistani authorities have put the founder and former head of the Lashkar-e-Taiba militant group under house arrest in the eastern city of Lahore, a spokesman for the Islamic charity he now runs said on Thursday. Hafiz Mohammad Saeed resigned almost five years ago from Lashkar-e-Taiba, the group suspected of involvement in the Indian rail blasts of July 11 that killed over 180 people, to become head of a charity called Jamaat-ud-Dawa, regarded as its sister organisation. The United States has designated both as terrorist organisations.
MULTAN: Hafiz Shafiqur Rehman of the banned Sipah-e-Sahaba was hanged on Wednesday in the Multan Central Jail. It is the fourth time that a culprit involved in sectarian killings was hanged in the country. Rehman had killed Syed Ejaz Shah, the Tehrik-e-Jafria Bhakkar president. Twelve members of Rehmans family, including his brother Atiqur Rehman, received the body. Earlier, Shieikh Shahzad of the banned Sipah-e-Muhammad was hanged after court found him involved in a murder of a Sipah-e-Sahaba activist in Bahawalpur. Mahram Ali, who was involved in a bomb blast that left Ziaur Rehman Farooqi and over a dozen policemen dead, was hanged. Haq Nawaz of the banned Lashkar-e-Jhangvi was the third to be hanged. Nawaz had killed Sadiq Ganji, head of an Iranian cultural center. 
Police have arrested three activists from a banned Islamic group, the Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI), for suspected involvement in the Mumbai train blasts last month, which killed 183 people and injured around 900, said a police spokesman on Tuesday. He said that the men were arrested from various areas of Nagpur in Maharashtra, and they were identified as Shakeel Wasi (32), Shakir Ahmed Naseer (27) and Muhammad Rehan Khan (32). 
SRINAGAR, India - Two men identified as Islamic militants were killed Wednesday in separate incidents in Indian-controlled Kashmir, officials said, but protesters alleged one was a civilian waiting for a bus.
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert will wait to see in which direction the diplomatic process is headed before giving the IDF a green light to implement the expanded ground operation the security cabinet approved at the end of a tense, six-hour meeting Wednesday, senior sources in the Prime Minister's Office said. 
The IDF General Staff postponed the expansion of ground operations in south Lebanon late Wednesday night, after the security cabinet earlier in the day approved a plan for a widened offensive that would take the army to the Litani River, over 20 kilometers from the border, and beyond, in an effort to prevent the incessant Katyusha rocket attacks on northern Israel. 40,000 IDF troops and reservists were massed along the northern border Wednesday evening in preparation for Israel's largest and deepest ground incursion into southern Lebanon since the beginning of Operation Change of Direction last month. 
An IDF force from the Haruv Battalion arrested a Palestinian female suspected of intending to carrying out a suicide bombing in Israel. She was arrested at the Beit Iba checkpoint near Nablus. Shortly afterwards, a second Palestinian female was also arrested, who according to suspicions was meant to drive the bomber to the destination of the intended attack. 
Border Guard policemen killed a senior Islamic Jihad official in the Silat al-Khartiyeh near Jenin on Sunday. Palestinians identified the man as Rashed al-Omri, a senior activist in the al-Quds Brigades, the military wing of Islamic Jihad. 
JERUSALEM - Hezbollah guerrillas fired 160 rockets at Israeli towns on Wednesday, including medium- and long-ranged rockets that landed near the West Bank town of Jenin and the Israeli city of Beit Shean, police said. Three people were lightly wounded. 
AN Israeli helicopter gunship fired at least one missile into a Palestinian militant training camp in the Gaza Strip overnight, killing two gunmen and wounding five other people, witnesses said. They said two children were among the wounded in the strike on Gaza City, both of them in critical condition.
While siren sounds were being heard across the Kiryat Shmona and Golan Heights regions, IDF forces entered areas north of Metula Wednesday night and started operating near the south Lebanese village of al-Hiyam, an area from which rockets are being launched at the Galilee panhandle on a daily basis. IDF officials said that the incursion represented an expansion of the operation near the border, stressing that in the near future the offensive will be widened in other sectors as well. However, diplomatic sources stated that the current activity did not constitute part of the broadened operation approved by the Security Cabinet Wednesday that may lead the army as deep into Lebanese territory as the Litani River. 
ISRAELI gunboats have shelled a refugee camp in Lebanon, killing two people, as France and the United States hammer out a new draft UN resolution aimed at securing a ceasefire in the four-week war. Five children 
ISRAELI ground troops pushed further into southern Lebanon today as the army suffered 15 casualties in the single worst day of fighting in the four-week war. This new operation falls within the geographical framework already established, army spokesman Captain Jacob Dallal said, playing down a media report that an expanded sweep against Hezbollah was under way. Capt Dallal said tanks and troops had crossed into Lebanon in order to quell Hezbollah rocket fire from al-Khiam, a town that has already seen fighting.
