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Alamoudi gets 23 years
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Britain
Capt. Hook to face charges in Britain
Britain will charge radical Muslim cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri with terrorism offences, putting U.S. attempts to extradite him over a 1998 hostage-taking in Yemen on hold. Prosecutors and police on Friday said only that a decision had been taken on whether to charge Abu Hamza. But a source familiar with the case confirmed to Reuters that prosecutors had advised he should be charged in Britain. The outspoken cleric, who has preached in support of Osama bin Laden, is already in British jail after the United States began legal steps to extradite him. The United States has indicted him on 11 counts including having a role in the 1998 hostage-taking in Yemen in which four people died. The cleric, who has one eye and a steel hook after being wounded in Afghanistan fighting Soviet forces, was arrested under a U.S. warrant in May. But in August Britain launched its own probe to see whether it could mount a case against him. A full five-day extradition hearing was due to start on October 19 but would have to be postponed until after any case raised in Britain is answered, officials have said.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 10/15/2004 1:08:20 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [264 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It's long over due.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/15/2004 16:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Fry 'em up. Lard.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/15/2004 17:18 Comments || Top||

#3  Can you imagine the hideous spawn were he and Lynn Stewart ever to hook up in prison. Best he stays in Britain, just in case.
Posted by: 2b || 10/15/2004 18:41 Comments || Top||

#4  tick… tick… tick… tick…
Posted by: Korora || 10/15/2004 19:02 Comments || Top||

#5  Smee. Do you hear that?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 10/15/2004 19:07 Comments || Top||

#6  Great photoshop work.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 10/15/2004 23:30 Comments || Top||

#7  I wonder what made the Brits finally take action? The US charges? Embarrassment? Spinal transplant?

They've had this vermin in their midst for years. He's been doing the same shit ever since he came to Finsbury. They could've taken his ass down long ago. Better late than never, I guess - but get yourselves a death penalty, boys. Your pussified PC Penal Code is a dipshit social engineer's dream, but it's not worth warm spit against killers.

Rule O' Thumb: If it's all grown up, and it's broken, you're just gonna hafta kill it if you want the grief to end.
Posted by: .com || 10/15/2004 23:42 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
13YO Beslan survivor wouldn't abandon 8YO sister
There was a moment when Vika Kallagova could have fled the hellish maelstrom of bullets, screams and explosions that School No. 1 had become on the first day of September. But the 13-year-old chose not to. Her 8-year-old sister Olya was inside the school, trapped with hundreds of other children and adults by nearly three dozen heavily armed militants. So Vika went back in.
Story continued at link.
Posted by: Dar || 10/15/2004 3:25:39 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [289 views] Top|| File under:

#1  You might be a little girl - but you sport a pair that clang kid, there are many grown-ups that could learn a thing or two from you about courage and loyalty.
I'm sorry that there are real monsters in this world and you had the misfortune to run into some.
Posted by: JerseyMike || 10/15/2004 15:32 Comments || Top||

#2  Ditto.

Hopefully there will be a settling of accounts before too long.
Posted by: badanov || 10/15/2004 15:34 Comments || Top||

#3  i hope we get full reports of the vengeance that will come too the ppl who did this.
Posted by: smokeysinse || 10/15/2004 16:31 Comments || Top||

#4  Another entry for "Profiles in Courage," I should think.
Posted by: Mike || 10/15/2004 16:32 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
Suspected N.Koreans enter S.Korean China mission
Twenty men, women and children claiming to be North Koreans broke into the South Korean consulate in Beijing on Friday seeking asylum, a diplomatic source said. South Korean YTN television showed footage of the group clawing through a barbed-wire fence and scaling a wall to enter the compound in a leafy diplomatic area at dawn. The group included four children and was made up of 14 women and six men, the source said. Consulate officials were not immediately available for comment.
I hope they were too busy serving food and drinks.
Last month, 44 North Korean asylum seekers used makeshift ladders to scale the fence and leap into the Canadian embassy in Beijing. Hundreds of asylum seekers from reclusive North Korea have broken into foreign embassies and consulates in China since 2002, hoping to secure passage to wealthier South Korea, but usually in smaller groups. Sources in Beijing's diplomatic community say South Korea's consulate is a common target, and most of the asylum seekers enter on the basis of fake documents rather than breaking in. At any time there are as many as 100 holed up in the compound in Beijing's leafy diplomatic district, sometimes for weeks as they await passage to the South via a third country, they say. Two sections of an inner wire fence at the South Korean diplomatic mission had been snipped away but it was unclear how the outer fence was breached. At 8.30 a.m., two police cars were outside the compound and officers were taking notes.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/15/2004 1:19:37 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [243 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What's happening with the crew that jumped the fence in to the Canadian embassy?
Posted by: Classical_Liberal || 10/15/2004 12:14 Comments || Top||

#2  as many as 100 holed up in the compound in Beijing’s leafy diplomatic district,

Pretty obvious why they drew a crowd.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/15/2004 13:55 Comments || Top||

#3  as many as 100 holed up in the compound in Beijing’s leafy diplomatic district, Pretty obvious why they drew a crowd.


Aaaack! How in the world did I miss that snarky comment when I was editing, Ship? Thanks, I've been honestly bested.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/15/2004 14:56 Comments || Top||

#4  What happened to those who broke into the school, thinking it was an embassy?
Posted by: USN, retired || 10/15/2004 16:26 Comments || Top||

#5  All snarks aside USN, I haven't heard anything. That was a heartbreaker of a story.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/15/2004 17:21 Comments || Top||


Europe
Germany Nabs Suspected al-Qaida Financier
Authorites on Friday arrested a Syrian-German businessman who is wanted by Spain on charges he helped fund the al-Qaida terrorist network for years and who appeared in a wedding video at a mosque with some of the Sept. 11 hijackers, German officials said. Mamoun Darkazanli, 46, was taken into custody in Hamburg on a Spanish warrant and is being held for possible extradition, city judicial spokeswoman Sabine Westphalen told The Associated Press. Darkazanli was questioned by German police shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on the United States after it emerged that three of the suicide hijackers lived and studied in Hamburg. He was freed for lack of evidence and continued to live in the German port city.

His Hamburg-based trading company was has been labeled a front for terrorism by the Bush administration. Darkazanli was one of the first people to appear on U.S. suspect lists after Sept. 11, but has denied any links to bin Laden or the attacks. Spanish authorities allege that Darkazanli was "one of the key figures of the al-Qaida terror network" and "the permanent contact person and assistant of Osama bin Laden in Germany," Hamburg authorities said in a statement.
Gosh, you mean Bush was right?
He is accused of giving logistical and financial support to the network in Spain, Germany and Britain since 1997, the statement said. The U.S. Treasury Department ordered a freeze of his personal assets and those held by his import-export company. German officials followed suit and placed him under formal investigation, but until now have been unable to arrest him for lack of evidence. He first caught the attention of German investigators in 1998 when they learned he had power of attorney over a German bank account opened by bin Laden's suspected financial chief, Mamdouh Mahmud Salim.
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Posted by: trailing wife || 10/15/2004 4:41:15 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [293 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: WoT
D. C. Muslim activist sentenced to 23 years
A federal court Friday sentenced a Muslim activist to the maximum 23 years for breaking financial sanctions on Libya and lying in tax and immigration forms. Abdurahman Alamoudi, an Eritrean-born naturalized U.S. citizen, was sentenced to 276 months by Judge Claude M. Hilton in Alexandria district court. On July 30, 2004, Alamoudi pleaded guilty to violating the law prohibiting unlicensed travel to and commerce with Libya, making false statements on his application for naturalization and concealing his financial transactions with Libya and foreign bank accounts from the IRS.

As part of his plea agreement, the Justice Department said, Alamoudi agreed to cooperate in an ongoing investigation into an alleged Libyan plot to assassinate Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Abdullah. Alamoudi became a naturalized citizen in 1996. He is the founder and former executive director of the American Muslim Council (AMC), the founder of the American Muslim Foundation (AMF), and was an influential member of other Islamic political and charitable organizations, and was invited to the White House in 2
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 10/15/2004 5:54:14 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [606 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And no wife-beating conjugal visits.
Posted by: jackal || 10/15/2004 21:56 Comments || Top||

#2  invited to the White House in 2000.

that would be the Clinton White House.

When Abdurahman Alamoudi, friend and sometime adviser on Islamic affairs to Hillary Rodham Clinton, stood before a Muslim crowd in Lafayette Park across from the White House this week and passionately declared his support for the terrorist organizations Hamas and Hezbollah, he was revealing the true face of "moderate" Islam.
He was also revealing the blindness, or rather the willful complicity, of America's political elites, particularly the Clintons, who have welcomed these Islamic "moderates" into our midst and helped raise them to important positions of influence in American life.

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Posted by: 2b || 10/16/2004 8:57 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Indonesia's nightspots ordered to close for Ramadan
The Islamic fasting month of Ramadan started yesterday and the Indonesian entertainment industry is grumbling over local edicts to close nightclubs, massage parlours and amusement centres for the entire period. Jakarta masseur Rini Widowati said she would observe the fast, but grumbled about a city order that shut down her establishment. 'It sucks,' Ms Widowati said, adding that although she would continue to get her basic salary, she would not earn any of the tips that make up most of her pay. Restaurants can open during the day, though most hang thick curtains over their windows. Under Jakarta's decree, issued in 2002, all of the city's thousands of massage parlours, freestanding nightclubs, bars and karaoke rooms have to close for the month. Discos in five-star hotels can stay open but with limited hours. The same curb applies to restaurants featuring live bands so long as they serve alcohol 'discreetly'.

Administrations around the country have issued similar edicts. Some have taken the enforcement of the ban into their own hands. In 2001, Islamic militants launched nightly raids on clubs that flouted the ban during Ramadan. But since the 2002 Bali bombings, those groups have disbanded amid a crackdown on extremists. It is unclear how effective this year's ban will be. City officials and police, who are responsible for its enforcement, are notorious for taking bribes in exchange for turning a blind eye. In the seedy Blora nightclub district of central Jakarta, a handwritten notice hanging on the door of one bar announces it will be closed for just three days. Aphrodite Bar and Restaurant, which is popular with foreigners, has covered up its trademark statue of the nude Greek goddess of love with a silk cloth - but plans to open as normal. But some bar and restaurant owners say they are undaunted by the government restrictions, or the possibility of threats by militant groups. 'It's a nuisance,' said a cafe owner on Jaksa Street, a popular haunt of foreign backpackers. 'But I refuse to change my business. Everyone has a right to his freedom.'
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 10/15/2004 7:34:59 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [269 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Indonesia’s nightspots ordered to close for Ramadan"

Of course they were. Did anyone expect otherwise? Totally phreakin' obvious.
Posted by: .com || 10/15/2004 23:43 Comments || Top||


Bashir charged over Marriott
Our Indonesia correspondent, Tim Palmer, says prosecutors lodging the indictment have confirmed that Bashir will face charges relating to the bombing of Jakarta's Marriott Hotel last year. Prosecutor, Andi Herman, says the indictment lodged with South Jakarta District Court contains allegations that Bashir ordered or motivated other people to take part in a terrorist attack on the Marriott Hotel, which killed 12 people.

Bashir's defence team has consistently ridiculed suggestions that the cleric was behind that attack, as he had been in custody for nine months leading up to the bombing. The trial is expected to focus on Bashir's alleged leadership of Jemaah Islamiyah, an extremist group authorities say has ties to al Qaeda.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/15/2004 10:42:48 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [275 views] Top|| File under:


Police link discovered bombs to terrorists
Indonesian police said Friday two bombs found at a house in West Java might be the work of two Malaysian terrorists wanted for major bombings in the country. National police chief Gen. Da'i Bachtiar said the bombs, found inside two backpacks, were discovered following a powerful explosion Thursday night at a rented house in the West Java district of Cianjur. Witnesses said four unidentified men, wounded in the explosion, left after the blast and have not returned to the house. Police found the backpacks when they arrived to investigate the explosion.

Bachtiar said the bombs in Cianjur, about 60 miles southeast of Jakarta, could be linked to a terror group led by two fugitive Malaysians, Azahari Husin and Noordin Mohammed Top. Cianjur is the hometown of A. Golun, the man who detonated a suicide bomb outside the Australian Embassy in Jakarta on Sept. 9. Azahari and Noordin, believed to be senior leaders of the al-Qaida-linked Jemaah Islamiyah, are accused of a string of terror attacks including the October 2002 Bali bombings, the August 2003 blast outside Jakarta's J.W. Marriott hotel and last month's blast outside the Australian Embassy.
Posted by: tipper || 10/15/2004 11:26:46 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [274 views] Top|| File under:

#1  They obviously want to blow up all of our rice. If indonesia cant export rice to us there will be a world war...yes...indeed
Posted by: Quarterdeck || 10/15/2004 14:20 Comments || Top||


Bashir faces death penalty
INDONESIAN prosecutors have formally charged militant Islamic cleric Abu Bakar Bashir with involvement in a suicide bombing last year at Jakarta's JW Marriott hotel in which 12 people died. South Jakarta district court official Yunda Hasbi said the trial was expected to begin in about two weeks. If found guilty Bashir could face the death penalty under Indonesia's tough anti-terrorism laws. Prosecutors are expected to focus on his alleged leadership of Jemaah Islamiyah, an Al-Qaeda-linked extremist group authorities say is behind the Marriott and other attacks, including the October 2002 Bali bombings.

The 65-page indictment accuses the white-bearded Bashir, 66, of planning or inciting others to terrorism or helping them carry out an "explosion which endangered or cost the lives of others." Prosecutors have compiled a 50-centimetre (20-inch) case file containing testimony from 74 witnesses, accusing him of providing assistance to terrorists and withholding information about terrorist acts. Mr Hasbi said Bashir was "implicated in the Marriott bombing" and other strikes, but not the Bali attacks in which 202 people died. The August 2003 suicide car bombing at the US-franchised Marriott hotel in Jakarta killed 11 Indonesians and a Dutch banker.
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Posted by: tipper || 10/15/2004 10:45:12 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [285 views] Top|| File under:

#1  'bout friggin time. Guess he'll suddenly have a "condition" that requires another extended hospital stay?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/15/2004 10:59 Comments || Top||


Thai troops fight terror pillion-style
Having tried bullet-proof versions of Thailand's three-wheel "tuk tuks" and armoured sentry-boxes, the Thai army has come up with a new security solution for troops in its restive south: the back-to-front motorbike team. Soldiers riding pillion have been told to sit facing backwards to counter the threat of separatist gunmen in the kingdom's Muslim-majority south. Some 315 people have been killed this year. Despite complaints from troops about the awkward riding position and difficulties keeping the bike upright, Thai Army General Palangoon Klaharn said it would be much safer for the men. "If we ride backwards, it will more difficult to be attacked or if it happens, we can respond immediately," Palangoon told AFP.
"What do troops know about anything anyway? It's even safer for them if the bikes fall over and they can't leave the parking lot," he forgot to add.
He said the idea was the brainchild of Defence Minister Chetta Thanajaro. Chetta has also mooted banning pillion passengers among civilians after a two-man gun team on a motorcycle emerged as a favoured tactic of separatists following a resurgence in violence since January.
Rantburg's Motorcycles of Doom (TM), all rights reserved.
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/15/2004 10:58:43 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [261 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I wonder, did the "separatists" (what PC-Pussies at news.com.au) have the gunman ride backwards, too?
Posted by: .com || 10/15/2004 1:31 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Islamic Army in Iraq threatens Italian nationals: website
The Islamic Army in Iraq, a militant group which kidnapped and executed an Italian journalist, threatened to target all Italian nationals in Iraq unless Rome withdraws its troops from the country, according to a message posted on the group's website. "We warn the Italian people and their government to withdraw their troops and businesses from Iraq," said the statement, posted alongside photographs of Enzo Baldoni, the journalist who was shot dead by his captors in August. "Any soldier, any investor, business owner or civil servant will suffer the same fate" as Baldoni, the group said in a "statement to the Italian people" posted on the site http://happynow.jeeran.com/b3htm.
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 10/15/2004 7:43:54 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [275 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So how are they going to do this: ask each potential kidnapee his/her nationality, then throw back those not on today's list?
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/16/2004 0:39 Comments || Top||

#2  Islamic Army in Iraq has an italian speaking jihadi in their ranks. Only italian speaking that is. That's what he recognizes. Therefore, that narrows down their choice of kidnapees.
Posted by: Memesis || 10/16/2004 0:45 Comments || Top||

#3  So AFP is now in the business of publicising terrorist web sites.
Posted by: ed || 10/16/2004 1:07 Comments || Top||

#4  ed, if AFP only... It's MSM at large. [spit]
Posted by: Memesis || 10/16/2004 1:19 Comments || Top||

#5  I'm sorry, I've forgotten, where are those French journalists again?
Posted by: 2b || 10/16/2004 8:49 Comments || Top||


Platoon Mutiny Alleged In Iraq
The Army is investigating reports that several members of a reservist supply unit in Iraq refused to go on a convoy mission, the military said Friday. Relatives of the soldiers said the troops considered the mission too dangerous. The reservists are from the 343rd Quartermaster Company, which is based in Rock Hill, S.C. The unit delivers food and water in combat zones. According to The Clarion-Ledger newspaper in Jackson, Miss., a platoon of 17 soldiers refused to go on a fuel supply mission Wednesday because their vehicles were in poor shape and they did not have a capable armed escort...
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/15/2004 2:10:15 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [256 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Bing!
Posted by: Shipman || 10/15/2004 17:29 Comments || Top||

#2  It seems a valid argument, if it is valid.

Refusal to do dangerous things when there is not a demonstrable need to do them is called suicide.

Rushing a machine gun nest that has the platoon pinned down and dying before you can do anything is a sacrifice.

Driving in a convoy of trucks in need of maintenance, without enough armament to deter ambush is tempting suicide.

A pointless death because someone is too lazy to get things done right is not what our troops deserve.

One the other hand if they are simply attempting to get out of dangerous duty because they are scared . . . that is what firing squads are for (that will NEVER happen . . . we have no Pattons, or Eisenhowers).
Posted by: Jame Retief || 10/15/2004 19:27 Comments || Top||

#3  Laumer Rules!(Tip o'hat to "Jame Retief")
Yes,I think State Dept. too often resembles his CDT.
Posted by: Stephen || 10/15/2004 19:53 Comments || Top||

#4  #2 - there are Pattons and Eisenhowers in this Army - look at General Franks. This case does not need a general it needs a strong 1st SGT to put a boot in somebodys ass - either the Battalion HQ for not providing the escort or the soldier shirking duty whichever case.
Posted by: JP || 10/15/2004 22:35 Comments || Top||

#5  Haven't yet seen Franks as an Eisenhower, much less Patton. He is a manager, a good manager, but not the strong warrior. Managers always rule when the wars start, but it is at the end of the war that the true warriors are put in command, while the managers go back to the states and manage the infrastructure. It is how we win our wars, when we choose to win.
Posted by: Jame Retief || 10/16/2004 9:12 Comments || Top||


U.S. Probes if GIs Refused Iraq Mission
The Army is investigating reports that several members of a reservist supply unit in Iraq refused to go on a convoy mission, the military said Friday. Relatives of the soldiers said the troops considered the mission too dangerous. The reservists are from the 343rd Quartermaster Company, which is based in Rock Hill, S.C. The unit delivers food and water in combat zones.

According to The Clarion-Ledger newspaper in Jackson, Miss., a platoon of 17 soldiers refused to go on a fuel supply mission Wednesday because their vehicles were in poor shape and they did not have a capable armed escort. The paper cited interviews with family members of some of the soldiers, who said the soldiers had been confined after their refusals. The mission was carried out by other soldiers from the 343rd, which has at least 120 soldiers, the military said.

Convoys in Iraq are frequently subject to ambushes and roadside bombings. A whole unit refusing to go on a mission in a war zone would be a significant breach of military discipline. A statement from the military's press center in Baghdad called the incident "isolated."
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Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 10/15/2004 3:11:49 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [280 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This could be serious if it's widepread. But it sounds isolated to this one unit. Not an Army type but isn't a Platoon much larger than 17? I thought that was a squad?
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 10/15/2004 15:39 Comments || Top||

#2  It sounds like someone is spinning this. This does not appear to be "failure to obey a direct order from an officer appointed over me" which is a court marshal offense. It appears to be analogous to a pilot being unable to launch for a mission because of equipment failure.

It does appear to be someone at the battalion staff level got their panties in a bunch when the platoon scheduled to make the run said they couldn't do it because of deadlined vehicles, and the lack of escorts, which is SOP.
Posted by: anymouse || 10/15/2004 15:40 Comments || Top||

#3  Sarge, a service support platoon could be anywhere from 20 to 60 guys. Maybe there were only 17 guys that refused orders out of this one. This will be interesting. It's usually not up to any troops to consider a job too dangerous, if that were the case not one guy would've got out of those higgins boats at Normandy or Iwo. Especially when your supposed to be resupplying your comrades in arms on the front lines. I'll reserve judgement as I was not there but this leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Lawful orders are non-negotiable, if their C.O. told them to whack civilians then they should refuse all day.
Posted by: Jarhead || 10/15/2004 15:52 Comments || Top||

#4  Thankd Jarhead, I can't pass judgement either because I am not on the ground. I think anymouse is on to something there about a move order coming down and not being able to go because of equipment. I can't imagine someone refusing to go simply because they thought is was dangerous.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 10/15/2004 16:00 Comments || Top||

#5  They may also be under orders to not proceed with the convoy unless proper escort is available.
Posted by: TomAnon || 10/15/2004 16:31 Comments || Top||

#6  I know that unit. It was a good unit and had excellent NCOs. I can't imagine that has changed. The problem right now is we are only hearing from worried family members. Family members that went to the press to air their gripes. The jury is still out.
Posted by: JP || 10/15/2004 19:00 Comments || Top||

#7  ...One other possibility - that there were genuine, solid reasons to say "we arent going with the equipment and escort we have", and some Major Burns type overreacted...

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 10/15/2004 21:58 Comments || Top||

#8  Here's the sccop: they had orders to go, but redlines the veihicles as needing some depot level maint - transmissions, engines and such would not pass the '-20" inspections at a level required for use in direct combat.

So these guys refused to violate regulations and go. And the OIC apparently thought they were gundecking the maint reports to get out of combat. I'd bet the regulations support the redline: there's not a maint NCO worth his salt that cannot justify a redline on a whim. The regulations are that easy to stack up - they were written with peacetime in mind in terms of the gigs you can chalk up against a vehicle. In GW-I, about a quarter of our Bradleys could have been redlined if we wanted to get picky.

The press naturally is blowing this out of proportion.
Posted by: OldSpook || 10/15/2004 22:17 Comments || Top||

#9  I have read a little more - and know some of the personalities in that unit. The over reaction by a Major Burns type is probably going to be closest to the truth. Re: deadlined vehicles - 90% of my vehicles in the last war could have been consisered deadline, but we continued with the mission. Lots of soldiers did not want to go on missions - but went one way or the other. I guess the jury is still out until more info comes in. The press has no business in this matter at this time - let the Army work it out in peace. Old timey NCO justice beats fighting it out in the press anytime.
Posted by: JP || 10/15/2004 22:30 Comments || Top||


Syria Shells Iraq
SNIP
Elsewhere, several mortar rounds believed fired from Syria exploded Friday near the border town of Husaybah, said Marine Lt. Col. Chris Woodbridge. There were no casualties. Marines say mortar attacks from Syrian territory have increased in recent weeks though it's unclear who is launching them.
SNIP
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 10/15/2004 1:55:05 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [265 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Marines say mortar attacks from Syrian territory have increased in recent weeks though it’s unclear who is launching them.

My money's on Syrians.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 10/15/2004 14:12 Comments || Top||

#2  If true, it sounds like an invitation.
Let's hope the RSVP is nice and hot and boomy.
C'mon Nov. 3!
Posted by: Hyper || 10/15/2004 14:24 Comments || Top||

#3  Fire back with twice the intensity. No reason to take their shit if we don't have to.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 10/15/2004 14:32 Comments || Top||

#4  If Assad want to make it happen, keep firing more sells into Iraq and discover there is more then one road to Damascus.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/15/2004 16:09 Comments || Top||

#5  How can this not be causus belli?
Posted by: jackal || 10/15/2004 21:57 Comments || Top||

#6  All in good time, dear fellow, all in good time.
Posted by: Old Fogey || 10/16/2004 0:11 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Jundallah member jugged
Pakistani police said Friday they have arrested an Al Qaeda linked local militant suspected of involvement in an attack on a top army general and a foiled attempt to blow up the United States consulate here. Police identified the suspect as Syed Adnan Shah, 26, a member of the Jund Allah or Army of God militant group, whose members had been trained by Al Qaeda in camps near the Afghan border. Shah was arrested from a house in Karachi's Nazimabad neighbourhood late Thursday, senior police official Manzoor Mughal told AFP.

"Adnan was the one who opened fire on (army) commander Ahsan Saleem Hayat and was also wanted in connection with an attempt to blow-up an explosive-laden car outside the US consulate," he said. Lieutenant General Hayat, former military commander of southern Sindh province, narrowly escaped the attack on his convoy on June 10. Seven soldiers, three policemen and a passerby were killed in the attack. Mughal said Shah was also involved in an attempt to blow-up a car laden with 650 litres of chemical explosives outside the US consulate in Karachi in March. He described the Jund Allah group as dangerous and said police were looking for other members who may be hiding in the city.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/15/2004 10:39:30 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [267 views] Top|| File under:


Iraq-Jordan
Fox reports:Fallujah
Fox is reporting Fallugah is being pounded as we sit here.
Posted by: Raptor || 10/15/2004 9:36:14 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [264 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I hope "pounded" means what it should mean. If its a couple of pinprick strikes that just happen to be in view of a reporter, then that isn't "pounded".
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 10/15/2004 11:57 Comments || Top||

#2  me too laurence. I think of pounding as kinda like the carpet bombing of WWII. I think an example needs too be made of this shithole town.
Posted by: smokeysinse || 10/15/2004 16:27 Comments || Top||


U.S. Forces Arrest Chief Falluja Negotiator
Does this mean no more negotiations?
Posted by: Ol_Dirty_American || 10/15/2004 8:12:17 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [258 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Snarfed up while trying to haul ass. Heh. Either send them back in or detain until the party's over. Sure, their families can go - if no males over 15 in the group, but these clowns are complicit actors and part of the problem and do not deserve a safety not afforded to the avg Fallujahn.
Posted by: .com || 10/15/2004 8:55 Comments || Top||

#2  send them and their families back in...they need to suffer the consequences of their lies, foot-dragging, and covering for foreign fighters and Baathist killers.
Posted by: Frank G || 10/15/2004 9:03 Comments || Top||

#3  well, at least they know the answer.
Posted by: 2b || 10/15/2004 9:45 Comments || Top||

#4  I agree with Frank. Send them back in. Let them all suffer the consequences.
Posted by: anymouse || 10/15/2004 12:19 Comments || Top||

#5  "Unusually Fierce"
Excellent.
Also a good name for a pepper sauce.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/15/2004 14:15 Comments || Top||


Marines begin raids on Fallujah
U.S. Marines launched air and ground attacks yesterday on the rebel bastion Fallujah after city representatives suspended peace talks with the government over Prime Minister Iyad Allawi's demand to hand over terror mastermind Abu Musab Zarqawi.

More in link
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/15/2004 2:30:48 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [252 views] Top|| File under:

#1  good luck! Stay Safe! God Bless!
Posted by: 2b || 10/15/2004 3:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Ground attacks? Where? What part? What effect?

Damnit, I hate these cluster-fuck news-roundup crap articles. Report on the phricking Green Zone attack. Full stop. Then, in a separate story, report on the sustained / renewed / increased / whatever action in Fafuckingllujah, idiots. What sort of dipshit J-School AP Stylebook Bullshit is this? One thing is certain - it sucks as journalism.

"Abu Asaad, spokesman for the religious council of Fallujah, said that 'handing over Zarqawi' was an 'impossible condition' since even the Americans were unable to catch him."

Uh, really? Why's that? The two are not related - and the US has not yet (maybe happening now, finally) had the green light to reduce Fallujah and see, after the fun is finished, if ol' Zarqi's remains can be ID'd. I'll bet he's enroute to wherever he thinks he can ride this out right this minute.

"'Since we exhausted all peaceful solutions, the city is now ready to bear arms and defend its religion and honor and it's not afraid of Allawi's statements,' Mr. Asaad said in an interview with Al Jazeera television."

Uh, huh. Musta been one of those cell-phone exclusives, since Al Jizz is still banned, right?

I'm bettin' the baby duck, puppy, and kitten supply will be heavily reduced when the 'honor' of the 'Slamists gets whacked. By all means - everyone inclined to do so should bear arms and fight. Makes it easier to pacify if all the asshats die in the confrontation. 'Too stupid to live' is the phrase that comes to mind - right after target-rich environment, that is.
Posted by: .com || 10/15/2004 5:07 Comments || Top||

#3  The US military must love it that these journalists are so enept. They probably pay the bar bill at the hotels just to keep them there.

Their idea of "reporting" is log into Defense.mil and call Dr. Graves at the hospital to get the latest body count...which they seem to report with morbid glee.

But I HATE IT. WHAT'S GOING ON!!!!
Posted by: 2b || 10/15/2004 5:13 Comments || Top||

#4  Damnit, I hate these cluster-fuck news-roundup crap articles. Report on the phricking Green Zone attack. Full stop. Then, in a separate story, report on the sustained / renewed / increased / whatever action in Fafuckingllujah, idiots. What sort of dipshit J-School AP Stylebook Bullshit is this? One thing is certain - it sucks as journalism.

I absolutely, 100% agree. So there.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 10/15/2004 9:44 Comments || Top||

#5  These are probes and recon in force.

They are not ht emain effort. If anything, they may be distractions, to allow Ramadi, Hit or Buquoaba to be set up for a surprise hammerblow from inside and out like Samarra, without news cameras or clues issued to people inside.
Posted by: OldSpook || 10/15/2004 9:49 Comments || Top||

#6  OS 's take sounds right - misdirection and softening up. Sends a message and keeps the pressure on. Is there a town with a more fatalistic name than Hit? Oh yeah, the Iranian quake town, Bam LOL
Posted by: Frank G || 10/15/2004 9:52 Comments || Top||

#7  This is it, the NEWS, resumpsution of April's clean up.
Posted by: Slinerong Chomoque1551 || 10/15/2004 10:44 Comments || Top||

#8  One thing that works aains tthis being the main effort is the reports say there is only one battalion of Marines involved.

If this were the main effort, there would be a brigade's worth of forces there, plus 2 or so Iraqi battalions to clear the "sensitive" reas liek the Mosques, and for rear security.

The Marines would at least have a few companies to a battalion or more, of US Army heavy vehicles (Abrahms tanks, Bradley AFVs) cross attached for the urban fighting they are doing, like they did in An Najaf.

If you see Army troops turning up and Iraqi battalion in the mix, then you know its the main effort, or at least they are serious about going into "indian country" and clearing chunks of it out.
Posted by: OldSpook || 10/15/2004 11:51 Comments || Top||

#9  thanks OS.
Posted by: 2b || 10/15/2004 12:11 Comments || Top||

#10  CNN reports Marines and Iraqi forces have set up checkpoints around the city. Hat tip Command Post.

Another story from CP said 1000 troops in the assualt. That would be the 1 marine battalion, I guess, plus some Iraqi forces.

This may not be the main effort, but it looks like a very serious battlefield preparation effort.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 10/15/2004 13:18 Comments || Top||

#11  Bang! Just kidding!
This is it!
Bang! Nope.

Get 'em looking around and jumpy. If there is a major assault we won't here about it for 72 hours.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/15/2004 14:20 Comments || Top||

#12  And of course the media will only tell us how many troops died instead of telling us about the success.
Posted by: Quarterdeck || 10/15/2004 14:22 Comments || Top||

#13  If there is a major assault we won't here about it for 72 hours.


They'll be using the Stealth Strykers.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 10/15/2004 14:23 Comments || Top||

#14  AFP reports - US is asking UK to redeploy troops from the quiet south, possibly to Baghdad, to free up US troops for Fallujah or elsewhere.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 10/15/2004 14:57 Comments || Top||

#15  Nope, the MSM won't be able to Tet-Tet this one. Uncle Walter was deemed credible by a majority of US viewers in 1968; DanBlather's considered a joke by most network viewers today, who themselves are a diminishing minority. I haven't seen a network newscast in about seven years.

No, this time, our troops' victory will not be unspun.
Posted by: lex || 10/15/2004 15:09 Comments || Top||

#16  I mean, will not be spun, and undone.
Posted by: lex || 10/15/2004 15:10 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
Five terrorists, civilian killed in overnight IAF Gaza raids
Five terror operatives and one civilian were killed overnight in IAF strikes across the Gaza Strip. Three Hamas operatives were killed in two raids in the northern Gaza Strip: Two were killed by an IAF missile fired at a group of armed Palestinians at the Jebalya refugee camp, while a third Hamas terrorist was gunned down in Beit Lahiya. In addition, Palestinian sources reported that three Palestinians were killed in a third IAF raid overnight at the Rafah refugee camp, in the southern Gaza Strip.

According to the sources, one of the fatalities in the Rafah raid was a 70-year-old civilian, while the other two were al-Aqsa Brigades operatives. The IDF said a gunship fired at a group that was spotted placing explosive charges. Earlier, At least two al-Aqsa Brigades operatives were killed after an IAF helicopter gun ship fired at a group of armed Palestinians that was spotted heading in the direction of IDF ground forces near the Jebalya refugee camp. The IDF has confirmed the report.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/15/2004 2:25:03 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [247 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What on earth was a 70 year old man doing hanging out with 'operatives' planting explosives? He should have been peacefully sleeping at home in bed with his wives.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/15/2004 6:57 Comments || Top||

#2  Ahm, 70 yrs old, maybe he couldn't.
Posted by: Memesis || 10/15/2004 6:58 Comments || Top||

#3  What, those bloody operatives were so noisy it kept him awake? In that case it was sheer kindness of the IDF to take care of the annoyance.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/15/2004 7:02 Comments || Top||

#4  "sleeping at home in bed with his wives"

That is the key here. :-)
Posted by: Memesis || 10/15/2004 7:08 Comments || Top||

#5  didn't this run yesterday? Or did they bag another bunch of Paleo terrorists and a 70 year old man?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/15/2004 8:16 Comments || Top||

#6  Why cannot a 70 yr. old man be a terrorist? Is there a terrorist age-limit that I am unaware of? Methinks obfuscatory language (Derrida's "infinite play of signs") is at work here...media also references any terrorist under the age of 21 as a "child"...
Posted by: borgboy || 10/15/2004 13:33 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Jihad Bombers kill 10 in Baghdad 'safe' zone
Suicide bombers penetrated the headquarters of allied forces in Iraq for the first time yesterday, killing 10 people and provoking an urgent review of security in Baghdad's Green Zone. Four American contract workers and six Iraqis died and at least 18 others were wounded when the bomb exploded at a crowded bazaar less than 200 yards from the US embassy. American personnel often shop there for souvenirs. A second killer struck at a popular cafe.

A contractor said the Green Zone Cafe had been blown to "smithereens" in the blast. "It doesn't exist anymore," he said. "Everyone in the cafe is in pieces. There are pieces of bodies everywhere." The American, whose office is across the street from the site of the first bomb, said he and his colleagues were forbidden by their company from using the cafe after a bomb was found outside weeks ago. However, he said, people had started filtering back in. Abdul Razak Mohammed, a waiter at the cafe, said two men, aged about 25, came in carrying bags. "One ordered tea," he said. "They were asked by another cafe employee if they were Iraqis and the man answered 'No, we're Jordanians'."
Umm, Abdul, that was a clue.

Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/15/2004 2:00:07 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [272 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I thought this comment from another article above said it better:

Following yesterday's attack, the U.S. military said intelligence reports indicated terrorists were planning more strikes to "gain media attention."
Posted by: 2b || 10/15/2004 3:36 Comments || Top||

#2  2b, yup. A feedback loop. MSM and terrs--on the same side.
Posted by: Memesis || 10/15/2004 3:41 Comments || Top||

#3  "Suicide bombers"

Ramadan starts today. Doesn't the MSM constantly tell us that Muslims's think that it's extra holy to die during Ramadan? If that was true, you would have thought that the bad guys could have waited another 24 hours. Maybe the bomber's controllers were in "use it or lose it" mode or maybe they needed a "victory" to show their supporters in an attempt to balance their asses being kicked for (at least) the last two weeks. In any case, I don't think that this was the terrorist's original timetable and that this smells of desperation as much as it does the death of innocent people.
Posted by: Dave || 10/15/2004 4:49 Comments || Top||


Doctor: Iraqi May Have Been Fatally Wounded
An Iraqi who was shot by a U.S. tank company commander now charged with murder appears to have been mortally wounded before the officer fired, a doctor testified Thursday. U.S. Army Capt. Rogelio Maynulet, 29, faces a possible court-martial for the May 21 death of a driver for militant Shiite leader Muqtada al-Sadr near Kufa, south of Baghdad. He denies the charges of murder and dereliction of duty. He was leading his 1st Armored Division tank company on a patrol when it came across a BMW sedan believed to be carrying al-Sadr militiamen and a chase ensued. U.S. soldiers fired at the vehicle, wounding both the driver and passenger.

As hearings to determine whether Maynulet should be court-martialed concluded, a U.S. military surgeon told the court he had repeatedly viewed the incident in footage recorded by an American drone aircraft. Maj. Robert Knetsche said he could not determine conclusively whether body movements by the wounded driver were voluntary, or involuntary after he was brain dead. But he added, "I think that he had lethal injuries." Speaking of Maynulet, he said: "I think what he did was an act of mercy."
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Posted by: Steve White || 10/15/2004 1:24:11 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [277 views] Top|| File under:

#1  When: June, 1972
Where: the road to An Loc, then under siege by the North Vietnamese army.
What: An ambush and airstrike, a dust-off mission by a young warrant officer,
Who: an NVA regular with napalm burns over 90% of his body, eyes gone, bleeding from shrapnel and bullet wounds but still alive-----and begging for water----and to be killed.

What would you have done?
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 10/15/2004 1:57 Comments || Top||

#2  It is beyond belief that this US soldier is being persecuted for his act of mercy. What should he have done? take pictures, ask for a signed order, bring multiple witnesses and wait for their unanimous consent?

Someone must have accused him. Who?

AtoCon: without hesitation, water, and mercy.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 10/15/2004 2:35 Comments || Top||

#3  [P]rosecutor Capt. Dan Sennott maintained that it was not certain that the driver was dead when Maynulet shot him

Er, yeah. That's why Maynulet calls it a "mercy". It's pretty hard to kill a dead guy.
Posted by: beer_me || 10/15/2004 3:16 Comments || Top||

#4  Respectfully, Kalle, I disagree.

Our military holds its officers to high standards - and that is at the core of its professionalism. I don't know the facts in this case, but even mercy killings need to be examined carefully to be sure we are not giving a green light to acts that are unethical or against agreements we've made (Geneva Conventions).

I hope this young captain is cleared, assuming the testimony supports that. But I support the official inquiry. To do otherwise is to undermine the morale, discipline and accountability of our forces.
Posted by: rkb || 10/15/2004 5:40 Comments || Top||

#5  I know the folks at TalkLeft were incensed when this first came out.
What would be their view of Dr. Kevorkian, I wonder.
Posted by: Richard Aubrey || 10/15/2004 7:43 Comments || Top||

#6  AC: An NVA? I would have left him to die on his own.
Posted by: BH || 10/15/2004 9:26 Comments || Top||


$30M Of Smack Seized From Sadr
Coalition troops have seized $30 million worth of heroin intended for sale on Iraqi streets by rebel cleric Muqtada al-Sadr's militia, the former commander of the 9,000-strong Polish force in south-central Iraq says. Lt. Gen. Mieczyslav Bieniek said the militia was using the drug profits "to pay for action" against coalition forces and that some members of the Mahdi's Army were "under the influence [while] fighting us." The Polish commander was in Washington last week and said that the heroin trade was so pervasive that militia members were known as the "pink army" — named after the red plastic bags they use to peddle the drugs...
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/15/2004 11:51:41 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [244 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I don't pretend to be an authority, but isn't using drugs as "un-Islamic" as using liquor?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/15/2004 0:04 Comments || Top||

#2  Along with Al Guardian, Sadr was obviously an "interested party" in the American election, and this material was intended for his Democrat voter registration drive.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 10/15/2004 0:16 Comments || Top||

#3  Not sure Allah revealed the mysteries to heroin to Mohammed. One of the perils of having perfect, amber frozen knowledge revealed in the 7th century.
Posted by: ed || 10/15/2004 0:25 Comments || Top||

#4  Boy, is this guy Holy or what?
Posted by: .com || 10/15/2004 1:33 Comments || Top||

#5  .com, Yup. But more like Holy Shi'te.
Posted by: Memesis || 10/15/2004 2:39 Comments || Top||

#6  Memesis - Lol! Nice turn o' phrase, heh.
Posted by: .com || 10/15/2004 4:33 Comments || Top||

#7  mem...lol! Looks like the price of oil isn't the only thing going up.
Posted by: 2b || 10/15/2004 5:48 Comments || Top||

#8  It has been a practice for thousands of years in Islam to use drugs when fighting in Jihad. The word assin comes from the word hashishim. They jihadis would get tanked up on hashish befrore they fought.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 10/15/2004 8:56 Comments || Top||

#9  Wow, white slag. Next up, Iraqi juche.
Posted by: Sparks || 10/15/2004 10:48 Comments || Top||

#10  Nothing like a little horse to while away the long Ramadan day.
Posted by: eLarson || 10/15/2004 14:42 Comments || Top||

#11  For years Islamic Terrorist Inc. has financed it various continues campaigns of terror through the illegal international narcotics trade. Lebanon, and Afghanistan/Pakistani border being principal growing regions.

Far above the money raised for Islamic terrorist groups through illegal narcotics is crude oil sales from such nations as Iran and Saudi Arabia. 'Legally earning billions by pro-jihad dictatorships keeps the world's jihadist groups supplied with cash, arms and training.

There is a working solution to greatly curbing the pratice of 'petrol-profit-funding' of global jihad. All that is lacking is the will.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/15/2004 18:03 Comments || Top||



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