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Soddy shura member iced
Saudi Arabia has said it killed a senior member of the al Qaida terrorist network, the Middle East Newsline reported Saturday. Saudi officials said Abdul Majid Bin Mohammed Abdullah Al Muni was a member of al Qaida's Shura Council and the chief ideologue of the movement. The council was said to determine the policy of the al Qaida network in its campaign against the Arab kingdom. Al Muni was No. 18 on the Interior Ministry's list of 26 top al Qaida terrorists. The ministry said Muni and two other operatives -- Issam Bin Muqbil Al Otaibi and Abdul Hamid Bin Abdul Aziz Al Yehya -- were killed in a clash with authorities Oct. 12 in Riyadh, near a foreign housing compound.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/17/2004 3:24:42 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [602 views] Top|| File under:

Saudi security forces arrest two wanted militants
Saudi security forces arrested two wanted militants after an exchange of fire in a district of eastern Riyadh early Saturday, an interior ministry spokesman said. "Two militants wanted by security authorities were arrested after an exchange of fire at dawn today, during which one of the two was lightly wounded," Mansur al-Turki told AFP. The shootout occurred when security forces raided a suspected hideout in the Al-Khaleej district, he said. Two other suspected militants were arrested in a separate operation early Tuesday in Tamir, 90 kilometers (55 miles) north of Riyadh, Turki said.
Posted by: Fred || 10/17/2004 11:39:00 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [397 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "...Saudi security forces arrested two wanted militants..."
Fred, I don't understand why this sort of activity highlights the front page? These 'nickel & dime' operations by the Saudis on their penny any terror operatives can only be placation! At this rate, it will take them 100 years to round up the bad apples!!
Posted by: smn || 10/17/2004 0:25 Comments || Top||

#2  Fred posts this kind of article because it's his site.

Because Rantburg is a roundup of events in the War on Terror.

Because even a story of the arrest of a couple of cannon fodder militants operatives has much information that is relevant; the area of town where they're caught, the importance of the official spokesman, whether or not there was a protracted gun battle or secondary explosion of a weapons cache. Sometimes, what's not said in the article is more important than what gets published.

A note here: Fred used to be in military intel; he 'splained part of the process to us once: the analyst reads a document, makes his notes on post-it notes, and sends it around the office. Eventually it comes back with more notes attached, and more analysis is done. Rantburg works a lot like that...every contributor has the option of adding his observations to the article before posting, and the other analysts (the Rantburg readership) add their commentary.

This site only came into existence because of 9/11/01; we are the 93rd Volunteer Civilian Wing of the DIA, if you will.

But back to your question, Fred posted this article because, well, he can.
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/17/2004 2:07 Comments || Top||

#3  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Snereck Thrush8432 TROLL || 10/17/2004 6:55 Comments || Top||

#4  Clean up isle 2!

Look you troll why do you even bother comming here? I mean you end up in the bit bucket in short order. Your posts are designed to deface the site. You my non-friend are the one who should worry about being prosecuted. I am sure your ISP would love to hear how you are violating their TOS. You have already been kicked off a few haven't you Boris. You have been requested to not use page widening formatting but you persist. That is willful defacement.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 10/17/2004 7:03 Comments || Top||

#5  We have KerryHeads in the wire. Sound the alarm.
Posted by: badanov || 10/17/2004 7:03 Comments || Top||

#6  You know what I would like to read is how the House of Saud took one of their princes out and shot him for supporting and funding these terrorist larpos. It's not going to happen but it would be nice.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 10/17/2004 7:50 Comments || Top||

#7  SPo'D - Doa search on "Death of a Princess" - it was a BBC doco from way back - to see what actually moves the Saudis to act. Here's the pic of the brave House of Saud in action.
Posted by: .com || 10/17/2004 8:21 Comments || Top||

#8  SPoD,
Why one, why not all of them?
Posted by: Memesis || 10/17/2004 8:23 Comments || Top||

#9  The elite Pink Mist detail. Brave troops.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 10/17/2004 12:55 Comments || Top||

#10  I'm still praying for a small meteorite (~1km in diameter, specific density ~16.4, speed ~30K km/hr) to impact on the royal palace in Riyadh at 2:30AM local time. The resulting hole in the ground will either fill with water or oil - no big deal either way. The resulting hole in the funding of islamofascists may never be filled. The sanity quotient of the entire Middle East, on the other hand, may go up four or five points.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/17/2004 19:02 Comments || Top||

#11  OP, then you run the risk of creating the 1,783,204th holiest site in Islam.
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/17/2004 20:21 Comments || Top||

#12  Let alone giving them another 10,000 black rocks to put a tent around!
Posted by: smn || 10/17/2004 22:42 Comments || Top||

#13  Right, Fred can do whatever he wants until he gets prosecuted for inciting hate and endangering Americans on US soil.
Posted by: Snereck Thrush8432 || 10/17/2004 6:55 Comments || Top||

Territorial army infiltrated by al-Qaeda
THE Territorial Army has been infiltrated by Al-Qaeda suspects, giving the Islamic terrorist group potential access to military bases, explosives and fuel dumps. Five Al-Qaeda suspects are believed to have trained as part-time soldiers with the TA. At least one is now in custody. The Ministry of Defence (MoD) has confirmed that other terror suspects have attempted to join the TA, but says they were rejected after undergoing security checks.

The connection with Britain's Al-Qaeda network was uncovered in a series of wide-ranging investigations by MI5 and Scotland Yard's Special Branch. It is believed the terrorist suspects may have been taking advantage of military training as well as gaining access to bases and weapons. Patrick Mercer, the Tory homeland security spokesman and a former army officer, said Al-Qaeda terrorists could use TA passes to penetrate security at key MoD establishments such as the permanent joint headquarters at Northwood in Greater London. "This could have very serious security implications. Clearly in the war against terror you need to know who your friends are. The last thing we want is the enemy masquerading as our own people," Mercer said.

The TA has about 41,000 members and comprises a substantial portion of the 102,000-strong British Army and has 329 centres throughout the country. Most recruits have access to small arms and undergo infantry training. Security experts say while such access may be limited, terrorists could get greater benefit from targeting selected units such the Intelligence Corps, the Royal Engineers and logistics units. The TA's Royal Engineers would give them access to explosives. The Royal Logistics Corps would provide access to military fuel dumps and a fleet of tankers. Many army tanker drivers now on duty in Iraq are TA soldiers.More than 7,000 have been called up to serve in Iraq — the largest deployment in its 97-year history.
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Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/17/2004 3:12:38 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [289 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It has already been stated elsewhere, the more we wait the more dangerous it becomes for all Western homelands. Hence we need to seriously consider making public, explicit threats, such as:

- Moslems in the West being warned that should any horrific attack take place on the part of local Islamofascists all local Moslems will be put in detention camps -- and deported if they are 1st-gen immigrants.

- Unfriendly Moslem countries must be warned that any attack that can be traced back to their own people will be met with a nuke, Tell them which city goes first, e.g. Mecca, Cairo, Damascus, Tehran, etc.

We can not tolerate a permanent sword of Damocles, without announcing that we will make all further attacks extremely painful to the Moslems. Either they join in fighting the Islamofascists that thrive in their midst, or they become the enemy.

Time is running out. So far we have not seen the Moslems joining in the fight against Islamofascism, except for the courageous Iraqis in their new police and army forces. Much much more is needed.

I want to see Moslems demonstrating in the mall, shouting in the street, speaking out everywhere. Not constantly complaining about "discrimination" but joining us in the war! If they can. If they will.

I want them to denounce the monsters in their communities. We know such are there.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 10/17/2004 21:12 Comments || Top||

Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Rebels with conflicting causes
Low whistles sound across the scruffy courtyard as the residents of Grozny doze through a sticky, mosquito-filled night. The men guarding this apartment building are signaling to one another that all is clear. They're not police or regular soldiers but lookouts for a Wahhabi Jamaat, an urban guerrilla group of about 20 men loyal to Chechen rebel commander Shamil Basayev. Unlike other Chechens fighting purely for their republic's independence, the Wahhabis want to create an Islamic state across the Caucasus and are almost fundamentalist in their outlook. They are deeply critical of the easygoing approach of more secular Chechen Muslims — and they are feared for their ruthlessness.

The leader of this Wahhabi Jamaat is Jamal, a former welder in his forties. His past alcoholism shows on his ravaged face. The apartment is hot and muggy, the plastic sheets that serve as windows rustle in the wind and a sour smell drifts from the toilet. Most of Grozny has electricity these days, but four years after Russian air strikes practically razed the city there is still no running water. The atmosphere is sour, too. Gathered in the apartment are members of the two main anti-Russian factions: the Wahhabis and those aligned with Aslan Maskhadov, the Chechen President overthrown by the Russians in 2000. Jamal knows he can trust the non-Wahhabi resistance not to betray him. But Maskhadov's men emphasize their disdain for the Wahhabi prohibition on alcohol and tobacco by drinking vodka and smoking cigarettes as Jamal talks.

In late August, when guerrillas cordoned off parts of Grozny and killed at least 50 officials and paramilitaries associated with the Kremlin-backed government, Jamal's men were in the thick of things. His men are mostly in their twenties, unemployed and poorly educated, some of them former drug addicts who've gone straight under the influence of their new beliefs. They helped destroy two armored personnel carriers. But Jamal doesn't want to discuss in detail the Wahhabi's tactics. "The less you say, the longer you live," he remarks. He does hint at a highly secretive, tightly compartmentalized organization. "A man comes from time to time and passes on instructions," he says.

The Wahhabis and the Maskhadov wing of the resistance tolerate, help and protect each other, but they don't like each other much. One of the people listening to Jamal is Aslan, a senior officer in the anti-Russian forces during the first Chechen war from 1994 to 1996. He's clearly still in touch with Maskhadov's guerrillas. Aslan recalls that after the first war, he and other officers suspicious of the Wahhabis' growing clout volunteered to help wipe them out. Maskhadov seemed to agree with the idea, Aslan says, but ultimately, "he was too cowardly to give us the order." These days, the Wahhabis are clearly the more powerful of the two rebel factions.

Despite Moscow's claims that life in Chechnya is returning to normal, clashes between guerrillas and Russian forces take place daily. The day after the meeting with Jamal, the Russians announced that they were on the verge of capturing Maskhadov in a major operation south of the capital. Yet that very day, a senior Maskhadov commander felt comfortable enough to stop for a quick chat a short distance from the battle. "I don't think he's in any danger," the fighter said casually of his boss. Sure enough, Maskhadov escaped. If the guerrillas sound increasingly confident, the Russians sound more and more nervous. "On the surface the situation looks fine," says one Russian colonel. "But it could blow at any moment."
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/17/2004 3:28:20 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [252 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Low whistles sound across the scruffy courtyard as the residents of Grozny doze through a sticky, mosquito-filled night.

lemme guess...BBC? NPR? Time?

I swear I think there is just one guy who writes all this "dark and stormy night" crap. Sadly, it's just not the same without the sound clips of babies crying, sheep bleating and the sounds of foreign women talking as they clank on pans.
Posted by: 2b || 10/17/2004 21:14 Comments || Top||

Beslan thugs were druggies
All terrorists from the Beslan school siege were drug addictives, as forensics expertise of their bodies has shown after the end of the three-day drama, Russian Deputy Chief Prosecutor Nikolay Shapel announced. They were all used to taking drugs, and especially injecting the "hard" heroin and morphine, the prosecutor office's press release read. Some blood concentrations of drugs found during autopsy of terrorists' bodies far exceeded the usual deadly dose. Investigative officials believed that at some time the terrorists finished their drugs and plunged into abstinence characterized by aggression and empty-minded behaviour.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/17/2004 2:35:59 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [264 views] Top|| File under:

5 Arabs involved in Beslan
Russia has concluded that at least five Arab nationals participated in the bloody takeover of a high school in August. Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov said an investigation determined that five Arab nationals participated in the Beslan attack by Al Qaida-aligned insurgents. Ivanov, in an address to the NATO-Russia Council in Romania on Oct. 14, would not identify the Arab nationals or their native countries. In September, Russian officials said that at least 10 of the 32 attackers in Beslan were Arab nationals. The Arabs were identified as coming from Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Syria. Ivanov told the meeting that the Chechen revolt contained a large number of Arab and other foreign nationalities. He said up to 200 foreigners were fighting Russian troops in Chechnya.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/17/2004 3:30:49 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [270 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Arabs were identified as coming from Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Syria.

seems a bit too convenient for my tastes.
Posted by: 2b || 10/17/2004 21:21 Comments || Top||

Down Under
Brigitte spills beans on Aussie terror plan
WILLIE Brigitte has told French investigators of his extraordinary journey from failed butcher to linchpin in an al-Qaida plan to launch a terror attack on Australia.

He has detailed the high-altitude paramilitary training he undertook in a vast camp overlooking the Himalaya in which he and thousands of other jihad warriors were schooled in terrorism.

And he has told of how Osama bin Laden's allies have penetrated the Pakistani Army to thwart US efforts to crack terrorist training operations in the remote Pakistani mountain regions that border Afghanistan.

A year after the French national was captured in a western Sydney apartment with documents indicating he was planning to launch an attack on Australian targets, his interrogation transcripts can be revealed in detail for the first time.

The transcripts give a rare insight into the networks of people prepared to join the global Islamist jihad against the West.

Brigitte told investigators the camp where he was trained in the use of explosives, small arms and terror tactics was a sophisticated three-tiered mountain complex close to the Indo-Pakistani border.

Brigitte was grouped with other foreign recruits, including American and British citizens of Pakistani origin.

"There were between 2000 and 3000 mujahidins," Brigitte told French anti-terror judge Jean-Louis Bruguiere.

"I remember it was very impressive because we gathered every morning and shouted Allah Akbar (God is Great). What was more, the site was imposing since one could see the outline of the Himalaya."

The camp was run by Lashkar e Toiba or Army of the Pure, an al-Qaida affiliated terror network that emerged in the late 1980s from an insurgency campaign to wrest Kashmir from Indian control.

Brigitte said LET was filled with soldiers from the Pakistani Army whose government has vowed to lead the battle against terrorism in this strife-torn tribal region.

But Brigitte said the Pakistani soldiers worked to sabotage efforts by the West to fight bin Laden and his allies.

"There was complete complicity between Lashkar e Toiba and the Pakistani Army," Brigitte said in a secret interrogation in the Paris judicial chambers of Mr Bruguiere on December 3 last year.

"Furthermore, the weapons were provided by the army. The munitions were brought in by night between the first and second levels (of the camp).

"There was everything — munitions, arms and food. We had the feeling that these weapons came from the Pakistani Army.

"There were American M16s, French FAMS, kalashnikovs and makarovs. All the identification numbers had previously been removed."

Brigitte said that, on several occasions, he was ordered to remove any evidence of military activity. The camp leaders had been warned a raid by a coalition of CIA agents and Pakistani soldiers was imminent.

"I can remember four raids by the Pakistani Army," Brigitte said. "They always asked the foreign volunteers, of whom I was one, to clean up the camp and particularly to collect the cartridge cases and cartridges.

"There were no more than 15 Pakistani soldiers who came to carry out these checks with the same number of Americans.

"We were told that they were CIA agents who had come to check for the presence of foreign mujahidins."

Brigitte stayed at the camp for six weeks before returning to Paris early in 2002.

According to his flatmate in Paris, Ibrahim Keita, Brigitte had returned under orders to organise a sleeper cell in the French capital.

"Brigitte did explain to me that he had been sent back to France in order to make contact with a certain number of people," Keita told Judge Bruguiere.

"They were individuals who had either already fought or who had taken training in camps like him as I understood it."

Keita confirmed that during this time Brigitte had again borrowed 100 Euros, explaining that "he had combatants to look after".

Brigitte was acting under orders from his mentor at the LET camp, known as Sajid Abu Braa, a 30-year-old Pakistan Army soldier in charge of foreign recruits to the jihad cause.

Abu Braa, who travelled with two personal bodyguards, was a close associate of the camp's leader, known only as Zakerahmane, who in Afghanistan was bin Laden's right-hand man.

Keita said when Brigitte was in Australia, he contacted him and asked him to join him in a terror plot. He said was not specific about the nature of the planned attack.

Brigitte was arrested at his Wiley Park flat on October 9. Officials found maps of Australian nuclear sites, including the Lucas Heights reactor in Sydney's south and the Perth headquarters of Australia's elite SAS unit.

He was repatriated to France on October 17, where he remains imprisoned in Paris's Fleury Merogis Jail, under investigation for conspiring to commit acts of terror.

His lawyers are attempting to challenge his imprisonment on the technical issue of how he was repatriated to France.
Posted by: tipper || 10/17/2004 8:17:30 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [261 views] Top|| File under:

#1  we gathered every morning and shouted Allah Akbar Now Bridgette daily sings the soprano part of , "the hills are alive, with the sound of music."
Posted by: 2b || 10/17/2004 21:30 Comments || Top||

Switzerland Deports Lebanese Hijacker
A Lebanese hijacker who served 17 years in a Swiss prison for killing a passenger and seriously wounding a flight attendant in 1987 has been released and deported to Lebanon, officials said Sunday. Hussein Hariri agreed to immediate deportation and was sent to Beirut Tuesday on a chartered plane with two other Lebanese who had been living in Switzerland illegally, said Dominique Boillat, spokesman for the Federal Refugee Office, confirming a report in the weekly Le Matin Dimanche.
Sigh, terrorists, what a nuisance.
Hariri was sentenced to life in prison after he commandeered an Air Afrique DC-10 flying from Brazzaville, Republic of Congo, to Paris on July 23, 1987. He demanded the release of Lebanese and Palestinian prisoners held by France, West Germany and Israel. Hariri, who was 21 at the time of the hijacking, wanted to be flown to Beirut but agreed to a refueling stop in Geneva where he shot dead a French passenger when his deadline for refueling expired. Swiss police stormed the plane and arrested Hariri after crew members overpowered him. A flight attendant was shot and seriously injured when he tackled Hariri. During his 1989 trial, Hariri told the court he was a "soldier of God" and did not want to kill. He refused to testify about allegations he was on a mission for the Iranian-backed Hezbollah. Life sentences in Switzerland usually last 20 years.
Makes you wonder how long death lasts in Switzerland...
Le Matin reported Hariri would have been eligible for release last spring, but he was held six months longer because he had escaped to Morocco during a 2002 prison furlough. He was held in a Moroccan jail for several months before being returned to Switzerland in August 2003. He also escaped from Swiss prison in 1992, but was recaptured a week later.
That also makes me wonder if dead people get furloughs from their condition in Switzerland.
Posted by: Fred || 10/17/2004 12:32:11 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [252 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What are the Swiss thinking? Here you have someone that put everyone on the plane in danger, murdered someone in cold blood, and gets out in 17 years. Letting a murderer out on a prison furlough is also insane on the part of the authorities. The Swiss authorities are getting to be as bad as the American judges and parole authorities. This is just another example of the liberal mindset. What about the victims, what about the general public's safety?

The problem is that people like Hariri are broken people, vermin if you like. They are not able to be rehabilitated. Hariri needed an early release, all right, over the Med at 12,000 ft, so he could think about his sins for a good minute before he became crab bait.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 10/17/2004 13:06 Comments || Top||

#2  served 17 years in a Swiss prison for killing a passenger and seriously wounding a flight attendant
Excellent nuance here, if we'd just learn to emulate the Swiss.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/17/2004 13:11 Comments || Top||

#3  Swiss law allows for max 20 years sentence (what they call "life") no matter what the crime. I'm surprised they kept him for a whole 17.

Don't when the 20y limit was chosen. Should they keep it, at least they could increase by one year for each additional 3mo of average annual increased life expectancy. The last 50 years would have added about 200 to the limit...
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 10/17/2004 14:39 Comments || Top||

#4  Heck, guys, I'm all for repatriating all these poor Muslim souls in European prisons. I'd even volunteer the United States Air Force for the job! Can you imagine how many of them we could stuff aboard a C-5?. Fly them out of Frankfurt to Damascus, by the planeload.

Of course, since the people of Damascus aren't exactly friendly, we may have a problem landing and escorting them off. One of our airplanes might get shot at! I suggest, as a safety factor, that we allow deplaning from 26,000 feet. Just open up the cattle chute cargo ramp, and herd 'em off, possessions and all. Heck, the smart ones might even think to bring a parachute!
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/17/2004 19:10 Comments || Top||

#5  Switzerland didn't lose a hijacker. Lebanon Hezbollah gained a new national hero.

Kudos to the flight crew.
Posted by: ed || 10/17/2004 19:16 Comments || Top||

#6  OP, Rather than herd them of like cattle, treat them humanely. After dropping the ramp, simply ascend rapidly to 35,000 feet.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 10/17/2004 19:28 Comments || Top||

Home Front: WoT
1,000 Colorado Green Berets Headed To Middle East
More than 1,000 soldiers from the 10th Special Forces Group will deploy to the Middle East this fall, The Gazette reported Saturday. The newspaper said several Army sources had confirmed the deployment, though how long the troops will be gone and exactly where they are headed was not disclosed. Maj. Rob Gowan, spokesman for U.S. Army Special Forces Command at Fort Bragg, N.C., said the force has traditionally kept troop movements confidential. The Special Forces soldiers from Fort Carson have already gone to Iraq and Afghanistan, though in smaller numbers, The Gazette reported. The Army needs specially trained soldiers like the Green Berets to handle insurgents during the preparation for elections in Iraq, said John Pike, executive director of the GlobalSecurity.org think tank. "This is precisely the war they were designed to fight," Pike said. "You know they must be in Iraq, but you don't hear a breath about them."

Fort Carson also is preparing to 7,000 other soldiers to Iraq, including 1,800 from the 43rd Area Support Group and 5,200 from the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment. The Fort Carson Special Forces have deployed several times in recent years, including as peacekeepers in Bosnia in 1995 and military trainers in the Republic of Georgia in 2002. In addition to specializing in training foreign forces, they also are known for helping communities with medical care and construction expertise. "It's sort of an integrated counterinsurgency capability, and counterinsurgency is what we need over there," Pike said.
But then again, what if they are not heading to Iraq? Or Afghanistan?
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/17/2004 5:59:46 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [400 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Interesting.How many extra troops were sent to Afghanistan ? Nil I think,as they redistributed troops for security of the elections.
Posted by: crazyhorse || 10/18/2004 0:02 Comments || Top||

#2  Pankisi Gorge?
Posted by: lex || 10/18/2004 12:27 Comments || Top||

#3  ME, lex....I'm hoping Syria or Lebanon....Iran will be too radioactive
Posted by: Frank G || 10/18/2004 12:37 Comments || Top||

Feds raid Islam 'relief agency'
The Missouri-based Islamic America Relief Agency, raided this week by federal, state and local law enforcement, is being tied to terror groups internationally, including Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network. Thirteen police agencies, including Columbia, Mo., police, the U.S. Secret Service, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Joint Terrorism Task Force, joined in the raid.

While the IARA maintains it was founded in 1985 to provide health-care services and emergency relief to refugees and orphaned children, the Treasury Department said the group has been tied to some 40 terror organizations worldwide, including al-Qaida and the Taliban.

FBI agents removed computers, file cabinets, a fax machine and several boxes of files and documents. They also seized cars, but no arrests were made. Agents said the raid was part of a long-running, ongoing investigation of the agency. Last week, the Justice Department blocked "all accounts, funds and assets" of the IARA and its affiliates in the United States.

U.S. law enforcement officials say overseas branches of the group provided "hundreds of thousands of dollars" to Bin Laden in 1999. The Treasury Department also maintains the group was responsible for laundering money for the Palestinian territories to support terrorist activities. Sources say the group has been used by terror-supporting states, including Sudan, to spread radical Islam.

The search extended to two homes, one in Columbia and the other in Connecticut, according to law enforcement officials.

The charity found itself under scrutiny in 2001 when federal prosecutors, during a trial in New York, alleged that Ziyad Khalil, a former Columbia College student with connections to the agency, bought a $7,500 satellite telephone later used by bin Laden to organize the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Tanzania and Kenya. Newsweek reported in February 2000 that Khalil had been detained in Jordan and provided FBI agents with critical information about bin Laden's U.S. operations.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/17/2004 2:45:57 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [255 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I read an article this week about Muslims being afraid to contribute to Islamic charities for fear they would be stereotyped as terror contributors. Sounds like the shoe fits, huh?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/17/2004 15:05 Comments || Top||

#2  Let them use the money to ensure all the young men have job skills and all the girls have dowries. After their own are taken care of they can help the next community over, or sponsor English and high school equivalency classes for the adults, so they can help their children with their homework. After they've ensured their own won't be a burden on the community, then they can think about supporting jihadis abroad.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/17/2004 16:21 Comments || Top||

#3  Shut them all down. Islam is one of the most intolerant religions around. It is time we stopped being politicallly correct and treated this problem for it is--a war and they are the ones trying to kill us.
Posted by: Douglas De Bono || 10/17/2004 19:33 Comments || Top||

Islamic Serial Killer Zarqawi Claims 11 Beheadings
A statement attributed to Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi's militant group claims it has beheaded 11 members of the Iraqi police and national guard. "Today alone, your brethren were able to decapitate 11 apostates ... affiliated to the so-called national guard and police force," said the statement attributed to the military wing of the Tawhid wal Jihad (Unity and Holy War) group. The authenticity of the statement which was posted on an Islamist website could not be confirmed and the claim has not been verified.

The statement did not give details, but a headline introducing it said the group had "killed 11 apostates" on Baghdad's Haifa street, the site of frequent clashes between US forces and insurgents. Zarqawi is blamed for some of the deadliest bombings in Iraq and for beheading foreign hostages and Iraqis accused of collaborating with US-led forces. He has a $US25 million bounty on his head. The US military in Iraq has denied reports that he has been detained. A spokesman in Baghdad said he had heard the reports, but did not believe they were true.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/17/2004 5:25:42 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [265 views] Top|| File under:

#1  he still has a few million to go before he can even get close to that other serial killer and false prophet Muhammad....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/17/2004 17:39 Comments || Top||

#2  How about when we capture him (assuming he's still alive, which I hope he isn't), we behead him 11 times.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/17/2004 18:27 Comments || Top||

#3  Billy the Kid killed about 21 IIRC. Zarkawi will eventually be caught and killed. It is just a matter of time. If caught alive, he will need to be hung and stuck on a lamp post for awhile. Sure got a rise out of people when Usay and Qusay got popped and photo-opped. Heh heh.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 10/17/2004 18:42 Comments || Top||

#4  My wife says... use the ancient Chinese mercury (skinning) torture on Zarqawi.
Maximize pain and duration.
Posted by: 3dc || 10/17/2004 18:44 Comments || Top||

#5  About time for someone to give him up.This may happen if and when Marines penetrate deeper into the city.
Posted by: crazyhorse || 10/17/2004 18:51 Comments || Top||

#6  Like his mentor Osama, this pervert will wind up as a smear on a wall courtesy of JDAM.
Posted by: RWV || 10/17/2004 19:58 Comments || Top||

US forces arrest spokesman for the Fallujah delegation
US forces arrested Khalid Al-Jumaili, spokesman for the Fallujah city delegation in the talks with the Iraqi interim government Friday afternoon according to sources. No further details were revealed, but a source close to the Iraqi police told Kuwait News Agency (KUNA) the US Marines have also arrested the Fallujah police commander with Jumaili. Jumaili has said that the Iraqi government was pushing for a military standoff saying that handing over Abu Musaab Al-Zarkawi was impossible because the terror suspect was not inside the city. The Iraqi government had stipulated the handing over of Zarkawi and his insurgents to avoid attacking Fallujah. Jumaili has decided to suspend talks with the Iraqi government following a statement by the Prime Minister, Iyad Allawi, in which he said that a major offensive on the city was being prepared.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 10/17/2004 8:35:56 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [258 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "...that handing over Abu Musaab Al-Zarkawi was impossible because the terror suspect was not inside the city..."

They know that he's being ferried about "BELOW" the city, in an intricate set of tunnel mazes, but he's there. We only need to find the first door to the system!
Posted by: smn || 10/17/2004 22:29 Comments || Top||

Good news you don't hear
This is a letter from Ray Reynolds, a medic in the Iowa Army National Guard, serving in Iraq. (Via LGF)
As I head off to Baghdad for the final weeks of my stay in Iraq, I wanted to say thanks to all of you who did not believe the media. They have done a very poor job of covering everything that has happened. I am sorry that I have not been able to visit all of you during my two week leave back home. And just so you can rest at night knowing something is happening in Iraq that is noteworthy, I thought I would pass this on to you. This is the list of things that has happened in Iraq recently: (Please share it with your friends and compare it to the version that your paper is producing.)
* Over 400,000 kids have up-to-date immunizations.
* School attendance is up 80% from levels before the war.
* Over 1,500 schools have been renovated and rid of the weapons stored there so education can occur.
* The port of Uhm Qasar was renovated so grain can be off-loaded from ships faster.
* The country had its first 2 billion barrel export of oil in August.
* Over 4.5 million people have clean drinking water for the first time ever in Iraq.
* The country now receives 2 times the electrical power it did before the war.
* 100% of the hospitals are open and fully staffed, compared to 35% before the war.
* Elections are taking place in every major city, and city councils are in place.
* Sewer and water lines are installed in every major city.
* Over 60,000 police are patrolling the streets.
* Over 100,000 Iraqi civil defense police are securing the country.
* Over 80,000 Iraqi soldiers are patrolling the streets side by side with US soldiers.
* Over 400,000 people have telephones for the first time ever
* Students are taught field sanitation and hand washing techniques to prevent the spread of germs.
* An interim constitution has been signed.
* National Elections are scheduled in January for the first time ever .
* Girls are allowed to attend school.
* Textbooks that don't mention Saddam are in the schools for the first time in 30 years.
Don't believe for one second that these people do not want us there. I have met many, many people from Iraq that want us there, and in a bad way. They say they will never see the freedoms we talk about but they hope their children will. We are doing a good job in Iraq and I challenge anyone, anywhere to dispute me on these facts. So If you happen to run into John Kerry, be sure to give him my email address and send him to Denison, Iowa. This soldier will set him straight. If you are like me and very disgusted with how this period of rebuilding has been portrayed, email this to a friend and let them know there are good things happening.

Ray Reynolds, SFC
Iowa Army National Guard
Posted by: mercutio || 10/17/2004 7:03:24 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [299 views] Top|| File under:

#1  No questions, just a Thanks for your article/report.
My son is in Afghanistan right now. I constantly have my nose stuck in the TV. I get upset sometimes about how the news makes things appear, like Bush jumped to war too soon and the people in Iraq don't want us there etc.
My thoughts are... many people lost their lives over there working to rid our world of terrorists with thoughts on their minds that they're doing good for all mankind. I'm sure, sometimes you GI's were hungry, scared, hot, tired, sad, mad, missing your wifes, mothers, dads, you know all of that...and what do you hear? this kinda bull....It makes me angry...Any American that would say anything negative about Bush's decision should feel ashamed I think! The only people that should be able to say anything are you GI's, if you think things aren't right, because you all are doing the work.
Furthermore, I think, all people should watch what they say because they can cause a "divide and conquer" effect. With something as serious as this, we as Americans, need to stand by our President and our military...
A good thing,... I personally do not know anyone (in Cincinnati, Oh.) that's negative, at least not to my face.
I'm so proud of all you guys...so proud that it almost makes me cry sometimes...You know, like you almost do when you see your child sing in a school play for the first time, or hear their name over the PA at a football game. Anyways, just want you to know that. By the way...I am also a paramedic.
Godspeed SFC Ray Reynolds and thanks for eveything you've done...Sissy
Posted by: sissy || 10/18/2004 1:43 Comments || Top||

Zarqawi formally pledges allegiance to bin Laden
A group led by Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi has pledged allegiance to Osama bin Laden and said it was in contact with al Qaeda over operations in Iraq, according to an Internet statement posted Sunday. "With the advent of the month of Ramadan and the need for Muslims to unify ranks in the face of the enemy ... We announce that the Tawhid and Jihad Group, its prince and soldiers, have pledged allegiance to the sheikh of the mujahideen (holy fighters) Osama bin Laden," said the statement. "Sheikh Abu Musab was in contact with the brothers in al Qaeda for eight months, exchanging points of view, then contact was interrupted only to be restored again and the brothers in al Qaeda understood Tawhid and Jihad Group's strategy in (Iraq)," said the statement, which was dated Sunday.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/17/2004 2:28:50 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [274 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Why do they need to make such a public statement? was there any doubt that the two terrorist organisations are aligned? did Bin laden have reservations about the beheadings, maybe?
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 10/17/2004 22:09 Comments || Top||

Interesting Iraq Re-Deployment
British troops may end up in one of the most violent flashpoints in Iraq in an operation to help the United States forces poised for an assault on the rebel stronghold of Fallujah. Soldiers from the Black Watch may be deployed to Iskandariyah, south of Baghdad, an area that has seen militants carry out sustained attacks on US and Iraqi government forces, as well as the kidnap and murder of foreigners and Iraqis. The Americans claimed to have "pacified" the area in a major military operation after it passed into the hands of insurgents for months. But it remains highly volatile. Iskandariyah and nearby Latifiyah are important strategically as a "feeder route" to Fallujah, and US commanders are said to want the British battalion to provide support backfill, in military jargon for US troops heading for Fallujah to reinforce the 1,200 troops already based there...
Unconfirmed reports are that a large number of tanks are en route to Fallujah.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/17/2004 7:05:26 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [268 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I see they're finally adopting the strategy used by the Romans at Masada. About time, saw it coming a year ago, I did!
Posted by: smn || 10/17/2004 22:48 Comments || Top||

A declaration of war.
From IraqtheModel: EFL
This morning my uncle who's a highschool principal found a post signed by Al Tawheed Wal Jihad group on the door of his school. It seems that they are distributing a poster throughout Baghdad demanding all government employees to stop going to work, threatening to behead anyone who disobey! It reads:
In the name of God most merciful most gracious
A threat to all government institutes and all government employees. Why do you keep going to work and schools and keep silent about the occupation? We will behead anyone who commits to work in government institutes.
Allah Akbar Allah Akbar
wal yakhsa'a Il khasi'oon*
Al Tawheed Wal Jihad group.
(I don't know how this phrase can be translated but it's the one Saddam used to end his speeches with for the last few years before the war! A close translation might be, "Let the doomed ones be doomed"!!)
Posted by: mercutio || 10/17/2004 7:04:48 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [253 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Freedom-loving Iraqis should pack heat. Whack anyone who tries to kidnap or otherwise hurt them in the name of their god.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 10/17/2004 22:11 Comments || Top||

Africa: North
GSPC forms Sahara Brigade
For some time, the security services of the Sahel countries and international experts in counter terrorism have theorized that, with the loss of Afghanistan, al-Qaeda could well turn to the Sahara Desert for its next home base. That theory became reality when Libyan authorities discovered in June that the al-Qaeda-linked Algerian terrorist organization known as GSPC, the Salafist Group for Call and Combat had established a "Sahara Brigade, " a base of operations in the Tibesti Mountains. The Tibesti Mountains are in that remote part of the Sahara that lies in northern Chad.

Even before Libyan security services learned of the GSPC base in northern Chad, the terrorist threat in the Sahara -the soft spot of Africa -was real. Established by Hassan Hattab, GSPC had its origin in the Armed Islamic Group (GIA) and has as many as 3,000 fighters. Most of them were trained at al-Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan and have sworn allegiance to Osama bin Laden's terrorist network. Those fighters have reportedly suggested to al-Qaeda that because of the collapse of the Taliban and the loss of Afghanistan, the group should make the Sahara its new base.

One of the goals of GSPC in the Tabesti Mountains has been to recruit volunteers from Chad, Sudan, Libya, Mali and Mauritania and group them around the Sahara Brigade, the hard core of Algerian GSPC members, who will train them, including in the use of explosives. The recruitment of black radical Muslims from sub-Saharan Africa is of particular importance, because terrorists of Arab or Northern African origin have become increasingly easy to spot by Western secret services.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/17/2004 3:38:08 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [321 views] Top|| File under:

Afghanistan/South Asia
Jamaat-e-Islami being probed for links to al-Qaeda and the Taliban
The Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) of Pakistan, a key component of the Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal coalition, could be in serious trouble with the military regime initiating action against some of its functionaries for alleged links with Al Qaeda and Taliban and the US agencies probing these connections, a media report said. Quoting unnamed security officials, monthly 'The Herald' magazine said "the US intelligence officers have already been mandated by the Bush administration to gather enough evidence of the party's suspected Al Qaeda connections to enable the US State Department to place the organisation on its terror watch list".
I hope this doesn't mean they're just getting started on it. If I'd been in charge — we're all probably better off because I'm not — we'd have started around the end of September, 2001, when Qazi was calling out the turbans to riot in the streets...
It quoted these sources as saying that the US Office of Counter-Terrorism was "busy making detailed inquiries into recent reports of JI office-bearers and cadres providing refuge to fugitive Al Qaeda elements in various parts of the country".
Like Abu Zubaydah and Khalid Sheikh Mohammad?
While JI chief Qazi Hussain Ahmed, has denied any links with Al Qaeda or any other militant outfit, Pakistan's Interior Minister Faisal Saleh Hayat, has asserted in the National Assembly that Pakistan's "religio-political" parties were supporting the Al Qaeda, according to their interviews published in the monthly magazine. Though Hayat said he had made no direct assertions against the JI, he said "the Jamaat has some explaining to do. Several wanted terrorists have been arrested from the houses of hardcore Jamaat activists and leaders at one time or another".
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/17/2004 3:13:50 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [262 views] Top|| File under:

{Updates} US warplanes pound Fallujah
(Filed: 17/10/2004 / Telegraph.co.uk )

US warplanes have continued to pound Falluja as troops exchanged gunfire with rebels accused of shielding militant supporters of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, Iraq's most wanted man.

The battles subsided at dusk after US forces pulled back from forward positions. Four civilians, including a child, were killed in the violence, while 12 people were left wounded.

The outbreak of renewed violence across the country has marred the start of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan as the US continued in its campaign to reinforce its positions around the rebel-stronghold of Fallujah.

Earlier, two US helicopters crashed in the midst of the violence, bringing the American death toll to six in less than 24 hours.

In Baghdad's Sadr City slum, an arms collection point came under mortar fire, just hours before interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi was due there. Witnesses say the attack occurred at a football stadium where weapons collected from Shi'ite militiamen under a disarmament scheme had been gathered.

There was no immediate word on casualties. The weapons collection scheme, extended on Friday for two days, was due to end later today.

The violence comes as British commanders considered a request from the US to deploy UK troops for first

Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/17/2004 3:52:54 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [252 views] Top|| File under:

#1  *BAM* Happy Ramadan, assholes!
Posted by: Frank G || 10/17/2004 16:31 Comments || Top||

#2  Frank G no like this:

Happy Ramadan!
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 10/17/2004 19:55 Comments || Top||

#3  SPOD: Fine, where can I find 500,000 of those, plus enough aircraft to haul 'em to Fallujah for a night drop? I plan to make the drop from 12,000 feet, after flying at 40,000 feet (without heat in the cargo bay) for 7-8 hours. I want the entire drop to be accomplished in one hour...

Why shouldn't every household in Fallujah have a nice ham for Ramadan? heh...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/17/2004 20:23 Comments || Top||

#4  SPOD: Fine, where can I find 500,000 of those, plus enough aircraft to haul 'em to Fallujah for a night drop? I plan to make the drop from 12,000 feet, after flying at 40,000 feet (without heat in the cargo bay) for 7-8 hours. I want the entire drop to be accomplished in one hour...

Why shouldn't every household in Fallujah have a nice ham for Ramadan? heh...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/17/2004 20:23 Comments || Top||

#5  With a nice brown sugar and bourbon glaze...yum!
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/17/2004 20:30 Comments || Top||

Bombs ignite fear among Iraqi Christians
Explosions that damaged five churches in Baghdad have prompted some Christians to wonder whether it's time to leave their ancient homeland. "If they don't want us in Iraq, let them say it and we will leave," said Samir Hermiz, 40, standing next to a church that was reduced to ashes on Saturday. "I'm really thinking of leaving Iraq."

"It was horrible," said Odet Abdul, 48, who attends one of the bombed churches and lives around the block from it, adding that she thought she was about to die when she heard the blast. "They want us to leave Iraq, that is the message," she said.

Thousands of Christians have already left the country since the fall of Saddam's regime and Saturday's bombings were unwelcome news to the remaining Christians, about 3 per cent of Iraq's population.

The series of explosions caused no casualties but they further unnerved Christians already shaken by co-ordinated church bombings that killed 11 people in Baghdad and the northern city of Mosul in August. There was no immediate word on the identity or motives of the assailants who struck the five churches, including a Roman Catholic church in Karrada that was gutted in the attack.

Iraq's Christians had little power under Saddam Hussein but they did not feel threatened by sectarian violence. Now they feel they have no protection in a country where the interim Government is struggling to quell the chaos of suicide bombings, shootings and kidnappings.

Like others in his community, storekeeper Nabil Khawam believes "Christians are the true Iraqis", but he fears they can no longer risk staying. "We are a minority and we have no power. We are peaceful people. If attacks continue, our numbers will decline," he said.

The US military has accused Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi of masterminding sectarian attacks designed to spark civil war in Iraq.

Iraq's 650,000 Christians have always kept a low profile, hoping to avoid the tensions among Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds. Now the mostly Chaldeans, Assyrians and Catholics can wonder only when the next bomb explodes. "They are infidels . . . They have no faith," labourer Kamil Shabo, 40, said of the bombers. "It is a religious sanctuary, how could they attack a religious place?"
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/17/2004 2:15:11 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [267 views] Top|| File under:

"They are infidels . . . They have no faith," labourer Kamil Shabo, 40, said of the bombers. "It is a religious sanctuary, how could they attack a religious place?"

Wait a minute aren't the Christians supposed to be the Infidels.
Posted by: Cheaderhead || 10/17/2004 14:45 Comments || Top||

#2  Ok, there are 650,000 Christians in Iraq. There are 300 MILLION people in the United States, only a small portion of them Muslim. I've got five people in a house designed and built for 3, but I'll take one. Why not? We took in the Vietnamese boat people, didn't we? We've taken in millions of other refugees, some with far more dubious needs. If the Government can get them here, I'm sure there are enough people to offer them the necessities until they can become independent. They will probably be like 99.999% of the immigrants to this nation - an asset to us, and a dead loss to their losing country. Let the Exodus begin.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/17/2004 20:33 Comments || Top||

#3  Told us...didn't they! We "twinkle Toed" around the muslim mosques during our insurgent crackdown, now should they burn or bomb the christian churches,that will give us reason for regrets!
Posted by: smn || 10/17/2004 22:23 Comments || Top||

Unit That Refused Iraq Duty Said Released
Posted by: Fred || 10/17/2004 12:44:15 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [247 views] Top|| File under:

#1  sounds like Frank Burns ordered them to do a job they were ill-equiped for....
Posted by: Frank G || 10/17/2004 15:37 Comments || Top||

#2  Sounds like they were not stupid but some wanking officer up the command chain was. Sounds like they were guilty of refusing to be stupid and drive old worn out broken down second hand trucks with no armor into a ambush without an armed escort.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 10/17/2004 17:22 Comments || Top||

#3  What I got from the CENTCOM brief was that these folks thought there was something wrong with the trucks or the convoy. Sounds like a lot of rumors swirling around that unit and maybe they took them seriously. The Army will sort it all out soon enough. I think franks kind of right but in reverse. Some NCO thought something was wrong based on rumor and he got the other to go along.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 10/17/2004 18:58 Comments || Top||

Newly-Trained Iraqi Police Die in Ambush
Nine Iraqi policemen returning from a training course in Jordan were ambushed and killed on their way home to Karbala, police said Sunday. The bus they were traveling in was attacked Saturday in the insurgent hotbed of Latifiyah, 25 miles south of Baghdad, said Karbala police spokesman Abdul-Rahman Mishawi. He said the attackers escaped
Posted by: Fred || 10/17/2004 12:41:20 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [258 views] Top|| File under:

#1  God grant them peace. It appears they didn't learn all they needed to in Jordan.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/17/2004 13:07 Comments || Top||

#2  Latifiyah needs to learn a lesson
Posted by: Frank G || 10/17/2004 13:14 Comments || Top||

#3  It is a shame a remote unpopulated Island near either the North or South Pole can not be allotted for only captured Islamic jihadists from around the globe, so they can blow each other off the face off the Earth.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/17/2004 14:06 Comments || Top||

#4  Let their buddies sweep Latifiyah.
Posted by: ed || 10/17/2004 19:04 Comments || Top||

Body Count
...U.S. intelligence agencies have not been able to get a good estimate of the numbers. However, Gen. John Abizaid, the commander of the U.S. Central Command, which is in charge of forces in Iraq, told Congress recently that initial estimates put the number of insurgents at about 5,000. But Gen. Abizaid noted that U.S. and coalition forces have killed up to three times that number...
Despite the suggestion that the appearance of more foreign 'jihadists' is "bad news", I propose just the opposite is true. We are luring hundreds or even thousands of the worst, most fanatical trouble-makers to their deaths.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/17/2004 12:29:38 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [264 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So, that is 15,000 raisin-lovin' jihadis by USA count? Good job, boys! Keep it up at a rate of at least 2,000 per month and they will disappear.
Posted by: Brett_the_Quarkian || 10/17/2004 18:03 Comments || Top||

U.S. Continues Major Attack on Fallujah
U.S. forces battled insurgents around the rebel stronghold of Fallujah on Sunday. Fierce clashes between U.S. troops and insurgents broke out on a highway east of Fallujah and in the southern part of the city. The road, which leads to Baghdad, has been completely blocked. Residents reported fresh aerial and artillery attacks as explosions boomed across the city. Plumes of smoke were seen rising from the Askari and Shuhada neighborhoods in eastern and southern Fallujah as families began to flee the area, residents reported. They said a Humvee was seen burning in the eastern edge of the city. Hospital officials said three civilians were injured in the clashes. By sundown, U.S. troops had pulled back, setting up a checkpoint southwest of the city, witnesses said. Fallujah, 40 miles west of the capital, is considered the toughest stronghold of insurgents. Commanders have been speaking of a possible new offensive to wrest it out and other cities of militants' control, and the Marines said Saturday they had tightened their cordon around the city to keep suspected terrorists from fleeing the area. Still, officials have said that intensified airstrikes and fighting over the past week don't mark the start of a new operation.
Posted by: Fred || 10/17/2004 12:29:24 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [246 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Another mish-mash clusterfuck story. I'll take the MilCmd's version: there is no major operation in progress in Fallujah, no troops have entered the city, airstrikes and assorted fire from outside the city are killing all the baby ducks. Reporter "Tini Tran" is a moron.
Posted by: .com || 10/17/2004 12:46 Comments || Top||

#2  HONOLULU US forces were engaged in an improvised defense today over the usually secure naval base at Pearl Harbour.
Chickens cheapier to buy in Iowa over the past few days but the reason is unclear.
German militants continue to pursue Russian forces in the now defunct Soviet Union.
What's this about nylon? A new fetish appears on the horizon according to peoples that know about fetishes and such like.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/17/2004 19:50 Comments || Top||

#3  Waddaya mean Tinni Tran? This was written by Robert Reid.

Robert Reid...Wasn't he the guy with the shoe bomb who couldn't light a match?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 10/17/2004 19:53 Comments || Top||

Qurei: 140 killed in Gaza operation
Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Ahmed Qurei said Saturday that 140 Palestinians were killed and 500 wounded in the IDF operation against Kassam rocket squads in the northern Gaza Strip. The Palestinian Center for Human Rights said that at least 80 houses were demolished during the operation, including 60 in the Jabalya refugee camp and 20 in Beit Lahiya. Speaking to reporters in Ramallah, Qurei said the operation was part of a comprehensive aggression aimed at forcing the Palestinians to succumb. "Of course, this will never happen," he added. "The Gaza operation is in the context of attempts to create an umbrella for more land confiscation and the construction of the racist separation fence. The occupation always caries out criminal acts then withdraws." Referring to the IDF redeployment in the Gaza Strip over the weekend, Qurei said: "We are satisfied whenever the occupation withdraws from any area of our land. We don't want to see any trace of them on our land."
Posted by: Fred || 10/17/2004 11:11:31 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [249 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Speaking to reporters in Ramallah, Qurei said the operation was part of a comprehensive aggression aimed at forcing the Palestinians to succumb. "Of course, this will never happen," he added.

Yeah, we'll implode instead...
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/17/2004 11:21 Comments || Top||

#2  140 down, 500 injured? Rockets still flying? Cry me a river while the consequences of your actions still bounce off your thick fucking skulls.
Posted by: Frank G || 10/17/2004 11:23 Comments || Top||

#3  "The occupation always caries (sic) out criminal acts then withdraws."
As opposed to the Palestinians who carry out criminal acts by rocketing over the wall or by exploding themselves. Nitwit.

Maybe they'll start to get it when the ratio changes to 500 dead per 140 wounded. Less seeking revenge that way.
Posted by: Tom || 10/17/2004 11:38 Comments || Top||

#4  140 Palestinians were killed and 500 wounded in the IDF operation against Kassam rocket squads in the northern Gaza Strip. The Palestinian Center for Human Rights said that at least 80 houses were demolished during the operation, including 60 in the Jabalya refugee camp and 20 in Beit Lahiya.

Gotta love those stats. When the Palestinians finally wake up and change their stance on terrorism, maybe I'll manage to summon up a nano-sniffle for all of their dead (unlikely). Until then, they can all collectively go piss up a rope.

"We are satisfied whenever the occupation withdraws from any area of our land. We don't want to see any trace of them on our land."

Is anyone else waiting with gleeful expectancy to see the utter chaos and mayhem that will result from Israel's withdrawal? Once the barrier is complete, the Palestinians will fall upon their own selves like the rapacious parasites they have always been.

I look forward to the ensuing orgy of violence as Hamas and all the other fraternities of thugs make their individual grabs for power. Israel needs to slowly back away from the cesspit known as the Palestinian terrortories and let this world see for itself what sort of brutality and corruption will erupt amidst these violently psychotic murderers once they are unfettered.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/17/2004 14:02 Comments || Top||

#5  "Israel needs to slowly back away from the cesspit known as the Palestinian terrortories and let this world see for itself what sort of brutality and corruption will erupt amidst these violently psychotic murderers once they are unfettered."

The world will see it, but since so many nations are governed and populated by similar psychotic murderers, the world will magically become blind to it as it ratchets up the pressure for a Paleostinian state - yet another stick to beat Israel with.
Posted by: Bryan || 10/17/2004 15:21 Comments || Top||

#6  140 dead? A good start. Too bad on only getting 80 houses, though.
Posted by: Brett_the_Quarkian || 10/17/2004 18:10 Comments || Top||

#7  Yep, the over/under on abodes was 500. Lost twenty on that deal.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/17/2004 19:59 Comments || Top||

Jordan indicts al-Zarqawi among 13 terror suspects
Jordan's military prosecutor indicted 13 alleged Muslim terrorists Sunday, including fugitive Abu-Musab al-Zarqawi, for an al-Qaida linked plot to attack targets in Jordan with chemical and conventional weapons, government officials said Sunday. Lt.-Col. Mahmoud Obeidat summoned the nine terror suspects who are in custody and read them the charges listed in the indictment, the officials told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity. They said the four at large, including al-Zarqawi, were also charged and would be tried in absentia. The trial was expected to begin in early to mid November. Al-Zarqawi, the best-known figure indicted, is thought to be directing anti-US attacks and kidnappings in neighboring Iraq, where he leads the Tawhid and Jihad group.

Security officials have said the plot targeted the Jordanian prime minister's office, the secret service agency, the US Embassy in Jordan and other sites. Azmi al-Jayousi, the alleged mastermind of the cell who was captured in April, has confessed to military prosecutors plans for a chemical attack, the officials said. The military court is expected to issue a 10-day grace period this week for the four fugitives to surrender to authorities - a process that precedes the opening of the trial. In Jordan, charges become formal when read aloud at the opening of the trial.

The charges on seven counts include conspiring to commit terror attacks in Jordan, possessing and manufacturing explosive material and affiliation with a banned group, the officials added. The group in question has been identified as Kataeb al-Tawhid, Arabic for the Battalions of Monotheism, a previously unknown group said to be linked to al-Qaida. If convicted on all counts, defendants could be sentenced to death.
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Posted by: Fred || 10/17/2004 11:05:57 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [273 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Jordan's King/government have taken a step in the right direction by naming al-Zarqawi in the indictment, plus the Islamic serial killer will tried in absentia.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/17/2004 13:18 Comments || Top||

Commander vindicated of shooting Palestinian girl
Posted by: Anonymous6092 || 10/17/2004 06:22 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [260 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Anonymous6092, there's nothing in the linked article about a commander or a girl. It's about would be Arab students being turned down by the University. Wanna try again?
Posted by: GK || 10/17/2004 10:30 Comments || Top||

#2  Wrong link? :)
Posted by: Crereper Thomomble7223 || 10/17/2004 10:31 Comments || Top||

#3  this link works
Posted by: Frank G || 10/17/2004 11:22 Comments || Top||

#4  Sorry. Thanks Frank G.
Posted by: Anonymous6092 || 10/17/2004 14:39 Comments || Top||

Afghanistan/South Asia
Three rockets fired in Afghan capital, at least one injured
Happy New Year Ramadan!
Three rockets were fired in the Afghan capital Kabul late Saturday injuring at least one person in the latest of a string of attacks following landmark elections. A woman was injured by one rocket which landed near a mosque in northeast Kabul at around 7:00 pm, police said. The two other rockets have been confirmed but there is no information on casualties or where they landed, they said.
Rocketing mosques, huh? I consider that a good sign...
... yeah, but did they hit anything?
Posted by: Fred || 10/17/2004 11:45:53 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [251 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Taliban realises that the new found democracy has a tendency to spread in 'talk abouts', even in mosques! What better way they figure, to dispearse groups than from their religious places!
Posted by: smn || 10/17/2004 0:12 Comments || Top||

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