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Somalia: ICU and TFG sign peace deal
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Afghanistan
Hek says US to be driven out of Afghanistan and Iraq
Afghan militant leader Gulbuddin Hekmatyar said US troops will be driven out of Afghanistan and Iraq like they were in Somalia, according to a statement obtained on Friday. Hekmatyar, who heads the outlawed Hezb-e-Islami party, also offered praise for slain Al Qaida in Iraq leader Abu Musab Al Zarqawi in the statement, which could not be immediately authenticated. "The martyrdom of Al Zarqawi will not weaken the resistance and as the Americans were expelled from Somalia, they will be expelled from Afghanistan and Iraq," according to the statement, which was delivered to The Associated Press reporter in Peshawar.
Hey, Hek! Long time no hear from! How's it feel to be a spent force?
Posted by: Fred || 06/24/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  US troops won't be driven out by anyone. But they could be pulled out by US politicians.
And if Karzai keeps deploring the killing of Taleban, then who would want to stay there? The US could have let the Northern Alliance feast on the Pashtos, but chose to establish a just peace. That had better sink in.
Posted by: Clomort Hupavitch5691 || 06/24/2006 2:18 Comments || Top||

#2  I thought he was the Braves new pitching coach.
Posted by: 6 || 06/24/2006 8:27 Comments || Top||

#3  Sure, Hek. When you getting your pussified ass outta Pakland to start the process?
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/24/2006 9:59 Comments || Top||

#4  No worries Hek, we'll every "drive out" or fly. All good things eventually come to an end.
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/24/2006 10:12 Comments || Top||

#5  By US politicians, or PC/PDeniable diversions to IRAN + NORTH KOREA-TAIWAN, etc. Got the Dems + MadMoud of the Apocalypse + Kimmie > PRAVDA.RU is of course doing its fair share.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 06/24/2006 22:13 Comments || Top||


Africa Horn
Somali Islamist chief says will find cameraman's killer
Somalia's newly powerful Islamists expressed their condolences on Saturday to the family of a Swedish cameraman shot dead during a rally in Mogadishu and said they made three more arrests in their hunt for the killer. Islamic Courts Union (ICU) Chairman Sheikh Sharif Ahmed blamed the attack on those who wanted to destabilize Mogadishu, weeks after its new Islamist rulers said they had pacified one of the world's most lawless cities after 15 years of anarchy.

Martin Adler was shot dead at the front of a crowd of thousands while filming a protest led by the ICU on Friday. "The Islamic courts are very sorry for the killing and we send our condolences to the family and colleagues," Ahmed told a news conference, adding that they would find those responsible.

Nairobi-based ICU spokesman Abdurahman Ali Osman said three more people had been arrested in connection with the shooting and a woman arrested on Friday was still being questioned. Osman said on Friday the ICU blamed the shooting on followers of a lesser-known warlord, Abdi Awale Qaybdiid, who stayed in Mogadishu despite the Islamists' takeover. He later said this was not certain but added that Qaybdiid had been told to cooperate or would be "attacked".
Posted by: Fred || 06/24/2006 12:30 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Somalia: ICU and TFG sign historic peace deal
(SomaliNet) The Transitional Federal Government (TFG) which is struggling for the control of Somalia and Islamic Courts Union (ICU) that seized the power of the Somalia capital Mogadishu and other key towns from warlords two weeks ago have signed a peace deal in the Sudanese capital of Khartoum overnight following face to face talking to end the hostility.
This is after the ICU dismissed the legitimacy of the TFG...
The US state department has welcomed the peace accord by TFG and ICU as step forward and it is the start of new understanding between Islamists and Somali’s interim government despite the US government had asked ICU to hand over three foreign terrorist suspects who are believed to be in the Somalia capital Mogadishu.
It's doubtful that'll happen. The ICU's going to play by the rules as much as it can to avoid being evicted, but it's not going to break its ties with al-Qaeda...
The spokesman of the United Nation general secretary Kofi Anan, Stevejeni Dujarric said the UN has welcomed the new peace deal among Somali groups and praised the Arab League and the Sudanese government for their effort of gathering rival sides and hold meeting for them.
I regard anything the Arab League's involved with as shaky...
The delegations from TFG and ICU who had their first face to face talks in Khartoum have agreed on seven key articles including:
To recognize each other Ceasefire
To put the war criminals on trail
To stop media campaign
To suggest joint peaceful appeal to all Somalis
To maintain the negotiations ahead.
To hold another peace conference on 15 July.
On the government side, the peace deal was signed by the foreign minister Abdulahi Sheikh Ismael while the Islamic courts side; it was signed by Dr. Mohamed Ali Ibrahim.
It'll be interesting to watch this unfold. It looks like the warlord bubble's burst for good — which is to the good. Rule by Islamists isn't, though, and I think it'll become obvious in the next few weeks that the ICU isn't in control of its own hard boys, as witness the murder of a Swedish journalist today.
Posted by: Fred || 06/24/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Sudan: President’s Rejection of UN peace keeping Forces condemned by HRW
(SomaliNet) The Human Rights Watch (HRW) has criticized Sudan’s rejection of a UN effort to deploy an international peacekeeping force to the Darfur region saying there is no foundation to President Omar Hassan Al-Bashir’s characterization of a UN presence as a colonial intrusion in Darfur, VOA reported.
It'll do until he can think up a better reason. Kofi buys it, so that's enough...
Sudan’s president, Omar Hassan Al-Bashir in the past days rejected the deployment of a UN peace keeping force in Sudan’s war torn region of Darfur. According to HRW Deputy Director for Africa, Georgette Gagnon, UN forces deployed to Southern Sudan and other African countries play a vital role in quelling conflict and curbing violence.
Or at least in watching the festivities...
Gagnon said that African soldiers actively participate in the UN missions, which bear little resemblance to a colonial imposition. "Bashir’s statement that UN forces in Darfur would be a colonial intrusion is simply ridiculous. There are already UN forces in Southern Sudan that are monitoring implementation of the peace agreement between Bashir’s government and Southern-based rebels. There are also 14 UN peacekeeping missions in African countries in the past several years: Angola, Liberia, Libya, Mozambique, Uganda, Rwanda, and Sierra Leone, just to name a few. These forces always have contingents from African states, either as peacekeepers or military observers or as civilian police," she said.
Posted by: Fred || 06/24/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Note to HRW, Islamofascists don't listen to you.
Posted by: Captain America || 06/24/2006 7:24 Comments || Top||

#2  Gagnon said that African soldiers actively participate in the UN missions, which bear little resemblance to a colonial imposition

No truer words ever spoken. Indeed they do not resemble a colonial force. The "resemblance" is more akin to the standard African fare of undisciplined tribal HIV spreading rape, murder, pillage and plunder.
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/24/2006 10:17 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Count Dooku threatens to expand attacks in Russia
The Chechen rebel movement's new leader, Doku Umarov, threatened Friday to expand attacks into "many regions of Russia" in comments posted on a pro-rebel website a week after his predecessor was killed by Russian forces.
They've been threatening that for awhile. I think it was Shamil's idea, originally, though that's also how they got kicked out of power in their little Islamic paradise in the first place.
But Umarov vowed to end terrorist acts against civilians, signalling an attempt to draw a line under the bloody attacks, such as at the Beslan school in 2004, that have been so damaging to the Chechen independence movement's image.
Damaging to its image? Or did it simply open the eyes of the entire world to what a depraved bunch of bastards they are?
Umarov's statement on www.daymokh.org was the first since he assumed the presidency in the Chechen separatists' underground government and clearly aimed to refute Russian claims to have crippled the rebels with the slaying on June 17 of the previous leader, Abdul-Khalim Saidullayev. "We intend to complete preparations this summer for significantly expanding the area of military actions, taking in not only the Caucasus, but many regions of Russia," Umarov was quoted as saying.
Posted by: Fred || 06/24/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Let me guess, The Amish/Mennonite Resistance?
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 06/24/2006 10:21 Comments || Top||

#2  Redneck, d'you know what goes
"clopetty, clopetty, clop (pause) BANG! BANG! BANG!.... clopetty, clopetty, clopetty clop"?

An Amish drive-by shooting.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom || 06/24/2006 13:16 Comments || Top||

#3  LOL MOM!
Posted by: RD || 06/24/2006 19:49 Comments || Top||

#4  Whahahhahaaa
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/24/2006 20:05 Comments || Top||

#5  They want anarchy, i.e. US-Russian mil-geopol confrontation.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 06/24/2006 22:23 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
Mondale: Force an option for stopping North Korea
Former Vice President Walter Mondale says he supports a pre-emptive U.S. strike against a North Korean missile that is raising nuclear fears around the globe. Mondale said on WCCO-AM Friday that the United States should tell North Korea "defuel that missile. It has three boosters. Dismantle it and put it back in the sheds. Because if you're getting ready to fire this, we'll take it out."

Mondale, who's also a former U.S. ambassador to Japan, calls the North Korean missile "one of the most dangerous developments" in recent history. "Nuclear weapons can destroy hundreds of millions of people in one strike - destroy major cities -it is the danger of our time," Mondale said. "Here's this bizarre, hermit kingdom up there, with a paranoid leader getting ready to test a missile system that can hit us. We've got to stop it."

Mondale and other former top Democrats are convinced apparently that action is the key to ending the standoff. "This is such a legitimate thing for the United States to do," Mondale said. "The nature of the threat is so serious that I think we should knock it out right there if they won't stop."
Posted by: Steve White || 06/24/2006 00:15 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  SPACEWAR.com > William Perry as well.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 06/24/2006 0:53 Comments || Top||

#2  Sure, the Democrats talk all tough when it is not their decision to make. Why weren't they this tough when Clintoon was President? Of course, if Bush follows their advice and the NorKors flatten Seoul in retaliation, they will be screaming at Bush for that! The Dems are real tough, when there is no blowback or downside for them -- otherwise, they are Neville Chamberlain's pale imitation.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 06/24/2006 2:18 Comments || Top||

#3  Mondale and Carter, Carter and Mondale...still irrelevant after all these years
Posted by: Captain America || 06/24/2006 7:25 Comments || Top||

#4  Thought he was dead. Looking at the photo, he may well be, of AIDS, I think.
Posted by: regular joe || 06/24/2006 8:19 Comments || Top||

#5  My assessment for what it is worth, is that unfortunately nothing will stop this type of thing until one of these rogue states lights the fuse and wipes out a half a million poeple.
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/24/2006 10:21 Comments || Top||

#6  "Mondale says"
"Nuclear weapons can destroy hundreds of millions of people in one strike

Ummm, Two comments, No you moron, not from a single missle, and and just why does Mondale think anyone listens to him anymore?
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 06/24/2006 10:26 Comments || Top||

#7  Mondale is more like Lieberman; very goofy domestically, but relatively sound on FP. He was the only one in the Carter administration with any sense, but of course the VP has no influence.
Posted by: Jackal || 06/24/2006 10:30 Comments || Top||

#8  If the Democrats hadn't been undermining the liberation of Afghanistan and Iraq, we'd be in a much better position against Iran and NoKo, as well as Syria.

The psychopathic tyrants in these states would be scared of who's next.

I wish journalists would ask these recently outspoken Democrats to explain how this is different from Iran, and why there still are US troops in Korea. Guess the lack of question speaks volume about journalists and their Democrat buddies.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 06/24/2006 10:42 Comments || Top||


Europe
No decision yet over Hirsi Ali's naturalisation
Expectations that a decision had been made on whether Islam critic Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a Dutch citizen were dashed on Friday. Ministers didn't even discuss the issue during their weekly cabinet meeting. Immigration and Integration Minister Rita Verdonk said afterwards that the investigation is continuing.

Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende added that a "well-considered and tenable" story was needed to end the uncertainty about Hirsi Ali's status. He said he hoped the matter could be finalised soon but he could not say if the decision would come next week. "It is being worked on very hard," he said.

It was also reported on Friday that Balkenende had no reason to believe the delay in coming to a decision is deliberate on Verdonk's part.
No, no, certainly not!
Broadcaster RTL reported earlier in this week that Verdonk has already decided Hirsi Ali will keep her Dutch passport. The announcement, however, has been delayed while officials come up with a formulation that will save a loss of face for the Minister.
Posted by: ryuge || 06/24/2006 06:45 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I thought she already announced publically that she is going to shitcan the dutch and move to the U.S.?
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 06/24/2006 12:13 Comments || Top||

#2  "The announcement, however, has been delayed while officials come up with a formulation that will save a loss of face for the Minister."

Too late. Waaaay too late.

bigjim-ky - Being stateless and in limbo, which she is (I think) until this is resolved, it probably presents a silly bureaucratic problem regards coming to the US. The naturalization process here takes 4 years, assuming you follow the rules (time in-country for each calendar year, etc), so I would presume she'd like to get un-Rita'd (i.e. unfucked by Rita) and regain her Dutch citizenship. Then she can proceed normally through the US system, since she'll have a recognized citizenship and a sponsor. In other words, the bureaucratic jerk-off festival never changes, LOL. This is probably her choice - I think the US would waive some regs to make her way here possible. As you can tell, I don't really know a damned thing about it. I'd make a great bureaucrat - I may even be in Rita's class, but probably not Byzantine enough for a UN position.
Posted by: Snans Glosing2433 || 06/24/2006 12:26 Comments || Top||


Iraqi former diplomat expelled from Romania
An Iraqi former diplomat was expelled from Romania yesterday amid claims that he was a spy who had plotted terrorist attacks against western and Israeli interests. Chaker Mahmoud, 48, was ordered in 2003 to target the US and Israeli embassies in Bucharest in the months preceding the war in Iraq, the Romanian Intelligence Service said in a statement. Romanian authorities later found grenade launchers in the country's Iraqi embassy.

Officials claim Mahmoud was a spy for Saddam Hussein's regime, operating under diplomatic cover. At the time of the discovery, Romanian authorities declared ten Iraqi diplomats and 31 others as personas non grata, expelling them or barring them from entering the country. It was unclear if Mahmoud was among those expelled. He entered Romania on 3 May under a false identity, the statement said, and was arrested on Wednesday in the eastern city of Bacau. Mahmoud was deported to Cairo, Egypt and has now been banned from entering Romania for 15 years.
Posted by: Seafarious || 06/24/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Fifth Column
Miami Terror Cell: Just Boys With Violent Fantasies?
Defence attornies are bleating: but they didn't actually do anything. Just planned? Isn't that what bin Laden did? Yada, yada, yada.
They thought they were joining al Qaeda, but they were not. They were led by a ''Moses-like figure'' who carried a cane through Liberty City and wore a cape or sometimes a bathrobe. They allegedly sought to sow death and terror, and they ended up in leg irons.

The seven men arrested in an alleged terrorist plot believed they were conspiring with al Qaeda ''to levy war against the United States'' in attacks that would ''be just as good or greater than 9/11,'' according to a federal indictment unsealed Friday.

The campaign was to begin with the bombing of the 110-story Sears Tower in Chicago, according to the indictment, though an FBI sting foiled the plot long before it reached that point. Also discussed were attacks against federal buildings in Miami, officials said, and four other cities not identified in the charging documents.

''Individuals in America made plans to hurt Americans,'' U.S. Attorney General Albert Gonzales said during a news conference in Washington.

But that's where it stopped -- with plans, authorities said.
Which means the FBI shouldn't have arrested them, of course. No need to do that until they're driving a rental truck filled with ammonium nitrate northbound on the Dan Ryan expressway.
The men, allegedly led by Narseal Batiste, each swore an oath of fidelity to al Qaeda called a bayat but never met with an authentic representative of the group responsible for the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, according to authorities...

Download DOJ indictment here.
Posted by: Clomort Hupavitch5691 || 06/24/2006 02:29 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  They were led by a ''Moses-like figure'' who carried a cane through Liberty City and wore a cape or sometimes a bathrobe.

Ah, the Vinnie the Chin defense.
Note to defense lawyers. It didn't work for him either.
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/24/2006 10:39 Comments || Top||

#2  Too bad the Fed didn't actually permit them to travel to Chicago and motor up the Dan Ryan. Tipping off the Chicago PD would have produced a "just in time" SWAT reponse that would have saved US taxpayers a boat load of money.
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/24/2006 10:46 Comments || Top||

#3  Don't forget the race card.

These aren't 12-year-old boys having fantasies about the hot number down the street. These are adults who took action (pledging aliegence to AL-Q and planning) to murder thousands of innocent lives in the name of Islam.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 06/24/2006 13:40 Comments || Top||

#4  Did they wish to kill "devils" or "white devils"? If it was the latter, then there is a possible Fruit or Nation of Islam (Prislam?) connection.
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden || 06/24/2006 17:54 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Whacky Dean: Bush Turned Soldiers Into Target for Insurgents
The head of the Democratic Party blamed the Bush administration's "failed political leadership and lack of foresight and planning" for turning U.S. soldiers into targets for the Iraqi insurgency.

In his party's weekly radio address Saturday, Howard Dean said the Republican plan of "stay the course" is not an option in the 3-year-old war and emphasized the Democratic call for a phased withdrawal of U.S. troops to begin by year's end. He also rejected the Republican criticism that Democrats want to "cut and run."

"Among the victims are brave American soldiers who are the targets of an insurgency because of failed political leadership and a lack of foresight and planning," Dean said. "We don't want another wall with 55,000 names of courageous Americans who were let down by their government."

Dean described the Democratic proposals offered in the Senate last week, including the start of a phased redeployment of troops and an accounting of the war's costs. The Republican-controlled Senate soundly rejected two Democratic plans calling for the United States to begin withdrawing most of the 127,000 American forces in the war zone.

Republicans contend that leaving would amount to a policy of retreat that would threaten national security. Vice President Dick Cheney said withdrawal of U.S. forces would be giving the terrorists what they want. During the Senate debate, John McCain, R-Ariz., said leaving Iraq would "risk disaster" there. "Withdrawal and fail, or commit and succeed," he said.

Dean argued that Republicans don't have a plan.
We have a plan: we win. They lose. Simple.
Posted by: Captain America || 06/24/2006 12:03 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
Posted by: Anonymoose || 06/24/2006 13:37 Comments || Top||

#2  And Howie...You know all about the military stuff, right? You being Vietnam veteran and all.
Posted by: anymouse || 06/24/2006 13:42 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm sure him and his buddies openly aiding and abedding the terrorists and encouraging them to target civilians and soldiers has nothing to do with hit.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 06/24/2006 13:48 Comments || Top||

#4  "We don't want another wall with 55,000 names of courageous Americans who were let down by their government."


Always 1968 in the Left's world.
Posted by: no mo uro || 06/24/2006 13:57 Comments || Top||

#5  "We don't want another wall with 55,000 names of courageous Americans who were let down by the Democrats"
Posted by: DMFD || 06/24/2006 16:16 Comments || Top||

#6  55,000 names... c'mon, Howie, take a suppository or something and calm yourself.

At the rate we're going in Iraq, it'd take another 68 years to rack up those 55,000 names. In contrast, almost that many die on America's highways each and every year-- many of them little children.

Sheesh.

God have mercy on this country if we ever again let the Democratic Party back in the driver's seat.

Posted by: Dave D. || 06/24/2006 16:41 Comments || Top||

#7  He's as much of a Vietnam vet as most of the leadership that's run this operation for the last three years.

Just sayin' - there's plenty to criticize him on the merits, but that points just dumb (or cheap, if you prefer) under the circumstances.
Posted by: Uninetch Shick9275 || 06/24/2006 17:11 Comments || Top||

#8  "Let down by their government" - LBJ resigned due to age-and stress-related heart problems, notsomuch RFK, whereas Nixon greatly reduced the Amer military presence but did not end America's mil or econ or diplom support for South Vietnam. There is no evidence or conclusive evidence that LBJ would had completely withdrawn militarily from South Vietnam nor abandon South Vietnam to its fate.FOR THE DEMS TO ARGUE THAT THE WARS FOUGHT FOR COMMUNIST SECULARISM = WARS FOR DEIST RADICAL ISLAM ONLY SHOWS, AGAIN, THAT THE LEFTIES ARE EXPLOITING IFF NOT WILFULLY COLLUDING WID AMERICA'S ENEMIES AGAINST AMERICA, FIGHTING HARD FOR THOSE RESERVED SEATS ON THE FUTURE AMER COMUNIST PARTY RUSSIA-CHINA NEVER PROMISED THEM.
To paraphrase Krauthammer > say it wid me, Howie, you and the Dems will be gulagged andor exterminated alongst with the rest of America = Amerikkka.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 06/24/2006 21:48 Comments || Top||


GOP Candidate's Call for Labor Camp Rebuked
By JENNIFER TALHELM - ABC News so salt (heavily) to taste!
Just wanted to make known who wrote this....

WASHINGTON Jun 23, 2006 (AP)— A Republican gubernatorial candidate's call for creation of a forced labor camp for illegal aliens immigrants drew rebukes Friday from two GOP lawmakers, who labeled it a low point in the immigration debate.

Don Goldwater, nephew of the late Sen. Barry Goldwater, caused an international stir this week when EFE, a Mexican news service, quoted him as saying he wanted to hold undocumented immigrants in camps to use them "as labor in the construction of a wall and to clean the areas of the Arizona desert that they're polluting."

The article described Goldwater's plan as a "concentration camp" for migrants.

First of all these are ILLEGAL ALIENS not 'migrants' or immigrants. They VIOLATED FEDERAL LAWS and ought to be punished for it. YES I MEAN PUNISHED!

Goldwater, a candidate for governor in Arizona, said in a statement Friday that his comments were taken out of context. He said he was calling for a work program for convicted nonviolent felons, similar to "tried and tested, effective and accepted practices" used by state and local jails.
A mexican pro-ILLEGAL ALIEN newspaper trying to score points by misrepresenting the truth? Who do they think they are? Muslims?
But two Republicans, Arizona Sen. John McCain and Rep. Jim Kolbe, called Goldwater's comments "deeply offensive" and asked state Republicans to reject his candidacy in the Sept. 12 primary.

"That Mr. Goldwater is either unaware of or indifferent to the loaded symbolism, injustice and un-Americanism of his 'plan' to address the many serious issues caused by illegal immigration reveals his flaws as a candidate and a stunning lack of respect for the basic values of a generous and decent society," McCain said in a statement.
Enforcing federal law is.... unamerican? McCain's lost it.
Kolbe said that if the comments are true, Goldwater "has demonstrated his complete unworthiness for public office, and I am confident he will be soundly rejected by Republicans from the party of Barry Goldwater, who consistently demonstrated his compassion and respect for all people. This is a sad day in the national debate on illegal alien immigration policy."

McCain and Kolbe favor a guest-worker program for illegal aliens immigrants.
Wasn't the Guest worker program for new 'legal' workers? These two want Amnesty for illegal ALIENS.
Goldwater made a similar comment at an April anti-immigration rally.

"Build us that wall now!" Goldwater said, referring to a proposal to add 700 miles of fences along the U.S.-Mexico border. He promised then that if elected, he would put illegal immigrants in a tent city on the border and use their labor to build the wall.
And the bad side if this is....?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 06/24/2006 01:03 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'm afraid I haven't much use for Senator McCain these days. I appreciate his military service but I wouldn't vote for him.
Posted by: mac || 06/24/2006 3:45 Comments || Top||

#2  Sounds like a reasonable idea, to me. Whether digging ditches and postholes for the fence, making license plates, or paving the Senator's private ranch driveway and parking area, it's just getting work of value from incarcerated yokels. Who cares what language the gang-boss needs to speak?

Pandering assholes, pissing on good ideas.
Posted by: Sholush Spairong2372 || 06/24/2006 5:10 Comments || Top||

#3  I find McCain's pandering offensive.
Posted by: Captain America || 06/24/2006 7:28 Comments || Top||

#4  That's another reason to make it a federal felony cause the 13th Amendment says -

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.


However, till that time, its just unconstitutional. Get the horse before the cart. Call for the felony classification.
Posted by: Crath Choger3081 || 06/24/2006 8:55 Comments || Top||

#5  "Build us that wall now!" Goldwater said, referring to a proposal to add 700 miles of fences along the U.S.-Mexico border. He promised then that if elected, he would put illegal immigrants in a tent city on the border and use their labor to build the wall.

Glad he's reading the Rantburg. This was proposed on the Rant last week I believe.
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/24/2006 10:29 Comments || Top||

#6 
I may have to move to Aridzona, just so I can vote for the gentleman. It is nice to see that the fruit did not fall too far from the tree.

Go Don GO!

-M
Posted by: Manolo || 06/24/2006 10:35 Comments || Top||

#7  I've heard him do several radio interviews. Very solid and sensible. If Napalitano is gone and the wack job McCain is retired, Arizona with Goldwater and Sheriff Arpaio can make real progress and demonstrate to entire nation how this problem can be squelched rapidly. Once border traffic is shut off, start sending employers into these desert work camps for a minimum of ten years. They love the illegals. I'm sure they wouldn't mind spending more time with them.
Posted by: SOP35/Rat || 06/24/2006 13:36 Comments || Top||

#8  Include the officals of so-called Sanctuary cities (such as Seattle and King County - where the dead vote early - and often). Aiding and Abedding a felony sounds real nice...

I would love to see Seattle mayor Greg Nickles and King County's Ron Sims sweating it out with their illegal friends.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 06/24/2006 13:46 Comments || Top||

#9  I proposed this last week.

While I'm on a roll, I propose that civil servants that chose to ignore (violate) immigration laws be liable for double penalies. The minimum should be immediate termination from employment, public service including the House or Senate, 5 years in prision and a fine of $10k per violation. Legislators should be removed from office by their ethics committee while waiting trial.
Posted by: usmc6743 || 06/24/2006 15:14 Comments || Top||

#10  The democrats don't have an ethics committee.
Gary Condut and Bob Torriceli tried to get one started, but they lost their seats.
Posted by: wxjames || 06/24/2006 15:36 Comments || Top||

#11  I think Ann Coulter's been advocating this as well. Great minds think a like. And, before I forget......f*ck McCain.......mexi-panderin' country-club rino.
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 06/24/2006 15:39 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Court bars info request on NSA wiretapping
A federal appeals court on Friday declined to force the government to turn over information on the National Security Agency's wiretapping program to a man charged in a terrorism case. The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in the case of Yassin Aref, an imam at an Albany mosque who is accused of laundering money for an FBI informant posing as an arms dealer.

Aref wanted the government to say whether any of the evidence against him had been gathered through the warrantless electronic surveillance program, which has been challenged by some civil liberties groups. He asked the court to force the NSA to reveal details of the program, rule it illegal and toss out evidence gathered from it. The New York Civil Liberties Union joined Aref's motion.

Much of the legal debate over the request has been conducted under a shroud of secrecy because of the program's classified nature, with key court documents available only to those with security clearance. Although the government made redacted portions of some documents available to the defense, Aref petitioned the appeals court for greater access.

The three-judge panel said it didn't have jurisdiction to grant much of what Aref requested.

Aref and Mohammed Hossain, a pizzeria owner and mosque member, are accused of laundering money from 2003 to 2004 for the FBI informant, a Pakistani businessman posing as an arms dealer. The mosque was raided by federal agents on Aug. 5, 2004, following a yearlong sting.
Posted by: ryuge || 06/24/2006 06:41 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  a court with wisdom? What next?
Posted by: Frank G || 06/24/2006 9:53 Comments || Top||


US DOD sez Say "hirabah" or "mufsidun", not "jihad" or "mujahdeen"
Talking the right lingo when confronting a Muslim about Al Qaeda.
'...The men asked Muslim scholars what the correct term for Islamic extremists would be and they came up with "hirabah." This word specifically refers to those engaged in sinful warfare, warfare contrary to Islamic law. "We should describe the Islamic totalitarian movement as the global hirabah, not the global jihad," they wrote.

Another word constantly misused in the West is mujahdeen. Again, in American dictionaries this word refers to a holy warrior - again a good thing. So calling an al Qaeda terrorist a mujahid legitimizes him...

The correct term for these killers is "mufsidun," Streusand and Tunnell say. This refers to an evil or corrupt person. "There is no moral ambiguity and the specific denotation of corruption carries enormous weight in most of the Islamic world," they wrote."
Posted by: Gromosh Elminegum5705 || 06/24/2006 03:29 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How about "devil-worshipping savages?"
Posted by: Jackal || 06/24/2006 10:31 Comments || Top||

#2  I suppose that's what the Moslem Moderates have been doing all along, right?

Otherwise, I don't see why free men need to change the way they speak about the slaves of Mohammed's death cult.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 06/24/2006 10:36 Comments || Top||

#3  So, are Streusand and Tunnell "fuckin idjits" or merely "PC-addled morons"?

I wanna get it right.
Posted by: Snans Glosing2433 || 06/24/2006 10:42 Comments || Top||

#4  wonder if Streusand's nickname is "Babs"?
Posted by: Frank G || 06/24/2006 10:53 Comments || Top||

#5  This is not a bad thing. If one wishes to influence and people, one should use their language and customs. It also gives the impression that one "understands" them, ergo one is no longer a barbarian-foreigner. A slight thing, but effective.
Posted by: Fordesque || 06/24/2006 10:54 Comments || Top||

#6  Their language is to call us pigs, monkeys, infidel, etc. Their actions are to behead captives and brag about it, and to commit mass-murder.

Why would free men pretend that the problem doesn't lie in Islam, the ideology that motivates all of the above?
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 06/24/2006 11:07 Comments || Top||

#7  Just call them "dead". That's fine with me.
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/24/2006 11:15 Comments || Top||

#8  Yep, no more jihadis. Just call 'em Dead Men Walking.
Posted by: SOP35/Rat || 06/24/2006 13:39 Comments || Top||

#9  To quote the great Sir Winston Churchill, if you are going to kill someone, it costs nothing to be polite... or even use words that delegitimise them.
I'd rather see them dead... and dishonored.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom || 06/24/2006 14:52 Comments || Top||

#10  No it's not a bad thing but jeeebus....

the specific denotation of corruption carries enormous weight in most of the Islamic world

har har har!

more like...
the specific denotation of corruption carries enormous weight in most of the Islamic world
Posted by: 6 || 06/24/2006 14:57 Comments || Top||

#11  Jihad Dirka Dirka!
Posted by: Phil || 06/24/2006 15:56 Comments || Top||

#12  mufsidun = miscreants? That would be cool with me.
Posted by: twobyfour || 06/24/2006 16:21 Comments || Top||

#13  "I don't see why free men need to change the way they speak about the slaves of Mohammed's death cult."

You turnip. It is for the same reason free men of the Special Forces grow beards, don native dress, and sit through endless hours of cardamon-flavoured coffee with the elders.

It is another tool in the metaphorical tool-bag. Just as valuable as rifle or money, sometimes more so.
Posted by: Fordesque || 06/24/2006 17:25 Comments || Top||

#14  Say bombs away.
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/24/2006 21:06 Comments || Top||

#15  Fordesque -- you are missing the point.

Granting respect to the concepts and terms of a totalitarian ideology is the opposite of what the West needs to do. What someone in special forces does is something else.

Jihad is not a benevolent concept. Islam is not a benevolent ideology. 1400 years of warfare, conquest and slavery on the part of the Mohammedans should be enough evidence.

Try to transpose the meaning of that article by substituting Nazism for Islam and Nazi ideals for jihad etc.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 06/24/2006 22:27 Comments || Top||

#16  I'm not in the theater of war, so I call them scum-sucking cowards, emissaries of a corrupt and disgusting ideal - Allan - but that's just me..
Posted by: Frank G || 06/24/2006 22:58 Comments || Top||


Clowns Sabotage Nuke Missile
On Tuesday morning, a retired Catholic priest and two veterans put on clown suits, busted into a nuclear missile launch facility, and began beating the silo cover with hammers, in an attempt to take the Minuteman III missile off-line. Seriously. The trio -- members of the Luck, Wisconsin group Nukewatch -- said the break-in was part of "a call for national repentance" for the Hiroshima and Nagaski A-bombings in 1945. The activists used bolt-cutters to get into the E-9 Minuteman II facility, located just northwest of the White Shield, North Dakota.
I'm not comforted by the thought of our missiles being accessible with a set of bolt cutters...
"Using a sledgehammer and household hammers, they disabled the lock on the personnel entry hatch that provides access to the warhead and they hammered on the silo lid that covers the 300 kiloton nuclear warhead," the group said in a statement. "The activists painted 'It's a sin to build a nuclear weapon' on the face of the 110-ton hardened silo cover and the peace activists poured their blood on the missile lid."

This was all done while wearing face paint, dunce caps, misfitting overalls, and bright yellow wigs. "We dress as clowns to show that humor and laughter are key elements in the struggle to transform the structures of destruction and death," the statement said. "Saint Paul said that we are 'fools for God's sake,' and we say that we are 'fools for God and humanity.' Clowns as court jesters were sometimes the only ones able to survive after speaking truth to authorities in power." Guards responded within minutes. And when they arrived, the protesters "ate a lot of gravel," DefenseTech was told. "The individuals were taken from the area and brought to the McLean County Jail," the AP notes. "The three are being charged with criminal trespass and criminal mischief, both Class A misdemeanors, and bond was set at $500 each.... The FBI is involved in the case and federal charges are pending."
Posted by: Captain America || 06/24/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  well that doesnt say much good about site security...
Posted by: Ebbaving Ulese5797 || 06/24/2006 0:06 Comments || Top||

#2  In the days of Strategic Air Command, these bozos would have been dead before the first hammerblow fell. Must be getting old because I miss the good old days.
Posted by: RWV || 06/24/2006 0:07 Comments || Top||

#3  Guys, read the article...they got in the fence and beat on the silo lid....they didn't actually get anywhere near being near the missile. My dad served in the 68th Strategic Missile Squadron and there's no way you're getting into the silo WITH the missile before guards are there. The silo lid can shrug off anything short of a nuke or serious bunkerbuster.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 06/24/2006 0:49 Comments || Top||

#4  Guards responded within minutes. And when they arrived, the protesters "ate a lot of gravel," DefenseTech was told.

eating gravel makes a SAD CLOWN!

"The individuals were taken from the area and brought to the McLean County Jail," the AP notes. "The three are being charged with criminal trespass and criminal mischief, both Class A misdemeanors, and bond was set at $500 each.... The FBI is involved in the case and federal charges are pending."

gotta be kidding me.. at a minimum they should get 40 years breaking rocks.

for the full salutary effect though, they should have been shot on sight in costume.
Posted by: RD || 06/24/2006 1:01 Comments || Top||

#5  federal charges are pending

Saint Paul said that we are 'fools for God's sake,' and we say that we are 'fools for God and humanity.'

Well - at least they know they are fools. If the federal charges take hold, they'll have lots of time to laugh/cry and entertain their cellmates and brag about just how stupid they really are.
Posted by: 2b || 06/24/2006 1:37 Comments || Top||

#6  You could beat on a silo cover with a sledgehammer until Hell froze over, before you would do any damage. Those things are tough! Besides, unless they open the cover in a launch prep, you are not getting into the silo. And if they open it and you are on the wrong side -- SQUISH!
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 06/24/2006 2:15 Comments || Top||

#7  Them clowns ain't too funny.
Posted by: JohnQC || 06/24/2006 7:41 Comments || Top||

#8  a retired Catholic priest
Seems pretty spry for a retiree maybe he "retired" for reasons other than old age and infirmity.
Posted by: regular joe || 06/24/2006 8:25 Comments || Top||

#9  The Dominican nuns who attacked a missile silo got "between 30 and 41 months" each. Hopefully this time, the federal judge won't be so lenient.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 06/24/2006 9:45 Comments || Top||

#10  They should be shot. I am not jesting or kidding. Crossing that fence into that area should get you shot and killed. These fools need a refresher course on what is tolerated. Pain of death should be the lesson.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 06/24/2006 10:05 Comments || Top||

#11  I think it would be funny to see three clowns laid out riddled with bullet holes. Would that be irony?
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/24/2006 10:09 Comments || Top||

#12  I concur SPOD.
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 06/24/2006 10:16 Comments || Top||

#13  Nah, don't shoot them, you'll just create martyrs.

Try them, convict them, put them in a Federal pen for a few years. Nobody will hear of them outside the looniest left. Make sure they spend their days breaking up boulders, just to remind them of that good old taste of gravel ...
Posted by: Steve White || 06/24/2006 10:24 Comments || Top||

#14  Find an empty nuke silo, take the tools away and lock them in it.... throw away the key. Return in 6-8 months to check on them.
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/24/2006 10:27 Comments || Top||

#15  True Story: A Catholic priest and two nuns decided to do a protest at Wurtsmith AFB, Easter Sunday 83. Their first mistake was to assume that since it was a beautiful Easter Morning in Detroit, it was the same way four hours north. Wrong - the temp was in the upper '30s when they got out of the car wearing only thin spring outfits.
Second mistake was trying to scale an 8', triple-razor-wire topped fence in said clothes. They did it, but were a bloody mess on the other side.
Third mistake was in having no idea where they were. Of course, they set off the motion sensors and the SP's raced off, but they'd gotten into the woods - BAD mistake, as a chunk of the George Washington National Forest is on base property. Damn near impenetrable to the point where base personnel had off-limits orders for it. THEY wandered around - surrounded by cops - for about 45 minutes until they stumbled out onto a road not even within sight of an airplane and were promptly shown what SAC security was like. (Believe me when I tell you it was NOT pretty - the intruders stumbled and fell repeatedly.)
The worst part was that once they were thrown off the base, they called the Detroit media and told them that they had actually gotten up to the alert birds and had a communion service before they were arrested. Completely untrue, but the media ate it up. I'm told that when later challenged on it, the priest said that the lie was for the greater good.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 06/24/2006 14:17 Comments || Top||

#16 
Homey don't play dat!
Posted by: xbalanke || 06/24/2006 20:43 Comments || Top||

#17  Sorry, but in the days of terrorism, it's got to be shot first ask questions later. The double fence and postings makes it all legal. Life is tough. It's a lot tougher if you're stupid.
Posted by: Ulavitle Crosh3522 || 06/24/2006 21:19 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Imam announces Rs 50,000 reward for Taslima’s head
Security for controversial Bangladeshi writer Taslima Nasreen has been tightened after a imam here announced a reward for eliminating her and demanded her expulsion from the country.

Security personnel have been guarding Taslima's residence and screening her visitors after Syed Noorul Rahman Barkati, the imam of Tipu Sultan mosque, announced a reward of Rs 50,000 on her head. “Yes, I have offered a reward of Rs 50,000 to anyone who eliminates her as she continues to damage the secular fabric of this country with her comments," Barkati said on Saturday.
Can we start a collection for his head?
He demanded the writer's immediate expulsion from India, where she has been living for more than a year now.

Denying that she had hurt the sentiments of any religion, Taslima said she had not received any direct threat from anyone but some of her recent statements at a function might have been distorted. “It is my firm conviction that my statements at a recent literary programme at the Bangla Academy have been distorted to the advantage of fundamentalist organisations," she said.

Expressing her resolve to stay on in West Bengal, she confirmed that security around her house has been tightened in the last few days. “I like to stay in West Bengal since democracy is well protected here and there is freedom of expression. I have total faith in all religions and I have not uttered any word which may have hurt religious sentiments of any community," she said
Posted by: john || 06/24/2006 13:34 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  he needs to disappear
Posted by: Frank G || 06/24/2006 19:36 Comments || Top||


Cash underpins continuing carnage in Kashmir
Evidence is emerging that the recent wave of violence along the fringes of the Pir Panjal range in southern Kashmir may be linked to a power struggle within the Hizb-ul-Mujahideen over the proceeds of organised crime-style extortion operations.

On Tuesday night, the police eliminated Farooq Ahmad Bhat, Hizb commander for Anantnag district. Documents recovered from the terrorist show that 280 residents of Anantnag and Kulgam, his areas of operation, were making graded payments of Rs. 11,000 or Rs. 4,800 at regular intervals to the Hizb. Dozens of others made one-time payments of several hundred thousand rupees.

Between December 12, 2005 and May 17, 2006, Bhat, his diaries record, raised an estimated Rs. 5,95,000, no small amount given that the Hizb's active cadre strength in Kulgam and Anantnag is put at under 50 men. In addition, a staggering Rs. 38,61,550 was distributed to the families of 290 slain Hizb terrorists, although it is unclear from the documents if these funds were also raised locally.

Investigators believe that the June 11 massacre of nine migrant labourers from Nepal may have been linked to the Hizb's highly-organised extortion operations. Executed by its Kulgam commander Sajjad Ahmad Butt, the massacre is thought to have been intended to compel local contractors to make direct payments to the terrorist rather than to his district and division-level superiors.

Continued on Page 49
Posted by: john || 06/24/2006 07:43 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Common banditry...

Posted by: john || 06/24/2006 19:29 Comments || Top||


Human Rights watch to India: Don't torture Khalistani militant
A US-based human rights body has urged India to ensure that a militant of the banned Khalistani Commondo Force who has been extradited to the country is not "tortured or mistreated." Following India's request, US had extradited Kulvir Singh, a former separatist leader who faces 11 charges of robbery, murder, attempted murder and conspiracy to murder. He was brought to New Delhi on Sunday by Punjab police officials.

"If (Singh) has committed crimes he should be prosecuted in a fair trial, but the Indian government must not allow its own forces to break the law to punish him," said Brad Adams, Asia director at Human Rights Watch.

He claimed that Singh's "account of being tortured in the past makes it even more likely that Indian security forces will abuse him again." Singh had alleged that that Indian security forces in 1988 and 1989 tortured him to stop his political activism and to make him reveal the identities of other Sikh activists.

Human Rights Watch alleged that the greatest risk to Singh, "as with many criminal suspects in India," is during police remand, when suspects are detained at police stations for investigations with minimal oversight.

"Indian security forces have a long history of abusing criminal suspects and detainees by torturing them," claimed Adams. "They've used those methods against politically active Sikhs without facing any punishment." A district court in California had dropped eight of the cases brought against Barapind in the extradition petition, five of them because they fell under the "political offense exception" in Indo-US extradition treaty. But last October, it certified his extradition in the three remaining cases involving six murders and one attempted murder.
Posted by: john || 06/24/2006 07:21 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  India to Human Rights Watch - Mind your own friggin' business!


Posted by: FOTSGreg || 06/24/2006 18:17 Comments || Top||

#2  Does India have their own RAB?, if not, then there's nothing to worry about is there?
Posted by: Tony (UK) || 06/24/2006 18:20 Comments || Top||

#3  The Punjab Police under the KPS Gill (one Sikh policeman you do NOT want to cross) was quite ruthless.
They crushed the Sikh insurgency, one of the most sucessful counter-insurgency operations in modern history. They achieved what the Indian Army itself could not. The police ground presence, their informers, their powers of arrest and prosecution are essential for COIN operations.
When the terrorists kidnapped the family members of his men, Gill allegedly had close family members of the terrorists kidnapped. They stopped their activities.
The Punjab police allegedly "disappeared" thousands of "militants" and their supporters. They had their own cremation equipment.
Posted by: john || 06/24/2006 19:10 Comments || Top||


Lawyers call Zarqawi 'a great Muslim'
PESHAWAR: The Islami Jamiat Lawyers (IJL) forum, Peshawar called Abu Musab Al Zarqawi, who was killed recently in a US bombing, a great Muslim and a 'Mujahid' and condemned the statements by US President Bush and UK Prime Minister Tony Blair in which they called him a terrorist.
All taht stuff about him cutting people's heads off and running international terror networds is just base calumny...
The forum, in its meeting at the Peshawar District Bar Room on Friday, paid tribute to Al Zarqawi and said that he had fought against terrorist countries, who had killed thousands of innocent Muslims and had captured the resources of the ummah. The forum also offered fateha for Zarqawi. The participants expressed concerns over the killing of tribesmen in federally administered tribal areas (FATA) and condemned the army's presence in FATA. The forum consisted mostly of lawyers from FATA and activists of Jamaat-e-Islami who said that peace in FATA could not be restored till the complete withdrawal of the army from the area. They said that if the NWFP governor was serious in bringing peace to the troubled tribal areas, he should make backing out the army from the tribal belt his priority.
Posted by: Fred || 06/24/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yeah, I agree. He turned into a great Mooselimb right after that 2nd 500 pounder hit.
Posted by: SOP35/Rat || 06/24/2006 0:55 Comments || Top||

#2  And we all know what Shakespeare said to do with the lawyers.
Posted by: Perfessor || 06/24/2006 7:11 Comments || Top||

#3  Thats their role model.
Posted by: newc || 06/24/2006 7:41 Comments || Top||

#4  A lot of muslims think the WoT is a war on Islam. We try to tell them it is a war on muslims like OBL, Zarki, & Zawahiri. Personally, if the aforementioned terrorists are considered great muslims by the majority of their co-religionists then I'd say we are in war on islam - and rightfully so.
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 06/24/2006 10:22 Comments || Top||

#5  War on Mooslims - War on terror.... same, same GI.
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/24/2006 10:24 Comments || Top||

#6  One of the greatest.
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/24/2006 10:31 Comments || Top||

#7  Definitely great. Can't wait to buy the action figure. It should come with hacksaw and extra blade.
Posted by: wxjames || 06/24/2006 12:11 Comments || Top||

#8  Go sit in your corner Grom. Bad! Bad!
Posted by: 6 || 06/24/2006 15:00 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
Blix urges West to get priorities right over nuke threat
Hans Blix, the former UN chief weapons inspector, yesterday warned that North Korea represented the most urgent threat to global nuclear security. He also called on the United States to show more patience with Iran.
Does that mean we can show less patience with NKor?
Mr Blix's comments came as North Korea threatened to test-fire a long-range missile which is capable of delivering a nuclear warhead. The US is insisting on a response by no later than mid-July to a package of incentives for Iran to halt its suspected uranium enrichment program. "To say 'two weeks before a reply has to be given' is not necessary," Mr Blix said. "In North Korea, there are nuclear weapons. That's more urgent."
"So, really, you don't have to pay any attention to the Medes and the Persians..."
Mr Blix, who was speaking at a conference on nuclear non-proliferation in Moscow, also urged the US to recognise the "security issues" that he said were pushing some nations to seek nuclear weapons.
That'd be the apprehension that we're eventually going to invade them and hang their leadership by their own turbans...
Posted by: Seafarious || 06/24/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Herro Hans
Posted by: 2b || 06/24/2006 1:53 Comments || Top||

#2  Priority #1: Keep goofs like Blix out of the picture.
Posted by: Clomort Hupavitch5691 || 06/24/2006 5:46 Comments || Top||

#3  North Korea: "speed up".

Iran: "slow down".

Blix has the Goldilocks Complex.

Love the graphic.
Posted by: Jules || 06/24/2006 7:30 Comments || Top||

#4  Hans "there are no WMDs in Iraq" Blix?

Shoulda kept his mouth shut so we'd all think the lair was indeed feeding fishies in Norkland.
Posted by: Crath Choger3081 || 06/24/2006 8:51 Comments || Top||

#5  Tell the Norkies they can test the missile only if they duct tape Blixie to it.
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/24/2006 10:13 Comments || Top||

#6  I may be off-home here. But is the intrasigence displayed by the usual suspects regarding Iran and their urgency now regarding Korea, a racial or cultural bias? Both are threats. Why does Iran get a pass and the Koreans get a sword-waving?
Posted by: Fordesque || 06/24/2006 11:02 Comments || Top||

#7  Maybe Fordesque because most of the key parties believe Kimmie already has a bomb where as the Iranians are still some calendar days away from getting one put together.

Who do I spend my 'worry time' on, some one brandishing a weapon or one who is threatening to get one?
Posted by: Crath Choger3081 || 06/24/2006 11:22 Comments || Top||

#8  Actually, it's good strategy to attack the weaker first. It seeds doubt in the mind of the stronger, and it clears the gameboard.
Posted by: wxjames || 06/24/2006 12:17 Comments || Top||

#9  So, Hansy, ole' buddy, lemme' get this straight...

The USA should listen to what you decide are the proper priorities, right?

We should listen to what you have to say about where our national (and, coming from me, personal) priorities, lie, right?

Hansy, buddy, ole' friend - WHO THE FUCK DIED AND TOLD YOU YOU WERE ANYONE TO SAY WHAT THE USA'S (OR MY OWN) PRIORITIES ARE OR OUGHT TO BE?

Shut and die you blind old has-been.

Posted by: FOTSGreg || 06/24/2006 18:36 Comments || Top||

#10  PRIORITY > is once America is gone, all of Western democracy and civilization is next, ergo is no reason to be scared of nuclear war becuz Amer'c enemies are going to kill the West + Democracy anyways. Year 2015-2020 > iff the USA is NOt under Socialism and OWG, the Lefties reserves their right to use any means or methods necessary, including MUTUALLY-DESTRUCTIVE NUCLEAR WAR, to force America under same, or to destroy her. WHY ARE USA's + WEST'S ENEMIES THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN RESORT TO VIOLENCE, TERROR, NUCLEAR WAR OR MUTUAL DESTRUCTION - you know, Lefty-beloved EQUALISM!? WHY IS AMERICA = WEST = DEMOCRACY RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR UNWILLINGNESS TO REFORM. COMPROMISE, OR POWER-SHARE TO EVERYONE'S ADVANTAGE, FOR THE MANY INSTEAD OF ONLY THE FEW!?
No American should want or seek nuclear war, but by the same token no American should be afraid to fight one against enemies whom are trying to kill us anyways, and take everything away from us. Don't want war, don't start one. *SUPERMAN on Cartoon Channel > " I try to be careful or not to use my full power or strengths becuz I don't want the innocent to be harmed, but every now and then someone [like DARKSIDE + armies] comes along and I get the oportunity to show how powerful I really truly am "!
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 06/24/2006 22:05 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Drudge: Crazy Saddam: Americans Might Reinstall Me As President!
Sat Jun 24 2006 11:25:37 ET

Saddam Hussein believes the Americans may reinstall him as president of Iraq, the NEW YORK TIMES is planning to report on Sunday, newsroom sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT.

Saddam Hussein has no illusions, his chief lawyer says. As he sits in his prison cell reading the Quran and writing poetry, he knows the inevitable is coming -- a death sentence handed down by the Iraqi court trying him for crimes against humanity.

Yet Saddam refuses to submit to the fate that awaits him, Khalil al-Dulaimi, said, for he believes there is a way out. President Bush will use the court's sentence as leverage to try to persuade Saddam to tamp down the insurgency, he said, so desperate are the Americans to stanch their losses.

Saddam believes the Americans might even reinstall him as president of Iraq.
Posted by: Fred || 06/24/2006 12:34 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Right. We're going to send him to negotiate with Zarqawi. Have a nice chat, boys.
Posted by: Matt || 06/24/2006 14:04 Comments || Top||

#2  He's partially right.

We're willing to install him as president. IN HELL.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/24/2006 14:19 Comments || Top||

#3  If you can give the NYT credit for one thing, it's coming up with a million and one ways for repeating their mantra, Bush failing so bad that crazy Saddam thinks he might be asked be put back in charge "to tamp down the insurgency, ... so desperate are the Americans to stanch their losses."

Points for creativity on this one. Plus it taps into the up the ol' It's America's fault Saddam got to power in the first place

Bravo.
Posted by: 2b || 06/24/2006 14:25 Comments || Top||

#4  And werewolves might fly outta my ass.
Posted by: mojo || 06/24/2006 15:47 Comments || Top||

#5  I know it's out-of-the-box....but I still think we could get some mileage out of the old bugger if we parolled him and got Halliburton to hire him as a consultant for internal security in Iraq. Hire Blackwater to keep a short leash on him. A one year, cost plus contract... contingent upon explusion of foreign fighers and Al-Quida. Peace would break out in less than a week, troops could come home, and we could lock Saddam back up at Eglin AFB or the Federal facility in Marion, IL to write his memoirs, smoke Cohibas, and watch the Sopranos.
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/24/2006 18:41 Comments || Top||

#6  Uh huh... I'd let the Kurdish women have at him with metal sporks
Posted by: Frank G || 06/24/2006 19:31 Comments || Top||

#7  Unfortunately, he may be dead on - remember, Amer's enemies, to include but not limited to Anti-Amer Americans, want America controlled and suborned under Socialist-Communist World Order-OWG, and at any price, by any means necessary. MOTHERLY ANTI-AMER AMER + DITTO GLOBAL SOCIALISM-COMMUNISM and TOTALITARIANISM is the DemoLeft's answer to defective, errorful, mistake = wilful mere Male Brute Authoritarianist GOP-Rightist Fascism, i.e. Ultra-Right/Rightism-based SOCIALISM. CLINTONISM > FASCISM = DE-REGULATED = PRO-COMPETITION [but still Govt-centric] COMMUNISM or LEFTISM-SOCIALISM. Dubya > Hated despicable Nazi Bushitler = also well-meaning but misguided <> warmongering imperialist Americanist Westernist Corporatist DemoCapitalist HalfCommunist/Half-A-MarxistStalinist!? Amer Hiroshima/new 9-11's > GOP-America-caused/blamed = Saddam MIGHT = COULD BE INNOCENT thanx to US "conspiracies" ergo releasing Saddam is the price America gets for its anti-Motherly, anti-Leftist "arrogance". anti-US, anti-Dubya-GOP NEW 9-11's = "Righteous/People's/Global Resistance agz USA + US-only Tyranny" = also COUP D'ETAT worthy of Oliver Stone. FAILED LEFT(S) > AMERICA AND ONLY AMERICA MUST PROVE IT IS NOT AT FAULT FOR EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING, ESPEC FOR THE FAILURES OF THE LEFT.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 06/24/2006 21:00 Comments || Top||

#8  That "one lunch hunger strike" really got to the ol' boy, didn't it?
Posted by: Swamp Blondie (formerly) Desert Blondie || 06/24/2006 22:37 Comments || Top||

#9  Obviously he's assuming Bush et al get crushed next election.
Posted by: grb || 06/24/2006 23:37 Comments || Top||


Saddam ends hunger strike
Saddam Hussein ended a brief hunger strike after missing just one meal in his US-run prison, a US military spokesman said on Friday.
I worked through lunch a couple days this week. I didn't even realize I was on a hunger strike...
The former Iraqi leader had refused lunch on Thursday in protest at the killing of one of his lawyers by gunmen, but the spokesman said he ate his evening meal.
"Lunch time, Sammy! It's meat loaf again!"
"Take it away! I'm on a hunger strike! What's on the menu for this evening?"
Former Saddam aides being held in the same prison had refused to eat three meals since Wednesday evening but ended their fast with the ex-president.
"Chef Andre's special veal chops with baby roasted potatoes and fresh steamed asparagus, Sammy! Should I take it away?"
"He didn't make that devil's food cake for dessert, did he?"
"Ummm... Yep."
"With the creamy vanilla icing?"
"Yeah."
"Okay. Strike's over. But no coffee! I have my principles!"
"They all took their dinner meal," the spokesman told Reuters.
"Mmmmm! Cake!"
Posted by: Fred || 06/24/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Oh Saddaaaaammmm, I've got some Doritos for you....
Posted by: Penguin || 06/24/2006 0:17 Comments || Top||

#2  remember Saddam has to eat for the whole of Iraq...or is it the entire Islamic Nation?
Posted by: RD || 06/24/2006 0:27 Comments || Top||

#3  ... is that pathetic or what - BTW Fred, a classic inline
Posted by: Frank G || 06/24/2006 0:42 Comments || Top||

#4  I guess the lawyer wasn't one of the top 400...
Posted by: PBMcL || 06/24/2006 0:55 Comments || Top||

#5  Bacon!
Posted by: Captain America || 06/24/2006 7:33 Comments || Top||

#6  Agree with Frank G. short but awesome inline.
Posted by: 6 || 06/24/2006 8:34 Comments || Top||

#7  Cindy Sheehan, Willie, Danny and Dick take note. You may not even have to miss that July 4th cookout on your "hunger strike".
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/24/2006 10:18 Comments || Top||

#8  Who had the over/under at one day? From now on we may have to bet on fractions of a day.

Al
Posted by: Frozen Al || 06/24/2006 17:09 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Gaza’s international gateway reopens after alert
GAZA - Gaza’s Rafah international gateway reopened on Friday after being closed for more than seven hours due to an Israeli security alert, officials said. The alert had prevented European monitors from travelling to the Rafah terminal.

The crossing with Egypt was also closed on Wednesday and part of Thursday after the Israeli army shut the nearby Kerem Shalom passage into southern Gaza, warning of a possible attack. Monitors use the passage to get to Rafah. An Israeli army spokeswoman said the monitors could have gotten to Rafah by entering through another crossing point. But the monitors say Rafah cannot reopen unless a liaison office located at Kerem Shalom is up-and-running.
"Nope, nope, can't do it, nope."
The Islamic militant group Hamas has said it suspected Rafah was closed to stop its government from carrying cash by hand into Gaza to sidestep a Western aid embargo. The monitors have denied the accusation.

Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh of Hamas accused Israel of closing the crossing “to put more pressure on the Palestinian people.” “The Europeans should return to their jobs and the work should be resumed,” he said.
And it looks like the pressure is working.
Posted by: Steve White || 06/24/2006 00:09 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  don't discount the mischief from our EU "friends"
Posted by: Frank G || 06/24/2006 0:33 Comments || Top||

#2  "The Europeans should return to their jobs...."

Yeah, go back to their jobs in Europe. Let the Paleos fend for themselves without meddling Euro enablers.
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 06/24/2006 6:36 Comments || Top||

#3  We should send a case of shinny purple beads.
Posted by: 6 || 06/24/2006 8:39 Comments || Top||

#4  Meanwhile Israeli troops launch incursion in Gaza
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/24/2006 10:23 Comments || Top||


EU to give 105m euros in aid to Palestinians
BRUSSELS: The European Commission said Friday that it was to begin releasing 105 million euros in aid to Palestinians, bypassing the Hamas-led government, with the first funds to be paid out by early July.

The Middle East diplomatic Quartet - the EU, United Nations, United States, and Russia - endorsed on Sunday the new funding "mechanism" for cash-strapped Palestinians that will distribute money without reaching Hamas, which refuses to renounce violence or recognize Israel.

External Relations Commissioner Benita Ferrero-Waldner said: "The temporary international mechanism will bring relief addressing urgent basic needs, and the EU is making good on its promises to continue as a reliable partner for the Palestinian people. "We would be able to do more for the Palestinians if their government committed itself to seeking peace by peaceful means," she added.
Posted by: Fred || 06/24/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...without reaching Hamas...

Oh, brother. Like Hamas thugs won't be visiting the recipients and soliciting 'donations'...
Posted by: PBMcL || 06/24/2006 1:16 Comments || Top||

#2  Y'know, I think the IDF could take the EU. But who would want it? It'd be no different than taking some Arab countries - just a shitload of whining seething bitching back-stabbing blaming layabouts.
Posted by: Ulert Spolurt9461 || 06/24/2006 3:00 Comments || Top||

#3  Why do they feel a compulsion to be so fricking stupid?
Posted by: 3dc || 06/24/2006 11:48 Comments || Top||

#4  bypassing the Hamas-led government

Going straight to the EU bureaucrat kickbacks without having to cut it with Hamas?
Posted by: 2b || 06/24/2006 14:46 Comments || Top||

#5  There's dumb and dumber. Then there's dumbest. Then there's the EU . . . .
Posted by: grb || 06/24/2006 23:43 Comments || Top||


Abbas forces deployed at Gaza commercial crossing
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has started deploying his own forces at Gaza’s main commercial crossing, boosting security and limiting the role of the Hamas-led government, officials said on Friday. So far at least 35 members of Abbas’s elite presidential guard have taken up positions near the Karni crossing, through which virtually all trade between Israel and the impoverished coastal strip must pass, Western diplomats said. The small deployment started quietly about 10 days ago and is expected to grow in the coming weeks.

The United States and other Western powers want to see Karni and other crossings under Abbas’s direct control. With US help, Abbas’s office has been drawing up plans to tighten security at Karni and bolster a border agency that answers to him rather than Hamas. Saeb Erekat, a top Abbas aide, said the presidential guard was being deployed at Karni because “it’s under the president’s jurisdiction and the president can count on them to do the job”. “We’re working very hard in order to reopen Karni (fully). That’s why we’re trying to provide for a secure environment,” he said. Israel appears to be going along with the guard’s expansion. “Israeli officials are saying those guys are good and should take over as many border posts as possible,” a Western source familiar with the discussions said.
Posted by: Fred || 06/24/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Abbas: "first dibs on the cash-filled suitcases"
Posted by: Frank G || 06/24/2006 9:54 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Turkish FM to visit Iran for talks on N-row
ANKARA: Turkish Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul will visit Iran at the weekend for talks on the Islamic Republic's controversial nuclear programme, a Turkish diplomat said on Friday.
Posted by: Fred || 06/24/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Why go to Iran? The Turkies only have to go up to the Golan heights where Syrai and Iran are doing a deal to wipe Israel.
J
Posted by: Hupaith Unereth6428 || 06/24/2006 18:13 Comments || Top||



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