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-Lurid Crime Tales-
28 years in prison for Kwame Kilpatrick
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/11/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Kilpatrick, who was elected mayor in 2001 at age 31 and is the son of a former senior member of Congress.

Sir Isaac Newton, gravity, and the apple not falling far from the tree?
Posted by: Bobby || 10/11/2013 6:09 Comments || Top||

#2  He will be 71 years old when he gets out of prison, unless he gets time off credit for "good behavior". I wonder if his wife Carlita Kilpatrick will be waiting at the gates of the prison when he gets out ?
Posted by: Jugum Speaking for Boskone8065 || 10/11/2013 10:17 Comments || Top||

#3  Now that the trial is behind him he can run for Mayor again, and they'll reelect him!

Ref:
Alcee Hastings
Adam Clayton Powell
Marion Barry
Charlie Rangel

Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 10/11/2013 10:48 Comments || Top||

#4  Now that the trial is behind him he can run for Mayor again, and they'll reelect him!

If there's anybody left in Detroit by then.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 10/11/2013 11:39 Comments || Top||

#5  God Dayum - I don't like the guy at all but 28 years is a long time. It will cost more to lock him up that long than he ripped off.
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 10/11/2013 12:51 Comments || Top||

#6  Guess what one word is not used in the article to describe Mr. Kilpatrick's party affiliation?

Name That Party! Any takers?
Posted by: Raj || 10/11/2013 13:12 Comments || Top||

#7  Swat Faction?
Posted by: Shipman || 10/11/2013 14:48 Comments || Top||

#8  He's definitely a contender for the Robert Mugabe lifetime achievement award.
Posted by: Pappy || 10/11/2013 15:13 Comments || Top||

#9  October 2013 to January 2017 is far less than 28 years.
Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660 || 10/11/2013 16:55 Comments || Top||

#10  'Ref:
Alcee Hastings
Adam Clayton Powell
Marion Barry
Charlie Rangel'

Posted by GolfBravoUSMC


you forgot Colman A Young - his mentor.
Posted by: linker || 10/11/2013 18:42 Comments || Top||

#11  Twenty eight years means he'll be out (and running for re-election) in 10.

Will this be Fed country club prison or PMITA prison?
Posted by: SteveS || 10/11/2013 21:19 Comments || Top||

#12  #2 I wonder if his wife Carlita Kilpatrick will be waiting at the gates of the prison when he gets out?

"B----, you bring me these g------ cotton dra... you know I don't wear no f-----' cotton drawers!"
Posted by: Zenobia Floger6220 || 10/11/2013 21:40 Comments || Top||


-Land of the Free
Obamacare Lawsuits Roundup
Health Care Lawsuits is an informational resource on legal challenges to the Affordable Care Act. Since 2010, we've been tracking scores of cases challenging various parts of the law.

The health reform law has already been to the Supreme Court once, and it will likely return. Get informed now!
A good source for the many cases wending their way through the courts.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/11/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Interesting thing about the ACA: No severability clause. If one part is struck down, it is possible the entire law can be struck from the books.
Posted by: OldSpook || 10/11/2013 1:55 Comments || Top||

#2  Anybody know who likes to play at the course? I mean, who had enough pull to keep it open?

Not that he had to say anything; everyone from the top down to the greens keeper understood it had to remain open. It's not open to the rest of the world, anyway. No benefit to closing it.
Posted by: Bobby || 10/11/2013 6:29 Comments || Top||

#3  ACA will not be struck down, it is a tax after all, I can not think of any tax that has been eliminated by Congress, only morphed into some other tax in the last 100 years.

Other minds wish to chime in ?
Posted by: Jugum Speaking for Boskone8065 || 10/11/2013 10:24 Comments || Top||

#4  As people eventually discover the premiums and annual deductibles [which are now hidden due to 'SW glitches], it will clearly be seen for what it is, a "tax".

A government that can globally monitor and store tellie conversations and e-mail, but cannot build a successful web-site after 3+ years and over $300 Billion dollars spent ?

Whom is bullshi**ing whom ?


Posted by: Besoeker || 10/11/2013 10:31 Comments || Top||

#5  The SCT tax ruling had to do with the individual mandate -- which in a way was struck down. Majority held that Congress had no authority to make people buy anything. This is significant in its own way -- from 1937 to 1994 not one law was held unconstitutional for lack of Congressional authority.

Roberts said Congress could tax you which left the penalty in place. So they can't make you buy, but they can punish you for not buying -- and what is a tax if not a punishment?

Other parts of ObamaCare will almost certainly be struck down -- I'm thinking of provisions which limit religious freedom. Will the SCT throw out the entire law on that basis (and lack of severability)? Hard to say, but I would love to see it.

In the meantime, my personal favorite legislative attack is to permanently reduce the "tax" portion -- the penalty -- to $1. That makes it optional, which makes it a dead letter. All the House GOP need say is that they are cutting taxes.
Posted by: Iblis || 10/11/2013 10:41 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Republicans Offer 6-Week Debt Extension
[An Nahar] U.S. House of Representatives Speaker John It is not pronounced 'Boner!' Boehner
... the occasionally weepy leader of House Republicans...
said Republicans would vote to extend the government's ability to borrow money for six weeks, averting a default for now -- but only if President Barack Obama
Jedi mind meld...
first agrees to fresh negotiations on spending cuts. Under the Republican plan, the separate partial government shutdown would continue.

White House front man Jay Carney said Obama "would likely sign" a bill with no conditions attached increasing the debt cap. He said the president also wants Republicans to reopen the government. But he did not rule out Obama agreeing to the debt ceiling proposal if the government remains closed.

Boehner produced the proposal as the partial shutdown entered its 10th day. Separately and more ominously, the administration has warned that unless the federal debt ceiling is raised, the government will deplete its ability to borrow money by next Thursday, an event officials have warned could trigger an unprecedented U.S. financial default that could wound the world economy as well as America's.

"I would hope the president would look at this as an opportunity and a good faith effort on our part to move halfway, halfway to what he's demanded, in order to have these conversations begin," Boehner told news hounds after presenting the plan to rank-and-file Republican politicians.

Carney said the White House has yet to see a specific proposal from House Republicans. Boehner and other members of his caucus are scheduled to meet with the president at the White House Thursday afternoon.
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So the Pubs blinked first, and Champ is further emboldened.

So why can't our leaders appreciate how others see the US when we "blink first"?
Posted by: Bobby || 10/11/2013 6:31 Comments || Top||

#2  Is it blinking first or offereing up deals that they know Obama won't take and that will make Obama look worse.

The more the GOP can position themselves as the ones willing to negotiate against Obama's "won't talk" attitude the better. Also the longer it drags out the worse the Obamacare implementation looks and the more reasonable the one year delay the GOP proposed seems to the average person.

I think the Republicans have the better hand in the long run.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 10/11/2013 10:20 Comments || Top||

#3  Carney said........

Pet waste, on the jogging trail of life.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/11/2013 10:26 Comments || Top||

#4  I'm thinking this was a clever move. Champ wants to cloud the issue by talking debt cap. House takes debt cap off the table. ObamaCare is a winner. Default is a loser (even if it's not in question, the Dems are making that the issue). So we stay on message on ObamaCare. Works for me.

Believe me, I'm the first to suspect that the House GOP Leadership is even now crafting clever new ways to roll over. I just don't think this is their move.
Posted by: Iblis || 10/11/2013 10:44 Comments || Top||

#5  I'm against this offer, since it trades something real, like MONEY, for talk...
Posted by: Ptah || 10/11/2013 10:44 Comments || Top||

#6  Six weeks puts it near the Thanksgiving holiday. I'm not crazy about the extension, but the timing at the end of it is right.
Posted by: Pappy || 10/11/2013 10:47 Comments || Top||

#7  I'm not for it. Deal with the issues NOW. Don't wait for a new contrived crisis, or real crisis such as an Israeli-Iranian war.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/11/2013 11:01 Comments || Top||

#8  Good news! The most wasteful entity in the country is going to borrow even more money, IN YOUR NAME!
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/11/2013 11:45 Comments || Top||

#9  Boehner and Kantor negotiated who was going to bend off for Obama while Reid and Pelosi watched.

The winner gets screwed and the loser gets to clean up the mess with an american flag.

What a watse of time; they could of bent over 2 weeks ago and made America get to bankruptcy 2 weeks faster.
Posted by: airandee || 10/11/2013 13:50 Comments || Top||

#10  Out of curiosity, what did the GOP get last time it negotiated to raise the debt ceiling?
Posted by: Iblis || 10/11/2013 13:59 Comments || Top||

#11  Ever think of incorporating the proviso that no one under 18 is obligated to pay any portion of any further extended debt and that servicing of that extended debt will be removed from allocations for Social Security. You'll suddenly get a lot of attention.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/11/2013 15:43 Comments || Top||

#12  Don't be silly, P2K, Obama will eventually tax the rich into utopia, as soon as those evil Pubs wake up and smell the coffee, realizing they are doomed. Things'd be swell if it weren't for those greedy fat cats trying to starve the poor folks into actually working for a living.

You don't have to be a genius to spout it!
Posted by: Bobby || 10/11/2013 17:26 Comments || Top||

#13  Maybe it's because I majored in math rather than economics or political science, but I don't understand why we even bother to have a debt limit. Every year during the Obama administration, the US had run up TRILLION dollar deficits. No matter what we set the debt limit to, we will, by definition, bump into it unless we raise income or reduce spending or both.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 10/11/2013 19:43 Comments || Top||

#14  "It is not pronounced BONER" - I sezzes it like I seez it.

Boehner is getting criticized all over FREEREPUBLIC + other Rightist-Conservative Blogs this AM, to the point where it is claimed his job as House Speaker is now at risk???

OTOH many Perts on the MSM-Net claim that the US is collecting more than enough revenue to pay its obligations, thus there is no need for the Bammer + Dems to raise the Debt Limit save to directly or indirectly INTENTIONALLY RAISE/EXPAND THE DEBT BURDEN JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN.

IOW, THE FED INTENDS TO EXPAND ITS INCREASE ITS OBLIGATIONS, NOT REDUCE, CONSOLIDATE, OR KEEP SAME TO A MINIMUM BECAUSE OF FUNDAMENTAL "SCARCE TAXPAYER DOLLARS".
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/11/2013 19:45 Comments || Top||


Government
Andrews AFB golf course remains open despite shutdown.
[Breitbart] Like the survivor benefits denied our nation's dead, undoubtedly a DoD and congressional budget oversight.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/11/2013 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well, it has been raining in the WDC area for the last few days, but this is one of two "local area" golf courses the president & et. al. play golf at (the other one is Fort Belvior, Virginia).

No one expects the president "to be without" now do they ?
Posted by: Jugum Speaking for Boskone8065 || 10/11/2013 10:21 Comments || Top||

#2  To be fair, most of the military's non-appropriated-funded facilities, including sports and recreation, are still open/operating at reduced levels.

IMNSHO, this is a lousy territory to pick a fight over. Especially when there are dozens of other, more valid ones.
Posted by: Pappy || 10/11/2013 10:45 Comments || Top||

#3  But they took out the ball washers, so now obooboo has to play with his dirty balls
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/11/2013 13:45 Comments || Top||

#4  Oh I'm sure there are plenty of 'journalists' available to wash Obama's balls for him...
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/11/2013 14:00 Comments || Top||

#5  Tongue bath, no doubt...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/11/2013 17:00 Comments || Top||



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Fri 2013-10-11
  Libya PM 'Freed' after Several Hours Held by Militia, Calls for Calm
Thu 2013-10-10
  Libyan Prime Minister Zeidan kidnapped by gunmen
Wed 2013-10-09
  Egypt Strips Muslim Brotherhood of NGO Status
Tue 2013-10-08
  Egypt: Huge Explosion Hits Security HQ In Sinai
Mon 2013-10-07
  SEAL Strike on Shaboob Big Turban Fails in Somalia
Sun 2013-10-06
  Abu Anas al-Libi snatched
Sat 2013-10-05
  Boko Haram: 186 killed, 15 arrested as Military raids insurgents' camp in Yobe
Fri 2013-10-04
  Belgium Extradites Nisar Trabelsi to U.S.
Thu 2013-10-03
  Iranian cyber warfare commander shot dead in suspected assassination
Wed 2013-10-02
  Iraq Executes 23 People in Two Days
Tue 2013-10-01
  Drone strike in North Waziristan kills two, injures one
Mon 2013-09-30
  US drone kills three in Pakistan
Sun 2013-09-29
  Boko murders up to 50 students in their sleep
Sat 2013-09-28
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  Peshawar Bus Bombing Kills 17 Govt Employees


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