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2009-01-03 Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Hamas: the movement that just won't die
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Posted by ryuge 2009-01-03 05:42|| || Front Page|| [2 views ]  Top

#1 Movement that Just Won't Die. Their followers? Not so much
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2009-01-03 08:28||   2009-01-03 08:28|| Front Page Top

#2 Twenty-one years? Not bad. How long have the Jews survived surrounded by enemies? Now that's impressive.
Posted by Richard of Oregon 2009-01-03 11:09||   2009-01-03 11:09|| Front Page Top

#3 why is this propaganda posted on rantburg?
Posted by rabid whitetail 2009-01-03 15:45||   2009-01-03 15:45|| Front Page Top

#4 Know your enemies, rw?
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2009-01-03 16:15|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]  2009-01-03 16:15|| Front Page Top

#5 I liked this,

"...At the Al-Haras mosque in Hebron, Mr. al-Qawasmeh fingered his amber prayer beads and noted that "since 1924, when the [Islamic] caliphate was ended, the West has enjoyed the comfort" of the absence of Islam's influence.

"Only in the last few years has Islam posed a threat to the West and others," he said, "and only now have they begun to realize they will have to learn to live with us again."
Posted by mhw 2009-01-03 19:10||   2009-01-03 19:10|| Front Page Top

#6 "and only now have they begun to realize they will have to learn to live with us again."

"live with" does not equal "tolerate without consequences". It means "misbehave and reap the whirlwind"
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2009-01-03 19:15||   2009-01-03 19:15|| Front Page Top

#7 "only now have they begun to realize they will have to learn to live with us again"

Ummmmm - no, we don't. We have the capability to eliminate the whole damn lot of you.

That we don't indicates our stupidity compassion and decency. But you have it within your power to change that....
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2009-01-03 19:56|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]  2009-01-03 19:56|| Front Page Top

#8 "Only in the last few years has Islam posed a threat to the West and others," he said, "and only now have they begun to realize they will have to learn to live with us again."

This part of what the muslim said is right. The question is, when do we stop pretending that if we say dire and threatening things they might stop pressing, and realise that the time for pressing back, hard, is here. In lieu of being tolerant and disdainful in hopes of prompting a more civil response, we need to press back hard, and confrontationally, every time. Imagine the reactions when they get confronted by people who just don't put up with their bullshit anymore. No victiom games, no race/religion game, just confrontation against their never-ending attempts to erode Western civilization and incrementally gain purchase, benefits, exceptions, and all the while subverting us in every way they can. The confrontation needs to start for each of us, in our own way, in our everyday lives. Stopping the call for prayer being broadcast loudly in your local community. Scrutiny of public activities at the mosque and the associated madrassah. Uncompromising resistance to requests for special rooms at the public facilities like airports, schools and hospitals unless equal accommodations are provided for all other religions. Scrutiny of texts and materials in schools.... you get the drift.
These folks don't want to assimilate, they are colonizing, creating little cultural no-go zones, with demands for sharia status to follow...
WAKE UP!
Posted by NoMoreBS">NoMoreBS  2009-01-03 20:51||   2009-01-03 20:51|| Front Page Top

#9 The question is, when do we stop pretending that if we say dire and threatening things they might stop pressing, and realise that the time for pressing back, hard, is here.[?]

Two years ago.

Do I hear three?
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-01-03 21:15||   2009-01-03 21:15|| Front Page Top

#10 March 2003 is almost six years ago, Nimble Spemble. Two years ago there was a local change of tactics, not strategy, I think.
Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife  2009-01-03 22:15||   2009-01-03 22:15|| Front Page Top

#11 These folks don't want to assimilate, they are colonizing, creating little cultural no-go zones, with demands for sharia status to follow...

YUP. This is jihad. And they know we are slow on the uptake. They also know that the average American doesn't really know jack about Islam--which if to their advantage.
Posted by ex-lib 2009-01-03 22:51||   2009-01-03 22:51|| Front Page Top

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