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2013-01-09 Economy
Obama EPA regulations kill 15 power plants, 480 jobs in Georgia
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Posted by Fred 2013-01-09 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [251 views ]  Top

#1 Not just Georgia. This is happening in many states. I have seen it in my Ti-State area.
Costs will only go up and up "to infinity and beyond". "Government" that doesn't care anymore.
Posted by Dale 2013-01-09 09:10||   2013-01-09 09:10|| Front Page Top

#2 Kills? How about Power Plant Violence Prevention?
Posted by JohnQC 2013-01-09 09:37||   2013-01-09 09:37|| Front Page Top

#3 While I'm usually the first to jump on this stuff, let us note that EPA is doing this because of a court ruling against them by the State of NJ.

Local news here in Atlanta stated that GA Power will only close 3 plants and replace them with cheaper natural gas plants. That seems to be an economic win-win to me, who lives here and will pay the cost. I honestly didn't even know we still had oil fired plants in GA and Natural Gas is something we can produce domestically (another win-win).
Posted by BA 2013-01-09 10:14||   2013-01-09 10:14|| Front Page Top

#4 Burning Natural gas?
That'll cause CO2, and that's illegal.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-01-09 10:18||   2013-01-09 10:18|| Front Page Top

#5 Big Jim, I think GA Power has the "big picture" in mind. They are moving forward with new nuke reactors at 2 of our nuclear plants. Hope that the NRC gives approval....
Posted by BA 2013-01-09 10:25||   2013-01-09 10:25|| Front Page Top

#6 Also, to further clarify my original post, EPA is implementing mercury rules (Clean Air Act) because of the federal D.C. District's ruling against EPA in a lawsuit brought by NJ (not a NJ state court ruling, as my original post implies).....

And, for full disclosure, I work for the EPA (albeit in the wastewater arena, not air).
Posted by BA 2013-01-09 10:27||   2013-01-09 10:27|| Front Page Top

#7 Nke reactors?

Seems OK, wnat about the long term storage of "Spent" fuel, No answer?
Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-01-09 10:34||   2013-01-09 10:34|| Front Page Top

#8 Don't know and won't opine on long-term storage of spent fuel.....

However, nuke reactors "solve" the GHG emissions issues....
Posted by BA 2013-01-09 10:47||   2013-01-09 10:47|| Front Page Top

#9 Also, the below link shows that it is proposing to close 15 units at 4 power plants. That's the confusion, I guess.

Linky
Posted by BA 2013-01-09 11:05||   2013-01-09 11:05|| Front Page Top

#10 BA, how long between the closure of the currently operating units and the opening of the gas-fired ones? I have to assume there is no firm start-up date for the nuclear power plants...
Posted by trailing wife 2013-01-09 13:32||   2013-01-09 13:32|| Front Page Top

#11 Georgia Power plans to close 11 of the plants on the exact day the EPA's new mercury regulations are set to take effect,

So we are getting mercury out of our power plants while we bring it into our homes in the form of curly light bulbs. Yeah, I'm sure that is better somehow.
Posted by SteveS 2013-01-09 13:34||   2013-01-09 13:34|| Front Page Top

#12 Not sure, TW, but here they have until next July/August to do so. I think (not sure about this) GA Power built several NG fired plants years ago to handle "peak demand" times (hot summer days). Maybe they can use those (although I doubt it'll replace 2 GWatts) and/or quickly build new NG units.

I believe GA Power (when it saw the NE brownouts a few years ago) went into high gear to build extra capacity. Even in last summer's extreme heat here (we had more days of 90+ than we've had for a while), we never experienced brown-outs, so obviously there's capacity. I'm just not sure how much.

Finally, the 3 plants they listed were outside of a lot smaller towns (which probably means more consistent use of the grid), so I'd like to think that GA Power has planned for this. The plants they listed on radio were outside of Brunswick (extreme SE Georgia), near Savannah and outside of Newnan (SW of Atlanta). Also, I'd guess that Brunswick has been hit hard as it's an industrial town and in O's economy, a lot of plants there have been shuttered (further decreasing electrical demand).

I honestly have no (environmental) dog in this fight. Just want to be transparent myself and show fallacies in some opinion pieces, is all.
Posted by BA 2013-01-09 15:31||   2013-01-09 15:31|| Front Page Top

#13 
So we are getting mercury out of our power plants while we bring it into our homes in the form of curly light bulbs.


Gotta store it somewhere.
Posted by Rob Crawford 2013-01-09 17:47||   2013-01-09 17:47|| Front Page Top

#14 I honestly have no (environmental) dog in this fight. Just want to be transparent myself and show fallacies in some opinion pieces, is all.

Much appreciated, BA. More information is better. :-)
Posted by trailing wife 2013-01-09 20:09||   2013-01-09 20:09|| Front Page Top

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