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Posted by Besoeker 2013-01-10 05:20||
#3 As a humorous side note: the 'soon to be scattered red mist' is standing on a stack of stones because the cannoneers couldn't raise the back end of the carriage to lower the bore.
Posted by Skidmark 2013-01-10 07:50||
#4 Releasing him to the general population of the US Disciplinary Barracks at Ft Leavenworth would deduct days from his life. Given that the Military Court of Appeals won't approve a death sentence, it'd be much cred among the inmates for doing the lad.
Posted by Procopius2K 2013-01-10 08:52||
#5 So, he talked, not wise, but not criminal either, Pictures of a Machine gun crew shooting civilians, is NOT criminal, not nearly as criminal as the shooters.
As you can tell, I'm torn by this one.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-01-10 09:59||
#6 Not being the document(s) originator or classifier, this boyish private was not authorized to release classified information. It really doesn't matter however, POTUS is obviously authorized, and the results are alarmingly similar.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-01-10 10:07||
#7 ["release" as in declassify for release]
Posted by Besoeker 2013-01-10 10:09||
#8 History will tell us right or wrong RedJim.
For my part the fellow violated a position of trust, indiscriminately. I have a sense we do NOT know all he chose to share. I also wonder if his choice was not the tipping point to world opinion, already primed to weaken by 'the posture of O'.
Posted by Skidmark 2013-01-10 10:47||
#9 So then, you think the actions of the Machine Gunners WERE all OK?
I think he did all of us a favor "Talking" And yes he asn't supposed to.
SO then Government Secrecy trumps all?
I don't think so, and neither did he.
THAT'S worth "Life at Hard Labor"?
Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-01-10 11:03||
#10 RJ, I never had the impression that the only documents Manning leaked were related to war crime cover ups; if so, I would agree that you have a point. And cover-up is not the same as keeping secret - even if crimes were committed, it may be that they were, and should have been, prosecuted secretly, so as to minimize collateral damage to our forces and operations.
Posted by Glenmore 2013-01-10 12:19||
#11 My understanding is he blew the cover of a large number of undercover informants.
The Taliban caught several dozen of them and executed them in creative ways that only jihadis can think up.
In addition this incident caused many informants to rethink the advantages of working for the United States. I can't say I blame them.
I would like to see private manning killed, cremated, his ashes embedded in a urinal and the urinal installed in an army barracks.
Posted by Frozen Al 2013-01-10 12:20||
#12 Alongside Julian Assange...
Posted by Grunter 2013-01-10 12:37||
#13 I like Frozen Als idea.
Posted by Rjschwarz 2013-01-10 14:20||
#14 Pucker up, Buttercup.
Posted by Muggsy Mussolini1226 2013-01-10 15:50||