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Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-01-12 02:10||
#2 The dead ambassador was a gun runner plus the American public have an attention span of approximately 17 seconds.
Obama's people are doing shuck and jive. And did we ever get the Ambassador's body back or is he still in a mail bag somewhere in his underwear and his body moldering with duct tape around his neck holding the plastic bag in place ?
Posted by Threater Flusoper9823 2013-01-12 06:37||
#3 At least you kept it short. That's a good sign, the Claws train well don't they?
Posted by Shipman 2013-01-12 07:50||
#4 Why the Benghazi Investigation Is Going Nowhere
Cause your guns are more important than their Muslim Brotherhood guns ?
Posted by Besoeker 2013-01-12 08:15||
#5 What if the State department was being used as diplomatic cover for an overseas intelligence operation? What exactly do you think that Clinton could say? Strange but it would explain the comical bumbling of the public officials.
I am reminded of that line from the Maltese Falcon,
"Joel Cairo: I certainly wish you would have invented a more reasonable story. I felt distinctly like an idiot repeating it.
Sam Spade: Don't worry about the story's goofiness. A sensible one would have had us all in the cooler."
Posted by Mike Ramsey 2013-01-12 10:34||
#6 #5 What if the State department was being used as diplomatic cover for an overseas intelligence operation?
Posted by Mike Ramsey 2013-01-12 10:57||
#8 The dead ambassador was a gun runner plus the American public have an attention span of approximately 17 seconds.
One thing I learned during my varied career was to form theories, but not conclusions.
It's possible that the CIA was running weapons. It's also possible that the CIA was there to prevent, or monitor, the flow of weapons going to groups like the Al Nusra Front or Muslim Brotherhood backed groups in Syria, Hamas, or AQIM. The last one is less likely than the other two. Benghazi is a port city, approximately 375 miles from the Egyptian border. There are decent roads between there, and Egypt has strong historical, economic and political ties there (Egypt armed some of the Libyan rebels). Therefor it makes more sense that Benghazi would be a seaborne shipment point to Syria (evidence indicates it is being used for that)or as a staging point for further shipment to Gaza.
The objective was to remove the US facility from the equation. It's possible that Al Qaeda or an affiliated group did the attack on its own. It's also possible, even likely (based on open-source information), that the attackers had significant support from an outside source, such as a foreign government or intelligence agency. Based on anecdotal, open-source evidence, it's likely that supporter is one that the US government either has a relationship with, or was cultivating a relationship.
And did we ever get the Ambassador's body back or is he still in a mail bag somewhere in his underwear and his body moldering with duct tape around his neck holding the plastic bag in place ?
The remains of the ambassador and the other KIAs were brought into Andrews air base on a military aircraft. There were news reports covering the event. Perhaps you were fondling yourself while watching snuff-flicks and missed it?
Posted by Pappy 2013-01-12 12:10||
#9 You don't think out loud often for us Pappy, but when you do, it is always illuminating.
Posted by trailing wife 2013-01-12 13:50||
#10 "There were news reports covering the event. Perhaps you were fondling yourself while watching snuff-flicks and missed it?"
Pappy shoots, Pappy scores. ;-p
Posted by Barbara 2013-01-12 13:56||
#11 Why the Benghazi Investigation Is Going Nowhere?
Simple. It¬'s more convenient that Benghazi remains an ¬"ongoing investigation¬" for as long as possible. The fact that that no one is asking (at least not in open hearings) why the hell was Stevens meeting the Turk on the anniversary of 9/11 at a location that was known to be extremely dangerous and lack proper security. Cause it sure as hell wasn¬'t for some run of the mill spreading democracy event. Let¬'s cut the crap. Steven¬'s last job was liaison to the Libyan Rebels. That¬'s intel ¬-- not diplo. Perhaps we can take some solace knowing that the perps most likely won¬'t see the inside of a US courtroom and will be dispatched the old fashioned way.
Posted by DepotGuy 2013-01-12 14:22||
#12 Because Obama wants it to stall and flounder, had he wished the truth, People would be in line to testify.
What GodBama wants, He gets (To end in 4 years)
Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-01-12 15:07||
#13 Pappy nails it per usual! Think what his assessment would look like if he still had access to SIPRNET and JWICS. :-)
Posted by Besoeker 2013-01-12 16:06||
#14 SOme time back, there was a suggestion that the site was coordinating the flow of arms from Ghadaffi's arsenals to the Syrian rebels via sea, and that the meeting with the Turkish ambassador had to do with an intervention message from the Assad's supporter, Vladimir the Great. It is curious that the attack happened after the Ambasador and the Turk spoke and walked the grounds. Perhaps the wrong answer was given and the Turks departure and cell phone call triggered what followed. A very Russian way of sending Champ a message about playing in the big game, not AA ball? Just an scenario, but it would explain why no one wants to talk, not knowing what the SVR/FSB may leak to questioners/reporters.
Posted by NoMoreBS 2013-01-12 17:10||
#15 #14 This has been mentioned as a scenario. Vladamir would stand to be a big loser should the rebels take over.
Posted by JohnQC 2013-01-12 19:12||
#16 Back in September, I posted my list of 'possibles'.
There hasn't been much change. Please note that there is no order of priority or preference here. The essential criteria (for me) was an actor with a high level of internal organization, sufficient intelligence capabilities, and assets (or ability to obtain and organize assets):
A mercenary contract group
Posted by Pappy 2013-01-12 20:26||
#17 Let's cut the crap. Steven's last job was liaison to the Libyan Rebels. That's intel -- not diplo
There is a fine line between the two sometimes.What matters is an ability to establish a level of trust and a line of communication with an ability, for the party one is establishing a liaison with, to have a plausible route of denial should the relationship be discovered or run into problems.
Often that takes diplomatic skill.
Posted by Pappy 2013-01-12 20:33||
#18 Perhaps we need real leaders not a bunch of dumb asses that sacrifice our people for a country that can afford to build a fucking ski slope in the middle of a shopping mall where temps reach over 100 degrees, perhaps they should fight for themselves and the us should find real allies,
Posted by Maggie Flomong2662 2013-01-12 22:33||