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2013-01-27 Home Front: WoT
P**ing and Periods - Straight Talk about Women in the Front Lines
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Posted by Frozen Al 2013-01-27 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [256 views ]  Top

#1 Excellent article. The blather that "all we want is an opportunity to compete for positions" is pure hogwash. It will never end at that. The gov't and military will [as they always have] insist upon verifiable results or numbers, which the system has always viewed as an indication of a program of successful inclusion. Commanders and leaders at all levels will be held accountable for inclusion. Failure will not be an option. While in the making for decades, this program will only be achieved by a dumbing down of established standards and capabilities. The feminization of the military along with it's destruction has taken a huge leap forward.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-01-27 03:16||   2013-01-27 03:16|| Front Page Top

#2 In other news: Dallas Cowboy's wide receiver coach welcomes Lolo Jones saying she will give us the speed and running depth we've been looking for.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-01-27 03:48||   2013-01-27 03:48|| Front Page Top

#3 So we up-armour a Winnebago, what's all the fuss?
Posted by Shipman 2013-01-27 08:40||   2013-01-27 08:40|| Front Page Top

#4 Do you recall the political storm created by the Commander in Iraq when he threatened to Court Martial the next female who got pregnant? For all recorded military history, men who have incapacitated themselves to avoid hardship and danger in the ranks have faced penalties up to death for such acts. However, as women have been added to the system and occupied even in just support functions critical position for which there are only ones and twos in the overall organization, the 'get out of jail' card provided by pregnancy has been played too many times. While hundreds of thousands of women have performed and serviced honorably, as any company or mid-grade officer and NCO can testify, thousands of others have played the system that would never have been tolerated had it been a male. Those company and mid-grade officers have been told repeatedly to shut up and get with the PC program. Now because a relative handful are pressing to break the senior officer position which are reserved to combat arms officer, another dysfunctional program that will give lip service to historical standards but will be operated by instead by EEO standards.

Way past the time that on a random basis, Congresscritter have to do a 4 month stint no higher than brigade level on the front lines. Consider it 'quality assurance' in making sure that the troops have the best training and security their government could provide. When that sapper attack hits the wires at Oh Dark Thirty, do you want the EEO in charge or people who can do the job?
Posted by Procopius2k 2013-01-27 09:07||   2013-01-27 09:07|| Front Page Top

#5 "women have performed and serviced honorably"

I'm sure you meant to type "served," P2k.

/pedant

*snicker*
Posted by Barbara 2013-01-27 09:32||   2013-01-27 09:32|| Front Page Top

#6 " Do you recall the political storm created by the Commander in Iraq when he threatened to Court Martial the next female who got pregnant?"

Actually, I was (am) good with that as long as they also court martialed the father. It takes 2 to tango. (Might have to wait until the baby is born to verify DNA. Women do lie, you know.)
Posted by Barbara 2013-01-27 09:39||   2013-01-27 09:39|| Front Page Top

#7 Way past the time that on a random basis, Congresscritter have to do a 4 month stint no higher than brigade level on the front lines.

I'll second that. Let them get some skin in the game. Let them ask and answer the question posed by William Bennet in another posted article here: "The question remains: What is worth defending? What is worth dying for? What is worth living for?"
Posted by JohnQC 2013-01-27 10:21||   2013-01-27 10:21|| Front Page Top

#8 You're correct Barbara. Me bad.

As for doing the DNA, I'm with you. However, the little 'loophole' is conjugal visits from spouses. Though maybe even in that circumstance in theater it might fall under - damaging government property? /rhet question

Posted by Procopius2k 2013-01-27 10:26||   2013-01-27 10:26|| Front Page Top

#9 First man that gets pregnant can be charged too...
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2013-01-27 12:03||   2013-01-27 12:03|| Front Page Top

#10 One doesnÂ't need any imagination whatever to imagine what will happen to women combat soldiers whom Islamists snatch from front line battle locations.

Unfortunately, the treatment of any soldier captured by Islamists will be savage. The question is how the response to those situations changes with the female hostage dynamic. The official line will be every possible action, as before, will be taken to rescue all captured soldiers - regardless of sex. But itÂ's foolish to believe rescue/negation procedures wonÂ't be modified if the soldiers are female.
Posted by DepotGuy 2013-01-27 12:06||   2013-01-27 12:06|| Front Page Top

#11 negotiation = negation
Posted by DepotGuy 2013-01-27 12:09||   2013-01-27 12:09|| Front Page Top

#12 Way past the time that on a random basis, Congresscritter have to do a 4 month stint no higher than brigade level on the front lines.

Great idea! Kandahar, Bagram. NO! I'll pick the grid.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-01-27 12:16||   2013-01-27 12:16|| Front Page Top

#13 Make that Battalion level, E-2 duties.
Posted by tipover 2013-01-27 12:27||   2013-01-27 12:27|| Front Page Top

#14 the wymyns should have to register for selective service now
Posted by Frank G 2013-01-27 12:31||   2013-01-27 12:31|| Front Page Top

#15  "women have performed and serviced honorably"

Maybe it's time for a new MOS.
Posted by SteveS 2013-01-27 13:12||   2013-01-27 13:12|| Front Page Top

#16 Congresscritter have to do a 4 month stint no higher than brigade level on the front lines.

Just think about that for a minute or two. Would you want any of the current congresscritters watching your back? Standing guard while you sleep? Sharing your foxhole?

They would probably tax the foxhole you dig and then fine your for violating some obscure EPA regulation.
Posted by CrazyFool 2013-01-27 14:14||   2013-01-27 14:14|| Front Page Top

#17 You got a point or two there.
Posted by JohnQC 2013-01-27 15:56||   2013-01-27 15:56|| Front Page Top

#18 Apparently the Fed-DOD is proceeding wid the premise that 19th-early 20th Century "Mahanism" as per Rising Iran + Rising China, etal. = no major war anymore thru 2050 iff not 2100, only "peacekeeping" = benign/minor wars.

AFAIK the Army-Marines is still planned for downsizing in coming years to circa 550,000 plus-minus for BOTH - pragmatically then, allowing women to serve in combat is a way of preempting + alleviating anticipated shortages in OWG "PEACEKEEPING" manpower [Males] that the Fed-DOD KNOWS will likely occur, espec vee a PROTRACTIVELY BAD US-WORLD ECONOMY = US DEFICIT, DEBT-LED US BUDGET SHORTFALLS/CUTBACKS.

Lest we fergit, one way to foster a US suborned to OWG + OWG NAU, etc. is via INTENTIONAL, PRE-PLANNED CHAOS/ANARCHIES WHERE MULTIPLE NATIONS ARE FORCED TO BECOME INTERDEPENDENT FOR THE SAKE OF MUTUAL OR COMMON SURVIVAL.

No major war anymore 2050-2100 because ...
- Nation/Region-specific economies are too troubled to start one.
- As per the US, US industries are now controlled by foreign Govts-Companies, hence the US cannot engage in unilateral or joint war widout the approval of same. AT BEST, A OWG-NAU SUBORNED AMERIKKA WILL NEED MANY MONTHS OR YEARS TO UNILATERALLY MOBILIZE IN FULL-SCALE FOR WAR.

As per OWG "PEACEKEEPING", USDOD = devol into a "1-1/2 Ocean" [less?] Total Force wid "2-1/2-to-3 Ocean" COMMITMENTS.

Reminds me of post-WW2 1946-1950 = FIRST KOREAN WAR + PRELUDE, when the US thought it could seriously or wholly demobilize from WW2 while opposing the rise + challenge of newly Nuclear, Stalin-led USSR to post-war Europe. NORTH KOREA LEADER KIM IL-SUNG BELIEVED THE DEMOBILIZING, EUROPE/SOVIET-FOCUSED, US "DIDN'T CARE" ABOUT POST-WW2 SOUTH KOREA, HENCE HIS INVASION OF SOUTH KOREA IN 1950.

The US was caught off-guard first by the original NOKOR invasion of SOKOR, then again by China's intervention at the Yalu. HISTOIRE' + THE "GREAT GAME" SAYS OWG-NAU, "PEACEKEEPING" HAPPY AMERIKKA CAN-N-WILL BE CAUGHT OFF-GUARD AGAIN, SAVE THIS TIME ITS ENEMIES WILL ALL HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-01-27 19:55||   2013-01-27 19:55|| Front Page Top

#19 FYI PRESSTV > KIM [Jong-un]: NORTH KOREA WILL DEFEND ITSELF AGZ US HOSTILITY.

DPRK doing an IRAN doing a CHINA???

ARTIC > KIM JONG-UN = US reaction to the DPRK shows that the US has reached the LIMIT/HEIGHT of its wily dastardly anti-DPRK strategy.

versus

* RENSE > THE DRONING OF AMERICA WILL TURN THE US INTO A WAR-FRONT | [Presstv] DEPLOYMENT OF DRONES ACROSS THE US WILL TURN AMERICAN SOIL INTO WAR-FRONT [Battlefield].

The good news is that Amerikka's future OWG-NAU Peacekeeping Babe-Soldiers won't have to leave home = CONUS to fight an enemy(s)???
Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-01-27 20:05||   2013-01-27 20:05|| Front Page Top

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