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2013-02-22 China-Japan-Koreas
Abe: Chinese need for conflict is ‘deeply ingrained’
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Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2013-02-22 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [275 views ]  Top

#1 Must be true - thanks to Abe's statement, the Chinese are po'ed.

Again.

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Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-02-22 02:07||   2013-02-22 02:07|| Front Page Top

#2 Yeah. They will NOT be happy unless others are humiliated and everyone kowtows to China, like the world should be. It was like that in the old days, then China was humiliated. Now the rest of the world needs to be humiliated so that the Chinese can feel better about themselves. The best way is through military conflict.
Posted by gromky 2013-02-22 02:35||   2013-02-22 02:35|| Front Page Top

#3 Now, that's rich---coming from a Japanese!
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-02-22 05:10||   2013-02-22 05:10|| Front Page Top

#4 Now, that's rich---coming from a Japanese!

The Chinese empire has expanded more or less continuously for 2000 years. The typical script was to demand something a neighboring kingdom found unacceptable and then invade. Or gradually occupy a neighbor's traditional lands while daring him to resist. In other words, like every other empire out there. Say what you will about Manifest Destiny, but our forebears actually paid for land taken from the Indians.
Posted by Zhang Fei 2013-02-22 07:07||   2013-02-22 07:07|| Front Page Top

#5 The Indians are in a difficult position.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2013-02-22 08:56||   2013-02-22 08:56|| Front Page Top

#6 With firewater?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-02-22 08:57||   2013-02-22 08:57|| Front Page Top

#7 With firewater?

Different Indians.
Posted by Frozen Al 2013-02-22 10:48||   2013-02-22 10:48|| Front Page Top

#8 I was replying to Fei.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-02-22 10:53||   2013-02-22 10:53|| Front Page Top

#9 I would say it is deeply ingrained in human nature and certain cultures encourage or repress it.
Posted by DarthVader 2013-02-22 12:30||   2013-02-22 12:30|| Front Page Top

#10 With firewater?

I believe it was trade goods and cash, some of which the Indians* used to buy alcohol. Let me put it this way - even when the Indian fighters defeated the rebels, rebel captives generally escaped with their lives. The aftermath of the Panthay Rebellion in Yunnan, more or less contemporaneous with the second half of several hundred years of Indian Wars, led to the Chinese massacre of 70K rebels after a surrender had been negotiated on the basis of a rebel amnesty. There are treaties, and then there are Chinese treaties.

* I've heard it said that Indians get drunk easy and they are mean drunks, meaning the average bar really hates them as customers - they provide a small portion of total revenues while creating most of the problems for the bouncers and other patrons. It's a weird conundrum, and I suspect it's genetic - Indians probably tend towards alcoholism much as Orientals tend to be problem gamblers.
Posted by Zhang Fei 2013-02-22 15:33||   2013-02-22 15:33|| Front Page Top

#11 The aftermath of the Panthay Rebellion in Yunnan, more or less contemporaneous with the second half of several hundred years of Indian Wars, led to the Chinese massacre of 70K rebels after a surrender had been negotiated on the basis of a rebel amnesty. There are treaties, and then there are Chinese treaties.

But there are rebels, and then there are rebels. Those guys got treated much more harshly than Zhang Xianzhong (for instance). They captured him but _let him go_ repeatedly.

(And between the last time they let him go and the Manchu killed him, he killed roughly 3 million people in Sichuan province.)

Zhang_Xianzhong
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2013-02-22 15:48||   2013-02-22 15:48|| Front Page Top

#12 Please excuse that last line, I'm having minor computer cut-and-paste problems.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2013-02-22 15:49||   2013-02-22 15:49|| Front Page Top

#13 I suspect it's genetic

Actually it's more a question of the length of exposure---a lot of Europeans died of demon drink, once distillation was invented (and they were exposed to wine & beer for thousand of years before that).
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-02-22 17:14||   2013-02-22 17:14|| Front Page Top

#14 Kim: 3 gets you 7 I can kick that Sabre Toof
Joe: Cool, let me hold your beer.

Posted by Shipman 2013-02-22 18:05||   2013-02-22 18:05|| Front Page Top

#15 Kim: 3 gets you 7 I can kick that Sabre Toof
Joe: Cool, let me hold your beer.


ROTFL
Posted by Zhang Fei 2013-02-22 19:57||   2013-02-22 19:57|| Front Page Top

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