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2006-03-11 Europe
Spain counts cost of growing intake of migrants
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Posted by tipper 2006-03-11 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 "in the last three or four years we've seen an increased presence of foreigners in our lives".

Oops. Get ready for more of them:

An announcement is expected on opening the Spanish labour market to workers from Poland and other European Union newcomer states.
A recent EU report says that the free movement of workers was economically rational, adding that the three countries which had opened their labour markets - Britain, Ireland and Sweden - had benefitted. About 35 thousand Poles currently live in Spain. Link.

But that was just an aside, here's comes the big one, from May 2005:

Spain stands by immigrant amnesty: Spain is processing work papers for about 700,000 illegal immigrants already living in the country after holding a three-month amnesty.

Oh dear. Don't know whether to laugh, cry or both.

One thing that isn't mentioned, though, is that many Spaniards with certain in-demand skills leave Spain for better, higher-paying pastures elsewhere in Europe. This is just the nature of things. Poles arrive in Spain looking for work, probably doing stuff that Spaniards won't do (like picking strawberries), and the Spaniards move on to bigger and better things. So I guess what I'm saying is that Poles fill the role of Mexicans. Except that Poles don't hold their crotches for the camera.
Posted by Rafael 2006-03-11 01:14||   2006-03-11 01:14|| Front Page Top

#2 Disclaimer: that last statement of mine was in reference to a certain picture which I'm sure we've all seen here. Please don't label me a racist or something.
Posted by Rafael 2006-03-11 01:24||   2006-03-11 01:24|| Front Page Top

#3 So bring in Mexicans. They're hard-working and they're mostly nice people. They just got fonny assents.

yeah right we need 20 million more illegals.
Posted by RD 2006-03-11 01:50||   2006-03-11 01:50|| Front Page Top

#4 Spain requires 350,000 immigrants — who, according to a Spanish Government study, generate twice the levels of tax revenues they consume — every year over the next two decades in order to save its generous tax-financed pension system from bankruptcy.

Yeah right. Let's assume that immigrants will ever accept being taken half of their salary for sustaining people who are not their own. Specially if the immigrants belong to a predatory culture who tells them they are hereensvolk, and that the alien elders have had so few children that the immigrants outnumber the people able to bear arms
Posted by  JFM"> JFM  2006-03-11 04:14||   2006-03-11 04:14|| Front Page Top

#5 The de-reconquista continues. The Spanish are not replacing themselves. They can have muzzies or Mexicans. They chose Muzzies. Who thought the Spanish could ever make Franco look good.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-03-11 08:35||   2006-03-11 08:35|| Front Page Top

#6 It used to be when a country wanted a bunch of unskilled workers, it went to the country where those workers lived and conquered it.
Posted by Perfessor 2006-03-11 09:41||   2006-03-11 09:41|| Front Page Top

#7 I think the average impoverished Mexican has more sense than to migrate to a land which has no future....
Posted by Slaviger Angomong7708 2006-03-11 14:32||   2006-03-11 14:32|| Front Page Top

#8 You dont know to what point: Izqueirda Unida (ie Communist Party) has asked for the reopening of Cordoba's Cathedral (former Mosque) to the Muslim cult.

The Party who alied with the Nazis keeps the line.
Posted by  JFM"> JFM  2006-03-11 14:59||   2006-03-11 14:59|| Front Page Top

#9 yeah right we need 20 million more illegals.

That was all about Spain bringing them in, not us.

I agree re: illegals. But I welcome the majority of legal immingrants from Mexico and the rest of Latin America. The ones I know work hard, are great family people and more than earn their keep. And their kids will contribute a lot to our economy too.

Se basta.
Posted by lotp 2006-03-11 15:19||   2006-03-11 15:19|| Front Page Top

#10 And they'd do the same for Spain without as much language/cultural adjustment. This is so clearly a win-win that it is astounding the Spanish are not doing something about it.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-03-11 15:59||   2006-03-11 15:59|| Front Page Top

#11 Spain had quietly developed strong relations with many Latin American countries under Aznar. Now under Zappy the rhetoric is stronger but the actual aid and relations are not.

Go figure.
Posted by lotp 2006-03-11 16:10||   2006-03-11 16:10|| Front Page Top

#12 At least we won't have to deal with an effective Hispanosphere eager to avenge '98.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-03-11 16:56||   2006-03-11 16:56|| Front Page Top

#13 lotp,

I'm for all that is sweetness and lite. »:-)
Posted by RD 2006-03-11 18:42||   2006-03-11 18:42|| Front Page Top

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