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2005-06-15 Home Front: Culture Wars

Inuit to file anti-U.S. climate petition

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Posted by Steve 2005-06-15 13:47|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I'd love to see them in front of a jury, explaining how a rise from -25F to -20F (or whatever) threatens to melt the ice caps...

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2005-06-15 14:27|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-06-15 14:27|| Front Page Top

#2 You have "The Right to be Cold."
You don't have the right to snowmobiles, electricty, central heating, rifles, modern medicine, airtravel, and computers to type your silly manuscripts. Go native Sheila and come talk to us again in 10 years.

Posted by ed 2005-06-15 14:53|| 2005-06-15 14:53|| Front Page Top

#3 Hoo boy. What a dilemma.

Save the ice so people can hunt. Climate change v. shooting the cuddly animals.

Posted by Desert Blondie 2005-06-15 14:58|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com] 2005-06-15 14:58|| Front Page Top

#4 Watt-Cloutier said that Washington, the world's top polluter
Bullshit point #1. China and soon to be India are the world's top polluters. China actually has a brown cloud that reaches the US in the hight of summer. Can we sue China?

...not joined almost all its allies in signing up for the United Nations' Kyoto protocol, which sets caps on carbon dioxide emissions.
Bullshit point #2: Most of our allies are failing to meet their emission quotas.

U.N. studies forecast that global warming could bring more extreme weather with disastrous droughts, floods and storms.
Bullshit point #3: U.N. studies have been shown to be highly flawed and use the pollutant data from the 1970s and assume the world population will rise to 20 billion, when in fact the world's population trends most likely will top out at 12 billion, then decline.

It (global warming) could also melt icecaps and drive up sea levels, swamping coastal areas and low-lying islands
Bullshit point #4: Common sense science which is often ignored ... sadly by sciencetits. Fill up a glass with ice cubes and then put water into the top. Does the water overflow the glass when the ice melts? No. Frozen water takes up more space than liquid water. Frozen water in liquid water displaces the liquid. Most of the ice caps are floating on water. The levels of the oceans would not change much, only the ice on land would add to the sea levels and their isn't much of that. (I think I saw this on junkscience.com)

Posted by mmurray821 2005-06-15 15:47|| 2005-06-15 15:47|| Front Page Top

#5 ...also said Washington was hindering work to follow up a 2004 report by 250 scientists that said the thaw could make the Arctic Ocean ice-free in summer by 2100.

Sounds like they might want to switch to fishing.
You're welcome...

Posted by tu3031 2005-06-15 16:37|| 2005-06-15 16:37|| Front Page Top

#6 Inuit?

Oh, you mean Esqimau.

Lotsa luck, boys. Don't bend over near the French...

Posted by mojo">mojo 2005-06-15 17:03|| 2005-06-15 17:03|| Front Page Top

#7 mmurray821 - gotta disagree with you on bullshit point #2. She's right that we didn't sign Kyoto. That's all they want. A signature. Living up to the stupid thing is a whole 'nuther thing.

It's all in the nuance, baby! ;)

Posted by Desert Blondie 2005-06-15 17:07|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com] 2005-06-15 17:07|| Front Page Top

#8 I was talking mostly of the Koyto not being enforced while people whine about us not being a part of it. Clinton did sign it, but it was never ratified by the senate and thus never went into effect.

Posted by mmurray821 2005-06-15 17:35|| 2005-06-15 17:35|| Front Page Top

#9 In Europe, the Roman Warming lasted from 200 B.C. to A.D. 600. It allowed grapes and olives to be grown farther north, and good rains allowed the Romans to buy abundant grain from across the Mediterranean in North Africa. The Roman Warming was followed by the cold Dark Ages (A.D. 600 to 950). Weather is far less stable during the cold phases of the climate cycle. Widespread droughts and storms drove hordes of hungry barbarians to assault the granaries of the collapsing Roman Empire.

The Medieval Warming prevailed from about A.D. 950 to 1300, bringing ample sunshine, milder storms and longer growing seasons. Food harvests were so good that Britainâs population rose from an estimated 1.4 million people in the late 11th century to 5 million in 1300. Europeâs total population increased from 40 million to 60 million â during a period when temperatures rose higher than todayâs.

From 1300 to 1850, the planet shifted into the Little Ice Age. The good weather ended abruptly. During the summer of 1315, incessant sheets of rain fell from May to August throughout Europe, washing away much of the topsoil and beating crops to the ground. In late summer, the weather turned unseasonably cold, and the soft kernels of the few surviving grain plants were attacked by fungus. Across northern Europe, harvests were disastrous, and famine set in.
http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba/ba516/

Posted by Chalcas 2005-06-15 18:04|| 2005-06-15 18:04|| Front Page Top

#10 Most of our allies are failing to meet their (Kyoto) emission quotas. Kyoto has only one objective which is to decrease emssions of greenhouse gases and has a single mechanism for this which is to decrease consumption of fossil fuels. In fact fossil fuel consumption is rising in all regions of the world as a another thread
makes clear. Kyoto is an abject failure and in all likelyhood exacerbating the problem by simultaneously increasing fossil fuel consumption while decreasing economic growth. The worst of both worlds. They should be suing the UN.

Posted by phil_b 2005-06-15 18:36|| 2005-06-15 18:36|| Front Page Top

#11 Kyoto has only one objective which is to decrease emssions of greenhouse gases

and also, as Eurocrats have admitted, to "level the playing field" so that American companies are not as competitive as currently. It's not even an open secret anymore - it's a quote.

Posted by too true 2005-06-15 18:49|| 2005-06-15 18:49|| Front Page Top

#12 It certainly shifts the dirty work to the Indians, Paks, et al, which run the dirtiest ops....smart? Mischievous and antiamerican

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-06-15 19:18|| 2005-06-15 19:18|| Front Page Top

#13 Damn Ima (to steal a phrase) conflicted DB. I'll go with killing little furry animals.

Posted by Shipman 2005-06-15 19:54|| 2005-06-15 19:54|| Front Page Top

#14 Britt Hume pointed out that Rueters covers this same story every year as Sheila Watt-Cloutier seems to have made leveling this claim an annual event.

Posted by Super Hose 2005-06-15 21:45|| 2005-06-15 21:45|| Front Page Top

#15 Not to repeat myself, SH, but is fundraising (again, lol) involved, perhaps?

;-)

Posted by .com 2005-06-15 21:50|| 2005-06-15 21:50|| Front Page Top

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