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2005-06-20 Home Front: WoT
Fake Documents Got Workers Into Nuke Plant
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Posted by Laurence of the Rats 2005-06-20 14:59|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Maaybe something has changed but when I was there back in 93, 94, 95, Y-12 was not making bombs any more but was storing a lot of stuff. When the Berlin wall came down they got a bunch of Russian material as well to store.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2005-06-20 15:50||   2005-06-20 15:50|| Front Page Top

#2 
I wonder if that Mexican Consulate card will suffice.


It probably will. It seems to suffice for a lot of other things.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-06-20 16:10||   2005-06-20 16:10|| Front Page Top

#3 My father hadn't even heard of this incident, but he did have this to say:

"This report leaves more questions than answers. When did this occur? Where in Y-12? There are a number of areas that are considered to be in the plant where uncleared people can work. They mark almost everything official use only. Also, a construction site could mean buildings that are strictly support buildings or more probably associated with some of the cleanup that is going on. I assure you that no one entered the real security area where you must have your hand stamped from GOD to enter and you are strictly controlled even then."
Posted by Laurence of the Rats">Laurence of the Rats  2005-06-20 16:15|| http://www.punictreachery.com]">[http://www.punictreachery.com]  2005-06-20 16:15|| Front Page Top

#4 This was a bunch of Mexican laborers no doubt.

No Mexican construction worker/groundskeeper/restaurant worker anywhere in the country has real greencards, the guards should have noticed they were fake when they all had the same name, and were printed on a home computer.

The security guards probably don't even check these guys, they Mexicans not Arabs!

MM
Posted by Mountain Man 2005-06-20 16:26||   2005-06-20 16:26|| Front Page Top

#5 Deacon Blues - I believe that Libyan material went to Y-12 as well.
Posted by Laurence of the Rats">Laurence of the Rats  2005-06-20 17:03|| http://www.punictreachery.com]">[http://www.punictreachery.com]  2005-06-20 17:03|| Front Page Top

#6 Much ado about nothing. To get onto a construction site at a location, you need some regular 'ol ID. To get into a "restricted" area, you need a badge, issued by the security officer. To get into a "secret" area, you need previously said badge with color coded clearance, followed with the door combination lock and past the guard. To get into a "top secret" area, you need the above things, past several more guards and some have eye scanners and fingerprint scanners in addition to the keypad lock.

These guys got onto the construction site. Big whoop. Bitch about something else besides nuke plants MSM. And Gitmo or Abbu Grabbie doesn't count.
Posted by mmurray821 2005-06-20 17:07||   2005-06-20 17:07|| Front Page Top

#7 mmurry, I agree. The only way to get into the really secret sites was how you described. Even a Q clearance wouldn't get you into most places. I worked at all three sites in Oak Ridge.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2005-06-20 18:25||   2005-06-20 18:25|| Front Page Top

#8 I worked onsite at Y-12 on and off for 10 years. Security there is tight. I doubt these fellars got anywhere close to any real sensitive information. Lots of work on the DOE property is in unclassified areas. I dont think you even need a clearance for OUO.

It is a black mark for the security. They will have to explain how this won't happen again.

Some of this might have to do with DOE's unoffical set asides for minority and disadvantaged companies. PC forbids me to talk about this.
Posted by BrerRabbit 2005-06-20 19:59||   2005-06-20 19:59|| Front Page Top

#9 ...the guards should have noticed they were fake when they all had the same name, and were printed on a home computer.

"Thanks for your credit card... Mrs. Goldstein!"
Posted by Steve Martin (The Jerk) 2005-06-20 20:24||   2005-06-20 20:24|| Front Page Top

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