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#1 Notice how Mex police or Feds show up ... after the cartel assassins have already done the dirty work. It's pretty much a repetitive pattern down there. Funny how that always seems to work out, isn't it?
I'm guessing the CIA is trying hard to figure out who leaked the details of this visit by their employees. Obviously someone at a high level in Mexican intel is passing info to one of the cartels. It's a dirty place to do business.
Once again ... GREAT job in evasive driving by the person behind the wheel in that SUV. If they had reacted just a few seconds slower - everybody in that vehicle would be dead.
Posted by Raider 2012-08-31 00:43||
#2 Yes, **** the RSO, he's sleeping in, you know the drill. These are the usual choke points. If **** happens....I'll hit reverse...execute a "J" turn, weave and plow through the blocking vehicle hitting it's ass end if necessary. No stopping until we get back to town. Keep the windows up, weapons on safe, stay with the vehicle. Jake, you've got the radio. Everybody got it? Worst score buys the Corona. Let's go.
Posted by Besoeker 2012-08-31 07:41||
#3 Besoeker ... you got it. Somebody knew their route and the choke points exactly. Whatever the CIA is really doing in Mex - apparently it's ruining the breakfast of some cartel capo.
Posted by Raider 2012-08-31 10:32||
#4 Yes Raider, that 'combat driving course' paid off. Hat tip to the driver. He saved everyone's a**es. Appears it was a bit more than a few warning shots as I had initially suspected.
Posted by Besoeker 2012-08-31 10:58||
#5 I was thinking some more about this incident. IF the reports are true - always doubtful for Mexico of course - then it seems like the cartel put a lot of assets onto one hit. They didn't need 4 vehicles to get the job done. I am wondering if this was an attempted kidnapping ... in which case it would have been a very painful ending for the occupants of the SUV.
SLBFY = Save Last Bullet For Yourself
Posted by Raider 2012-08-31 12:52||
#6 Who needs Afghanistan when you have Mexico right next door?
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2012-08-31 15:29||
#7 Was thinking the same thing Raider. The way they got out and approached the vehicle seemed to indicate they wanted the occupants alive. And I don't doubt the cartels have some heavy-weapons that could have ripped apart that SUV "bulletproof" or not. The real question then becomes: Who exactly was so important in that Vehicle to risk so much reprisal?
Posted by Charles 2012-08-31 15:31||
#8 The heaviest weapon routinely used by the cartel shooters have been 40mm launched grenades. I have read reports of munitions such as Claymore mines, C4 charges, RPG rounds and commercial grade dynamite (Tovex) found in the bad guys' possession, but those are apparently used in VBIEDs, but not very often.
The cartels using an RPG or some other explosive weapon would be an escalation in this fight neither they nor their shooters would survive.
We have had this discussion over at Borderland Beat before and my contention is that the cartels suffer from a lack of technical expertise necessary to deploy any heavier weapons than the 40mm grenade launcher.
#9 Gotta' tel you ... if I was down in Mex doing a job like that - you wouldn't find me without ...
(1) A couple of experienced partners
(2) Everyone carrying 45 pistols and a rifle chambered in 7.62 x 51 (.308) - Not to mention a lot of ammo.
The USA has _got_ to change its ROE for Mexico. We can't just keep asking people to travel around with no personal weapons and relying on armored SUV's only.
Posted by Raider 2012-08-31 16:31||
#10 Meh...Afganisthan...it's really the russkie's problem now...and the Chineses...and the Indians. A few nukes of some poppy fields would get the mudjz thinking. Building that messy can fence would cost the same as two weeks of operation in the sandbox...
And tossing out the gangbangers would be nearly free! But you need to get rid of Hussein Soetoro first!