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2023-10-05 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Stunner: Russian navy withdraws from Crimean HQ
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Posted by Frank G 2023-10-05 11:42|| || Front Page|| [16 views ]  Top
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Posted by DarthVader 2023-10-05 11:48||   2023-10-05 11:48|| Front Page Top

#2 If you sail out to re-dock your ships at ports outside of missile and drone range, is that a retreat? I guess, maybe, but feel repositioning might be a better word for it.
Posted by mossomo 2023-10-05 12:51||   2023-10-05 12:51|| Front Page Top

#3 repositioning might be a better word for it

That is certainly true, but "Putin Perturbed As Black Sea Fleet Flees In Terror" is a much better headline.
Posted by SteveS 2023-10-05 13:02||   2023-10-05 13:02|| Front Page Top

#4 ^How about "Forget the counteroffensive Stop Russian Black sea fleet defeated Stop Send more money"
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2023-10-05 13:37||   2023-10-05 13:37|| Front Page Top

#5 Actually, a rational response when it's been shown you're on the target list.
Posted by ed in texas 2023-10-05 13:51||   2023-10-05 13:51|| Front Page Top

#6 Rational, yes.

But you just ceded control of the western Black sea to Ukraine. Strategic retreat/repositioning? Yes. But with the oil rigs you have given Ukraine carte blanche to hit all of western and southern Crimea.
Posted by DarthVader 2023-10-05 17:36||   2023-10-05 17:36|| Front Page Top

#7 Also think of this in game terms. You have to score 500 strategic points to win. This is worth 20-40. With the oil rigs, Russian navy gone and longer range anti ship and anti-air missiles being brought in Ukraine can ship grain unimpeded. The Russian blockade has gone from a farce to a complete joke and humiliation.

Wouldn't count out Russia in that area yet, but old Mr. 'Mo (momentum) has joined Ukraine and he is a bitch to get back on your side. Can happen. See the battle of Midway or Stalingrad, but hard to do and expensive in equipment and lives.
Posted by DarthVader 2023-10-05 17:41||   2023-10-05 17:41|| Front Page Top

#8 And what might be waiting off port?
Posted by Skidmark 2023-10-05 23:20||   2023-10-05 23:20|| Front Page Top

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