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2008-10-10 Home Front: WoT

"Why We Fight Now" - US Army Special Forces Command

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Posted by Besoeker 2008-10-10 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 by getting the movie aired on network television

Maybe The One will include it in his massive purchase of network prime time on Oct 29..... ooooppps -- I just woke up from a dream!

Posted by Sherry">Sherry 2008-10-10 00:19|| 2008-10-10 00:19|| Front Page Top

#2 I'll be looking forward to seeing this...but it still begs the question of why, why, WHY stuff like this didn't start being put together seven years ago. One of G-Dub's myriad mistakes in the GWOT was the failure to start up the modern equivalent of this outfit. I'm just an ex-enlisted squid with a commuter-school business degree, and even I knew on 9/11 that the MSM would be in full fifth-column mode in no more than six months, and that a successful war effort would necessitate getting the good guys' case out to the public over the MSM's heads.

Posted by Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) 2008-10-10 00:35|| 2008-10-10 00:35|| Front Page Top

#3 In addition to the Office of War Information Bush should have sold war bonds as a way for people to show their support, provide the gov with a flush of cash, and prevented the massive budget spending that occurred. Yeah I know they'd have to be paid back eventually but so will the deficit spending dollars.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-10-10 01:22|| 2008-10-10 01:22|| Front Page Top

#4 I agree - but I think we all share the blame. Bush got beat up badly starting on 9/12/2001 and we did not vocally and publicly stand up for him or for the war. Congress and the media respond to credible pressure, if it's large and loud enough. We didn't supply it. And so he caved and wiggled and spent like a drunken sailor to keep the Dems at arm's length while continuing the war.

Remember too that the military and the feds DID try some of this and got huge pushback from the left. So we ended up with the 'truth' firmly locked into everyones' minds: there were no WMDs, we kill civilians and torture prisoners, etc etc.

Posted by lotp 2008-10-10 06:51|| 2008-10-10 06:51|| Front Page Top

#5 I blame Bush.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-10-10 07:05|| 2008-10-10 07:05|| Front Page Top

#6 All wars have two fronts. The point of combat and the one at home. The generals at the Pentagon never have wanted to fight the second one. Go look at the effort in the national mobilization in WWII when the MSM was actually on our side. Now compare it to the efforts since. They outsourced the telling of the story to the MSM, who we pretty much understand worked as the conduit for the enemy. They never questioned their actions or veracity of their propaganda, but undermined and undercut our boys at every opportunity. That which they could not explode out of proportion, they literally made up. Now the Generals(tm) keep crying they don't want to become involved in politics. However, that means they have no say in the Home Front War. How has that worked out for them? They 'study' Clausewitz at the War College, but they ignore his dictum "war is nothing but the continuation of policy with other means". They're in politics whether they like it or not and they have to play the game.

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-10-10 09:02|| 2008-10-10 09:02|| Front Page Top

#7 I'm sure this will get plenty of air-time under an Obama Administration.

/s

Posted by Woozle Unusosing8053 2008-10-10 09:58|| 2008-10-10 09:58|| Front Page Top

#8 The generals at the Pentagon never have wanted to fight the second one.

There's a reason. Or maybe two.

Posted by General James Mattoon Scoot 2008-10-10 10:24|| 2008-10-10 10:24|| Front Page Top

#9 I'll be looking forward to seeing this...but it still begs the question of why, why, WHY stuff like this didn't start being put together seven years ago.

Because there were de facto restrictions placed on the military in getting their side of the story out on the domestic front? Seems I recall attempts to set up such things, which were not only met by alarmed cries of "propoganda", but threats of legal financial action.

Posted by Pappy 2008-10-10 14:02|| 2008-10-10 14:02|| Front Page Top

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