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#1 Texas and other conservative states has balanced budgets. Blue states are downing in debt and are digging deeper.
Who is it that will be on the corner begging who?
Posted by Voldemort Grereth1352 2012-11-14 14:27||
#2 Red states produce the bulk of the US military. Blue states produce the bulk of the US prison population.
Red states produce the bulk of the food and natural resources.
Blue states produce the bulk of the environmental regulations.
Posted by rjschwarz 2012-11-14 14:46||
#3 Texas produces 30% of the US wind power.
Imagine the cleanie/greenie export surcharge.
Oh, beef, and the TI chips or Dell computers, or...Whataburgers!
Posted by Skidmark 2012-11-14 15:03||
#4 One of the people in Tennessee who is calling for secession is a veteran who believes Obama is a destroying this country. He said he would rather die on his feet than be on his knees and enslaved.
Posted by JohnQC 2012-11-14 15:08||
#5 So why are so many individuals and businesses fleeing California and the blue states?
Posted by JohnQC 2012-11-14 15:13||
#6 Well the Northeast and California are still the biggest economic powerhouses in the land, just like the North was during the first Civil War.
However, unlike the first Civil War all the food belts are in the red states. Cut that off and most of the Blue states will starve. Plus most of the military has Red state affiliations and sympathies.
Give the Red states 20 more years and they will have just as much economic muscle as the Blue ones at the current rate of moves.
Posted by DarthVader 2012-11-14 16:08||
#7 Remember what one of the Founding Fathers about hanging together or being hung together?
What is what Islam will do to you if the United Staes begin splitting. Instead of cutting and running from Obama and the Democrats you should be thionking into doing waht is needed to restore some sanity into the now Nlue Sates until the Democratic Party begins losing elections 49 to 1. But no, you cut and ran from the MSM and let themů fall into liberal hands, you cut and ran from the Academoia and let them fall into liberal hands so now they are poisonning the minds of your children, you cyt and ran from the Blacks and now they vote for the Jim Crow Party.
Qo go ahead, cut and run from the United States, secede and if Kihadists don't kill you earler in twenty years you will be cutting and running from Dallas.
Posted by JFM 2012-11-14 16:16||
#8 We've got to get Washington State to secure Bremerton.
Posted by Shipman 2012-11-14 16:17||
#9 And something will have to be done about Frank G. and the Turbans, perhaps a Mexican extraction or maybe they could make it to the border given a decent off road vehicle safely secured from ex-wives enemy observation.
Posted by Shipman 2012-11-14 16:22||
#10 All New Orleans could bring to the table is control of the Mississippi River. Which, come to think of it, isn't bad.
Posted by Matt 2012-11-14 16:42||
#11 Shipman - just get the Olympic Peninsula (Which includes Bremerton and the Trident base) - except for the Port Townsend area. Maybe even throw in Whidbey Island (for Whidbey Island Naval Air Station).
Believe me you want the liberal in the Seattle-Tacoma metro area like you want a hole in your head.
Posted by CrazyFool 2012-11-14 17:00||
#12 Thanks Skidmark -- Save the Whataburgers!
Posted by Sherry 2012-11-14 17:19||
#13 My fear is that we no longer live under the rule of law in the US. Champ imprisoned someone for posting a video on Youtube. Regulators go after people who donate to the wrong party. We lost the Constitution 80 years ago, give or take. Now we aren't even living by the new laws that have replaced it.
I am interested in secession for the same reason a Cuban might want to catch a boat headed north.
Posted by Iblis 2012-11-14 17:29||
#14 Secession is not usually determined by the rule of law. However, the rule of law does not seem to be observed or respected lately. Secession is generally determined by a very costly armed conflict.
Posted by JohnQC 2012-11-14 17:48||
#15 I'd vote in favor of California seceding. And no, I don't live in California.
Posted by Cincinnatus Chili 2012-11-14 17:49||
#16 It might be better to have a civil war fighting against taxpayer-slavery.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2012-11-14 17:53||
#17 IIRC (and it's been a looooong time since I was in school), Texas was granted the right to secede as part of its agreement to join the Union. I believe they would have to split into 5 states (small countries?), but that shouldn't be a deterrent; no reason those states couldn't join in a confederation (kinda like Confederation Helvetica [Switzerland]).
I'm not really clear on the particulars at this distance from high school - and don't have time to research it right now. Anybody know more about it?
I'd be glad to emigrate to Texas if necessary; my Dad was raised in San Antonio and my grandparents lived there until they died, so it's not like I don't know and love the state. Don't Mess with Texas!
If not for my job (which at my age would be hard to replace in a new town), I'd move there anyway.
Posted by Barbara 2012-11-14 18:45||
#18 If the Libs actually agree with us and think this is a good thing lets get it done.
I'll be moving south.
Posted by Hellfish 2012-11-14 18:59||
#19 It's not so much Blue State vs Red State as much as Blue Urban vs Red Suburban/Rural. Not an absolute, but close enough.
Posted by Procopius2k 2012-11-14 19:41||
#20 Draw it along county lines - red counties remain in the United States of America and the Blue counties can form the Socialist States of America.
(Problem is - I live in a blue county :( - but I'm willing to move! )
Posted by CrazyFool 2012-11-14 19:55||
#21 I don't think there will be many who want to move into the blue area. We're in Carroll county NH, one of two red counties in a sea of blue. Massholes to the south, Maniacs to the east, and Vermin seeping across the western border. (Not sure wtf is going on in the North Country.)
A local merchant here in Wolfeboro said that he's happy to get his favorite neighbor (Romney) back, instead of ruining the town with a presidential summer home.
Posted by KBK 2012-11-14 20:10||
#22 See also WORLD NEWS > SECESSION FUROR COULD HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES FOR GUN OWNERS.
* SAME > WHITE HOUSE BEING FLOODED WID IMPEACHMENT, SECESSION PETITIONS.
* SAME > DANIEL MILLER: TEXAS HAS RIGHT TO SECEDE BECAUSE MAJORITY OF US ESTEEMS
"PRINCIPLES OF KARL MARX".
RELATED DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > [Cary Wise = Texas Nationalist Movement] SECESSIONIST LEADER: TEXAS SHOULD SEPARATE FROM MARXIST [US]STATES | [CBS.com] SECESSIONIST LEADER SAYS TEXAS INDEPENDENCE IN "INEVITABLE".
SAME > TEXAS PASSES THE 100,000 MARK, while NC, TN, AL, GA, LA, + FL have surpassed 25,000 at this time.
* CINESE MILITARY FORUM > [Archive.org = Michael Meara] TOWARD THE WHITE REPUBLIC, Rise of "White Nationalists+ + the desire by some for sovereign White/Euros-only homeland somewhere in North America.
ARTIC = While the majority of "White Nationalists" are racially-conscious/proud individuals whom are NOT in favor of secession, the move does include strict or extremist elements whom favor the establishment of an anti-pluralist "sovereign white homeland" in North America.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2012-11-14 22:39||
#23 I will say again that one way to justify or validate the creation of OWG-NWO + so-called "Global Federal Unions", e.g. NAU + EU/EUZ, is via WILFUL + PROTRACTIVE CHAOS/ANARCHIES. across Regions + Trans-Regiona, etc. to "force" INTER-STATE OR MULTI-STATE DEPENDENCIES.
The main drawbacks are not only incurring some kind of domestic backlash from local stratas, BUT ALSO THEORETICALLY RISKING NATIONAL SECURITY TO THE ADVANTAGE OF DEDICATED FOREIGN ENEMIES, E.G. RADICAL ISLAMIST MILTERR GROUPS + ANTI-US NATION-STATES.
IOW, the "forced", "anti-electoral" setting up of OWG + NAU, etc. garners more priority that militarily defeating or deterring one's enemies, to include the possibility of actually helping one's dedicated enemies to achieve MilPol Parity, iff not outright Superiority or Dominance, agz yourself.
NATIONAL + GEOPOL "SELF-SUICIDE" IN FAVOR OF MARXIST-SOCIALIST AMERIKA + WORLD ORDER, OR ISLAMIC/ISLAMIST AMERIKA + WORLD ORDER, where the only real question is how long before Global Marxist-Socialist + Global Islamo-Socialist formally declare "final/total victory" agz America, divorce, + then start waging War of Annihilation/Mutual Destruction agz one another???
"PRO-US" OWG = LIMITED ANTI-US OWG, IN THE NEGATIVE OR CATASTROPHIC, NOT PROACTIVE, SENSE.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2012-11-14 23:05||