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2008-11-30 India-Pakistan

10 terrorists had entered Mumbai: Police

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Posted by tipper 2008-11-30 01:04|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 they formed four groups and hired taxis to reach to their destinations.

You have to have lived in Asia to see the logic of heavily armed terrorists hailing cabs to get to their destination.

Posted by phil_b 2008-11-30 07:03|| 2008-11-30 07:03|| Front Page Top

#2 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=39a_1227998909

It seems they arrested the smiling terrorist and he didn't want to die, he's going to wish he did.

Posted by Grolush Darling of the Hatfields3195 2008-11-30 08:53|| http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=39a_1227998909]">[http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=39a_1227998909] 2008-11-30 08:53|| Front Page Top

#3 the smiling terrorist is probably not the leader and doesn't know everything

There may have been only 10 that this guy knows about but I'll bet they had some local accomplices and there may have been another team.

Posted by mhw 2008-11-30 09:53|| 2008-11-30 09:53|| Front Page Top

#4 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,459284,00.html

True, but he's surprisingly spilling beans and linked them to Pakistan and given some of the operation details. They must have applied some 3rd world torture techniques early on.

Posted by Grolush Darling of the Hatfields3195 2008-11-30 10:54|| http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,459284,00.html]">[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,459284,00.html] 2008-11-30 10:54|| Front Page Top

#5 It is called the "Indian Police Beating" (as seen in Bollywood movies).

Posted by john frum 2008-11-30 11:18|| 2008-11-30 11:18|| Front Page Top

#6 THey are not so bound by leftist vision of "proper" interrogation techniques as we are -- and expediency is important due to the possibility of quick followups.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-11-30 12:25|| 2008-11-30 12:25|| Front Page Top

#7 And unlike the USAF interrogator who is axe grinding in another article here, claiming torture is used by the US, there is no time to play mind games and "befriend" him.

If it will stop another attack, I say flay him.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-11-30 12:26|| 2008-11-30 12:26|| Front Page Top

#8 Doesn't seem like the numbers add up.

"After landing at Fish Market at Cuffe Parade near Colaba, they formed four groups and hired taxis to reach to their destinations. A group of two young terrorists entered Hotel Oberoi, four into Hotel Taj Mahal, two stormed into Nariman House while the rest entered the CST railway station from its mail trains' gate

Weren't there 10 incidents, with 3 of the terrorists gone in the car bombing at the airport?

And then the attacks at the police station and the hospital.

Then you have to figure there was a support network in Mumbai

Dunno seems like more than 10

Posted by Punky Chomolet7900 2008-11-30 12:50|| 2008-11-30 12:50|| Front Page Top

#9 The numbers have come down. Also the two captured British Pakistanis are no longer mentioned.

Either fog of war or the Indian intelligence has a future planned for them that does not include due process in a court of law.

Posted by john frum 2008-11-30 13:13|| 2008-11-30 13:13|| Front Page Top

#10 Did they really apply third world torture to break this guy is my question. Sure, they could have, but by now he HAS to know that he's a goner. Rantburg has been suggesting using pigs and such "evil rascist" techniques to get info for years, maybe the Indian government just offered to bury him in a hog farm if he didn't cough up the goods.

Posted by Charles 2008-11-30 13:29|| 2008-11-30 13:29|| Front Page Top

#11 They did. But not to him. I suspect examples were made of others and he was given to understand that he was in a strictly binary situation. New article regarding torture, all around, just posted. Might even have made Jack Bauer nauseous.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-11-30 14:39|| 2008-11-30 14:39|| Front Page Top

#12 Charles, do you really think a stone cold Muzz kook is afraid of a hog farm? It's like saying American Forces are afraid of burd flu.

Posted by .5MT 2008-11-30 15:23|| www.cybernations.net]">[www.cybernations.net] 2008-11-30 15:23|| Front Page Top

#13 Don't knock the bird flu. Foot 'n' mouth disease on the other hand...whoa.

Posted by Fester Creanter3194 2008-11-30 15:33|| 2008-11-30 15:33|| Front Page Top

#14 Yep.

Takfiri jihadis are allowed to eat pork and drink alcohol, consort with strippers and whores, so that they may deceive the enemies of Allah.

Ordinary Muslims are allowed to eat pork if that saves them from starvation.

Posted by john frum 2008-11-30 15:35|| 2008-11-30 15:35|| Front Page Top

#15 Charles, do you really think a stone cold Muzz kook is afraid of a hog farm? It's like saying American Forces are afraid of burd flu.

I suspect it depends on whether he's still alive when his delimbed torso is thrown to the pigs.

All this argument about whether "torture" works is besides the point, in a lot of ways. I doubt the North Vietnamese ever really got tactically or strategically important information from any of the prisoners they tortured. BUT: The North won their war. The kids of the torturers own factories where the kids of the guys in the South (those that didn't come to the US) work for $ 2/week making Nikes. At some level or another it worked.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2008-11-30 16:21|| 2008-11-30 16:21|| Front Page Top

#16 Yes Snowy, and it all Started with the gateway drug, Milk.

Posted by .5MT 2008-11-30 17:14|| www.cybernations.net]">[www.cybernations.net] 2008-11-30 17:14|| Front Page Top

#17 Look, you were the one who wanted to argue about whether brutality "worked." Well, look out at the planet, those governments that really are brutal seem to control a very large fraction of the human population.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2008-11-30 17:31|| 2008-11-30 17:31|| Front Page Top

#18 All I know is, anyone can break. Torture works just like suicide bombing. It's ugly and immoral but it's real.

Posted by Grolush Darling of the Hatfields3195 2008-11-30 21:55|| 2008-11-30 21:55|| Front Page Top

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