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2008-12-01 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iran would 'hit US warships' at war
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Posted by Fred 2008-12-01 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ]  Top
 File under: Govt of Iran 

#1 " The scenarios included offensives by Iranian warships equipped with Russian-designed Shkval torpedoes. "

They are assuming they will still be afloat long enough to get in range. Or even to get out of port.
Posted by OldSpook 2008-12-01 00:25||   2008-12-01 00:25|| Front Page Top

#2 Shkval wikipedia entry here.

I would think that a well-placed bomb would collapse the gas cavity around the Shkval or bend its guidance fins and the torpedo would be destroyed by running into a wall of water at 250kph. Might not even detonate.
Posted by gorb 2008-12-01 03:29||   2008-12-01 03:29|| Front Page Top

#3 It has been a long time since the USN has had one of its aircraft carrier groups fighting defense. By the time all was said and done, I imaging the Strait would be about twice as wide.
Posted by Anonymoose 2008-12-01 08:13||   2008-12-01 08:13|| Front Page Top

#4 If they truly believe their own statements, they will act. If not, they will continue to posture. At times, I wish they would attack so we could end this foolishness.
Posted by Richard of Oregon 2008-12-01 09:52||   2008-12-01 09:52|| Front Page Top

#5 Iran would 'hit US warships' at war

Huh, no sh*t.
Posted by bigjim-ky 2008-12-01 11:29||   2008-12-01 11:29|| Front Page Top

#6 And I'd get off my fat ass if dinner was served.
Posted by Grolush Darling of the Hatfields3195 2008-12-01 12:21||   2008-12-01 12:21|| Front Page Top

#7 provides the Iranian side with an ideal opportunity for launching successful counter-attacks.

Counter-attacks? There's a pretty big assumption, that even I can see.
Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife  2008-12-01 13:56||   2008-12-01 13:56|| Front Page Top

#8 If the U.S. struck first, which under B.O. I strongly doubt would happen, there would be about as many counter-attacks as there were from Saddam--that is to say, none. Iran might be hell to occupy but beating its military's ass in the field like a damn drum wouldn't be much of a problem.

If we take Iran down, we need to do it on a "we're bombing you back to the Stone Age--starve and die in the dark, bastards--basis. No more "nation-building" horsecrap. Just swift violence, massive destruction, and weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth by the unlucky survivors.
Posted by Jolutch Mussolini7800 2008-12-01 16:59||   2008-12-01 16:59|| Front Page Top

#9 IIRC the Shkval achieves its high speed at the cost of maneuverability. In fact, it is almost unguidable. As a result the launcher has to get within a few kilometers in order to have a chance at hitting the target.

Since I don't see American carriers comming within a few k's of the Iranian coast, the Iranians would have to come to the carriers. If they can get within a few km of an American warship and live, I'll congratulate them.
Posted by Frozen Al 2008-12-01 17:04||   2008-12-01 17:04|| Front Page Top

#10 There is an Axis between Russia, Iran, and Ven, maybe China.

There should be a contingency plan to crush every enemy and we should always be prepared.

With no diplomacy for Iran, I say raise threat for the new year. Ensure we don't let them get any fresh hostages either. They love hostages.

If it's not within 6 months, it's in the near future they try to pull some slick crap.
Posted by Grolush Darling of the Hatfields3195 2008-12-01 20:07||   2008-12-01 20:07|| Front Page Top

#11 No surpise here - this was another old dream/vision of mine like those Chin PLAN warships transiting close to Hokkaido, Japan.

The true threat or danger of SHKVAL lies in improved follow-on designs which combine supervelociy + stealth + independent maneuverab;e warheads[submissles], etc. essentially making the underwater dimension no different than the air, or even space, dimension as per anti-Naval or other warfare.

As said before, despite the rhetoric IRAN at this time prefers to keep a low-profile AMAP ALAP while it quietly or "softly" nuclearizes - IMO IRAN MUST DETONATE AN INDIGENOUS NUC BOMB = NUCWEAP NLT 2010, absolute maxima 2012.

TO BECOM A TRUE SUPERPOWER, ALREADY-A-NUCLEAR-STATE CHINA MUST GIVE UP ITS HALLOWED PRO-ISOLATIONIST POSTURE AND BECOM GEOPOL ASSERTIVE -DITTO IN LR FOR NUCLEAR-AMBITIOUS IRAN, ETC. WORLD STATES.

MILPOL DIALECTICISM > The ISLAMIST JIHAD = RAMPAGE AGZ RUSSIA, CHINA, + INDIA, etc. is asmuch for future NUCLEAR GLOBAL SUPERPOWER ISLAM [Space?], AS IS FOR "SAVING THE JIHAD".
Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-12-01 20:11||   2008-12-01 20:11|| Front Page Top

#12 HISTORY CHANNEL > "SPUTNIK" Programming > VLAD LENIN was quoted in late 1950's = POTUS EIsenhower-era US TV as arguing [paraph]"IT DOESN'T MATTER IFF THE BULK OF THE WORLD's POPULATION IS KILLED OFF OR OTHERWISE FORCIBLY ELIMINATED - WHAT MATTERS IS THAT THE THOSE REMAINING = WHOM ARE STILL ALIVE IN THE AFTERMATH ARE DEDICATED TO COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM".

Was LENIN = PRO-MUTUAL DESTRUCTION "MAD MULLAH"???
Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-12-01 20:18||   2008-12-01 20:18|| Front Page Top

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