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2010-12-08 Home Front: Culture Wars
WikiLeaks: hackers 'crash Mastercard site with cyber attack'
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Posted by tipper 2010-12-08 12:25|| || Front Page|| [1 views ]  Top

#1 Okay.. this is a crime... They committed it in support of WikiLeaks ... so shut WikiLeaks down.
Posted by Water Modem 2010-12-08 12:40||   2010-12-08 12:40|| Front Page Top

#2 Part of sovereignty is responsibility. Self appointed groups, regardless of their intent, at some point can start to believe themselves beyond accountability. 'We meant well' goes along with 'I was only obeying orders' when either believes they will not be held liable in the end for their acts.
Posted by Procopius2k 2010-12-08 12:46||   2010-12-08 12:46|| Front Page Top

#3 I'm all for tracking these jokers down with the espionage and corporate sabotage laws and killing them.
Posted by DarthVader 2010-12-08 13:05||   2010-12-08 13:05|| Front Page Top

#4 killing them.

I'm with you Darth.....This would end a lot of things..
Posted by armyguy 2010-12-08 13:23||   2010-12-08 13:23|| Front Page Top

#5 Assange also obviously believes he is unaccountable but he needs to be charged with a specific crime. While some have claimed he has done nothing illegal, only immoral, I'd bet some of his considerable sources of income would prefer to remain anonymous. In the same name of transparency and openness Assange and Soros claim to promote, perhaps he should also release the names of those purchasing info or any donors to the cause? Yeah, what I thought. "Operation Payback" is also another "applies to you, not me" deal.
Posted by Lumpy Elmoluck5091 2010-12-08 14:59||   2010-12-08 14:59|| Front Page Top

#6 They have now taken out Visa. Did it in less than one minute.
Posted by tipper 2010-12-08 17:03||   2010-12-08 17:03|| Front Page Top

#7 Water Modem: the hacking group acted independently of Wikileaks.

Wikileaks had no communications and nothing to do with them. So it's not Wikileaks that did the crime.

However, I think that shows you just how Outraged the general public is to see that an individual and organisation can be hounded by Government in such a way.

That the US Government can lean on Visa, Mastercard and Paypal to try to shut off supply lines to wikileaks is enraging to ordinary citizens, including me.

In our countries we are supposed to be free of political harassment. This is the preserve of foreign dictatorships.

Around the world people are voicing their support for freedom from Government harassment - by donating more than 800,000 euros to the Wau Holland foundation directly in defiance of paypal visa and mastercard etc.

People are protesting everywhere. It is disgraceful to see this level of persecution. It is underhanded and we the citizens don't like it.

Everyone of my countrymen I have spoken to in the last two days is just outraged at what is going on. If the australian government doesn't support assange we will be out in the streets protesting and they will be gone at the next election.

Posted by anon1 2010-12-08 20:59||   2010-12-08 20:59|| Front Page Top

#8 Darth and ArmyGuy: the only thing you are killing is the concept of the rule of law. You know, the cornerstone of our societies? That thing that makes us different from the third world...

They do that a lot in Africa, look where it got them.
Posted by anon1 2010-12-08 21:01||   2010-12-08 21:01|| Front Page Top

#9 the hacking group acted independently of Wikileaks.

That is going to be a hard sell. One of the beauties of these non-state actors is their loose organization providing deniability. Unfortunately we are at war and he's come too close to consorting with the enemy twice now. Sorry, in war, it's two strikes and you're out.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2010-12-08 21:03||   2010-12-08 21:03|| Front Page Top

#10 Anon1 trumpets wikileaks as a vanguard in the concept of the rule of law.

The same rule of martial law that PFC manning didn't follow when he divulged classified documents? Ya know, there is a law against that. be broken by when its convenient for your Mesiah? And hacking is illegal. So Anon1, explain how laws like the first Amendment need to be followed, but obeying other laws do not apply, and how that is okay, Anon1? I'd really like to hear about corruption from the corrupt and sick.
Posted by Fire and Ice 2010-12-08 21:19||   2010-12-08 21:19|| Front Page Top

#11  Anon1: If you post one more classified cable you will be banned permanently from this forum.

This is your only warning
Posted by badanov 2010-12-08 21:20|| http://www.freefirezone.org  2010-12-08 21:20|| Front Page Top

#12 Hmmm... contracts need to be let....
Posted by Water Modem 2010-12-08 22:40||   2010-12-08 22:40|| Front Page Top

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