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2003-11-03 Fifth Column

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Posted by Atrus 2003-11-03 10:06:46 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Moore can write or say anything he wants - I object to his media/Dem supporters labelling this tripe as a documentary, and any organization (can you say "Oscars") which accepts this fiction as a documentary loses their credibility as well. In a bit of delightful hypocrisy, Moore also has filed suit against someone "stalking" him with a camera - a la "Roger and Me" and his Lucianne Goldberg apartment camera stunt. The fat fu&k can't handle what he dishes out. He'll be history in 5 years, along with Franken

Posted by Frank G 2003-11-3 10:22:16 AM|| 2003-11-3 10:22:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 "He'll be history in 5 years, along with Franken"

-Frank, probably true. However, it's always good to have limosine liberal media whores around. Keeps us vigilant of what we are fighting against. On a side note, Dean should be embarrassed of Franken's behavior at that fund raiser some months ago.

Posted by Jarhead 2003-11-3 11:05:10 AM|| 2003-11-3 11:05:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Moore says

"There is a reason that I have never been sued over anything in my three books -- thatâs because everything in them is true."

actually, the reason is that the books are entertainment and thus it is difficult to make a case that you have been damaged by a mistatement (no one sues South Park or SNL successfully either).

Posted by mhw 2003-11-3 11:05:23 AM|| 2003-11-3 11:05:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Satire is virtually suit-proof, but I think he's treading dangerously by calling it a documentary. Additionally, it's difficult to prove slander/libel against a public figure IIUC

Posted by Frank G 2003-11-3 11:13:31 AM|| 2003-11-3 11:13:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Notice that Moore's excuse when challenged is that its "satire". In other words, he isn't even courageous enough to stand up and defend his muck as accurate, critical and opinionated. Can you imagine P.J. O'Rourke having to backtrack on any of his writings as just "satire" when in fact he is such a master he can defend them as being accurate, funny and critical discourse all wrapped up in one.

Posted by Jack is Back! 2003-11-3 11:40:49 AM|| 2003-11-3 11:40:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 It's funny how his message gets echo's. Here is an LA Times article repeated in Newsday: Report Ties Iraq, Afghan Contracts to Cronyism. The DNC must have a staffer assigned to zing the Halliburton frisbe out into the media once a week.

A company I used to work for, Nucor Steel, was a heavy backer of Clinton because they had several mills in Arkansas, but they have probably benefitted much more from Bush's disasterous foray into protectionism.

Posted by Super Hose 2003-11-3 11:52:25 AM|| 2003-11-3 11:52:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 However, it's always good to have limosine liberal media whores around.

Also because they keep the country moving to the center. You have to be an idiot or a true believer to be willing to admit that Moore represents your POV.

Posted by B 2003-11-3 12:05:54 PM|| 2003-11-3 12:05:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 However, it's always good to have limosine liberal media whores around.

Also because they keep the country moving to the center. You have to be an idiot or a true believer to be willing to admit that Moore represents your POV.

I disagree. Propaganda works. Most people are vulnerable to propaganda to one degree or another, and a I'll bet there are millions out there who take Moore's lies at face value. I know many people who have seen Bowling who haven't had the opportunity to learn what a crock of bulls*** it is - the media don't exactly shout about it, at least not in the UK. It doesn't help that Hollywood fawned over it, and disgracefully gave it the Oscar for Best Documentary [sic].

What Moore peddles are lies, on a big scale and they're told often. What was it Goebbels said?

Posted by Bulldog 2003-11-3 1:15:55 PM|| 2003-11-3 1:15:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Yes propoganda does work--look at how many Americans believe Saddam Insane was behind 9/11!
And BTW, this librul is still waiting on his limo--when do I get one?

Posted by Not Mike Moore 2003-11-3 1:59:52 PM|| 2003-11-3 1:59:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 NMM, everybody gets a limo ride in the end. :-)

Posted by Super Hose 2003-11-3 2:08:13 PM|| 2003-11-3 2:08:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Yes propoganda does work--look at how many Americans believe Saddam Insane was behind 9/11!

That number is actually very small. The left keeps adding together the number of people who think it's "possible" or "likely" that Saddam was aware or somehow involved, and then treating those people like idiots for having a better comprehension of world events than the left.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2003-11-3 2:39:34 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2003-11-3 2:39:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Propoganda does work. Often Michael Moron's 'truth's are repeated and 'quoted' as fact by the left. Sometimes these people know that it is a bunch of crap but use it nevertheless to legitimate their own BS but often they are quoted by fools who think 'well its in a book so it MUST be true! - after all MM hasn't been sued yet!'.

Remember the Mass media (at least here in the US) still says that Bush told america that Iraq was an IMMINENT THREAT even when he (Bush) went out of his way to say that it wasn't but that we should not wait for it to become an imminent threat?

Posted by CrazyFool 2003-11-3 6:26:46 PM|| 2003-11-3 6:26:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Carzyfool, that cronyism is an example of that. You award a contract to a huge company because only a huge company has that type of capability. That start the the old "in-bed with big business" canard rebounding off the walls ad nauseum until those who no better get sick of arguing the point. Propoganda in the echo chamber works eventually becasue countering the argument is eventually boring and exasperating.

Posted by Super Hose 2003-11-3 7:27:10 PM|| 2003-11-3 7:27:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Well, I agree that propaganda works for all reasons stated above. But there becomes a point where you acquire the "stink of a loser" that results in more people who don't want to be associated with you than those who do. Sure, MM picks up the young and ignorant..and gives fuel to the true believers, but....
think what's-his-face who claimed that the blue Smurf was gay. Suddenly, all but the already--forever-faithful were denying they ever knew the guy. Push the pendulum too far, and back it swings.

MM is all about comedy...but it's the Democrats who are becoming the joke.

Posted by B 2003-11-3 8:17:52 PM|| 2003-11-3 8:17:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 B. I think you are reffering to Jery Falwell pointing our that Tinky Winkie of the Tellitubbies might be a new gay icon because he carries a handbag. He was wrong about the Tellitubbies. They aren't gay they are communist. This link will fill you in. It is one of the Hose;s favor websites of all time.

Posted by Super Hose 2003-11-3 9:38:46 PM|| 2003-11-3 9:38:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Actually - I've had my doubts about Patrick, the purple starfish on Spongebob Squarepants, for quite some time

Posted by Frank G 2003-11-3 11:10:20 PM|| 2003-11-3 11:10:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 That link was hilarious!

Posted by B 2003-11-4 7:18:10 AM|| 2003-11-4 7:18:10 AM|| Front Page Top

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