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2004-10-15 Iraq-Jordan

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Posted by Anonymoose 2004-10-15 2:10:15 PM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Bing!

Posted by Shipman 2004-10-15 5:29:49 PM|| 2004-10-15 5:29:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 It seems a valid argument, if it is valid.

Refusal to do dangerous things when there is not a demonstrable need to do them is called suicide.

Rushing a machine gun nest that has the platoon pinned down and dying before you can do anything is a sacrifice.

Driving in a convoy of trucks in need of maintenance, without enough armament to deter ambush is tempting suicide.

A pointless death because someone is too lazy to get things done right is not what our troops deserve.

One the other hand if they are simply attempting to get out of dangerous duty because they are scared . . . that is what firing squads are for (that will NEVER happen . . . we have no Pattons, or Eisenhowers).

Posted by Jame Retief 2004-10-15 7:27:26 PM|| 2004-10-15 7:27:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Laumer Rules!(Tip o'hat to "Jame Retief")
Yes,I think State Dept. too often resembles his CDT.

Posted by Stephen 2004-10-15 7:53:40 PM|| 2004-10-15 7:53:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 #2 - there are Pattons and Eisenhowers in this Army - look at General Franks. This case does not need a general it needs a strong 1st SGT to put a boot in somebodys ass - either the Battalion HQ for not providing the escort or the soldier shirking duty whichever case.

Posted by JP 2004-10-15 10:35:19 PM|| 2004-10-15 10:35:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Haven't yet seen Franks as an Eisenhower, much less Patton. He is a manager, a good manager, but not the strong warrior. Managers always rule when the wars start, but it is at the end of the war that the true warriors are put in command, while the managers go back to the states and manage the infrastructure. It is how we win our wars, when we choose to win.

Posted by Jame Retief 2004-10-16 9:12:27 AM|| 2004-10-16 9:12:27 AM|| Front Page Top

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