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2004-10-19 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

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Posted by Old Fogey 2004-10-19 10:50:10 AM|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I don't believe in Canonization or Sainthood, but it is evident that this young man is very much deserving of his countrymen's admiration. Appreciation for those who stand in harm's way for you is a key marker for a civilization intent on surviving.

Posted by Ptah 2004-10-19 1:30:20 PM|| [http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2004-10-19 1:30:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 I've never been surprised by the Russian people themselves, only that the Soviets were so successful in subjugating them for as long as they did.

Then again, gulags, mass murder and being cannon fodder do tend to make one cautious. Letâs hope they can hold on to democracy for their own sake.

Posted by RN 2004-10-19 1:39:05 PM|| 2004-10-19 1:39:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 RN - Think it's not already too late? Tsar Putty seems to have plans to finish it off, re: appointing regional Gov's, no?

Posted by .com 2004-10-19 1:41:47 PM|| 2004-10-19 1:41:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 In spite of not being Catholic, much less RO, this young man is a martyr for the Gospel. He stands in Paradise now learning the mysteries of God from the great souls of past ages . . . Peter, Paul, & the prophets of old.

I would be proud to name this man among my brothers in arms.

Posted by Jame Retief 2004-10-19 1:41:58 PM|| 2004-10-19 1:41:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Russians are thoroughly secular. The communists did their work well (and were aided in this by the corruption of the Orthodox Church).
The flip side of this materialist viewpoint is that Russians have no illusions about the possiblity of appeasing the jihadists. They will support without hesitation an unrelenting effort to crush the jihadists wherever they can be found, and this bodes well for our post-Beslan relationship with Russia.

Posted by lex 2004-10-19 3:50:55 PM|| 2004-10-19 3:50:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Huh. The story takes me back to the old Anglo-Saxon chronicles of saint's deaths. Very, very, similar.
1. Fight for the faith.
2. Get captured in a hopeless cause.
3. Bleed lots, get flayed, skewered, shot.
4. Refuse to renounce the faith until death.
5. (Perform miracles?) While alive, or posthumously.

That the tradition is still alive in something near its original form in the Greek Orthodox rite makes me wonder if the peasant folk of Russia are completely secular.

Posted by Asedwich 2004-10-19 8:36:16 PM|| 2004-10-19 8:36:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 There are no more "peasants" in Russia--certainly not in Moscow or the other big cities.

Though there are many extraordinarily beautiful churches in Russia that are now being restored (in many cases with the support of rather dubious money), the fact remains that the vast majority of those who attend services are aging or aged babushki (grannies).

Posted by lex 2004-10-19 8:54:59 PM|| 2004-10-19 8:54:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Russia, of course, with its huge land area, remains a very metropolitan nation, with the vast majority of its (urban, professional, definitely NON-AGRARIAN)populace concentrated in urban cities?

:)

Posted by Asedwich 2004-10-20 12:03:12 AM|| 2004-10-20 12:03:12 AM|| Front Page Top

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