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2005-06-05 Africa: Subsaharan

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Posted by phil_b 2005-06-05 07:02|| || Front Page|| [10 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Four legs good, two legs better.

Posted by Pheregum Spairong2458 2005-06-05 08:35|| 2005-06-05 08:35|| Front Page Top

#2 Happy Valley does not remotely live up to its name.

Damn people you sure have short memories and no gratitude.

Oh! Africa?
Nevermind.

Posted by Pappa Joe 2005-06-05 09:23|| 2005-06-05 09:23|| Front Page Top

#3 Joe - we remember alright - just can't get use to the Big Ten having eleven members.

Way OT but there's a WOT reference in here. On the way to State College from the east coast, stop at Esther's Restaurant in Fredericksburg. Fried potatoes, scrapple and ham all slathered in pork fat and pie crusts made with real lard. Man, that's eatin'!

Posted by Doc8404 2005-06-05 11:07|| 2005-06-05 11:07|| Front Page Top

#4 "'When Nelson Mandela was released 15 years ago, I thought we'd be living with more dignity by now,' says Noluthando Valela, who lives with six people in a one-room shack..." [snip] "In the decade of democracy since the first all-inclusive elections in 1994, the government has built 1.6 million houses and given nine million people access to clean water... Across the country there is a backlog of people waiting for 260,000 homes to be built. The residents of the townships are not impressed by the government's record."

Actually, I'm rather impressed by it.

Posted by Tom 2005-06-05 11:21|| 2005-06-05 11:21|| Front Page Top

#5 I doubt those numbers - all anecdotes are that SA is falling apart at the seams

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-06-05 12:09|| 2005-06-05 12:09|| Front Page Top

#6 Socialism at it's finest.

Posted by Silentbrick">Silentbrick 2005-06-05 16:13|| 2005-06-05 16:13|| Front Page Top

#7 Agreed Frank..I work with a bunch of guys who still have family there.
They want out. Preferably to that bastion of Islam mistreating, slave owning, go it alone because no one else in the whole world knows right from f*cking wrong anymore, racist hellhole the USA.
No shit.

Posted by JerseyMike 2005-06-05 16:57|| 2005-06-05 16:57|| Front Page Top

#8 "The riots seek to exploit the class and nationality fault lines we inherited from our past,"

Class Warfare, Marxism at it's best - AKA - it's not our fault.

In other news, SA shown to be 12 places below Botswana in terms of corruption. This from Transparency International as reported by the Sunday Times today (no link I'm afraid). Corruption is widespread - last year the SA football (soccer) league could not find enough untainted referees to run the league - this from the country that is supposed to be running the 2010 World Cup...

Posted by Tony (UK) 2005-06-05 17:07|| 2005-06-05 17:07|| Front Page Top

#9 This article goes into the issue in more depth. While the western media tends to portray South Africa as just having white and black people, Cape province has a majority of so called coloureds who are descended predominantly from the pre-African (Non-Negro) population of the area. It seems there is considerable resentment of African (Negro) immigrants and the perceieved preferential treatment they get.

Posted by phil_b 2005-06-05 17:45|| 2005-06-05 17:45|| Front Page Top

#10 the coloureds provide the A-Q opening....Islam is no stranger in SA

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-06-05 17:50|| 2005-06-05 17:50|| Front Page Top

#11 Seems like when I was a kid S.Africa was a powerful nation that had its shit together, since the end of "white rule" the hole place has gone down the toilet. While I don't advocate institutional racism
(not publicaly at least), it seems that whitey was doing a much better job of keeping people alive. In fact can you think of one single African colony that is better off without it's mother country? They had jobs and roads and progress with colonalization, it wasn't up to euro-standards of liberalism though, I guess. Some of these countries just became "Free" in the 70's and 80's and already they have the whole place so f@#ked up they don't know which way is up.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2005-06-05 23:56|| 2005-06-05 23:56|| Front Page Top

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