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2006-10-13 Home Front: Culture Wars
Texas School Tells Classes to Fight Back
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Posted by Sherry 2006-10-13 16:17|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 This is actually common sense in action, though it certainly won't win that school any point with the PC crowd.
Posted by anonymous5089 2006-10-13 16:44||   2006-10-13 16:44|| Front Page Top

#2 Fuck the PC crowd, a5089.

The wanna-be school shooters can go shoot at PC assholes when they realize schools aren't free-fire (for them) zones anymore.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2006-10-13 16:49|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]  2006-10-13 16:49|| Front Page Top

#3 I don't recall the details, but I remember reading accounts of past schools shooters being stop in action by armed students or armed teachers (fetching the guns from their cars), I think this was either from Massad Ayoob or John Lott. When escaping to safety is not possible, fighting back is the only viable option, complying is suicidal (of course, that's easy to say for the abject coward I am, comfortably seated in front of his computer).
Posted by anonymous5089 2006-10-13 18:05||   2006-10-13 18:05|| Front Page Top

#4 Hé hé, speaking of the devil... I've checked the bookmarks I've just given, and John Lott has an entry about school shooting prevented by armed citizen response.
Posted by anonymous5089 2006-10-13 18:13||   2006-10-13 18:13|| Front Page Top

#5 Of course now-a-days its illegal to have a firearm within a certain distance (200 yds?) of a school in some places.

I'm sure a school shooter will try not to violate that law on his way to the shooting gallery school.....
Posted by CrazyFool 2006-10-13 18:44||   2006-10-13 18:44|| Front Page Top

#6 #3 a5089 - That happened at a college in far Southwestern Virginia. The (foreign student) nutcase went in and started shooting. Another (adult) student heard the shots, retrieved his legal handgun from his nearby car, went in and shot the gunman, stopping him but unfortunately not killing him. There may have been two guys who did this; it was a while ago and I don't remember.

Of course the TV networks and wire stories ignored that part of the "drama" but the local/state papers had no trouble reporting it.

And some of the other (presumably younger, but who knows?) students who weren't in any danger got all pissy because the guy who stopped the shooting and saved people's lives had the gall to have a gun in his car on the campus! How dare he!

I say give the nutcase back his gun and point him in the direction of those pussy-assed idiots. While the hero who stopped him is somewhere far from campus. >:-(
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2006-10-13 18:48|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]  2006-10-13 18:48|| Front Page Top

#7 Standard procedure if your unit is caught in an ambush is to directly assault into the ambush.

One - you’re already in the kill zone, so standing still will only get you killed.

Two - turning and running only gives your ambusher an exposed and non-threatening target to continue his killing.
Posted by Procopius2K 2006-10-13 19:15||   2006-10-13 19:15|| Front Page Top

#8 Excuse my French, but Fuckin-A!

Hilda Quiroz of the National School Safety Center, a nonprofit advocacy group in California, said she knows of no other school system in the country that is offering fight-back training, and found the strategy at Burleson troubling.

"If kids are saved, then this is the most wonderful thing in the world. If kids are killed, people are going to wonder who's to blame," she said. "How much common sense will a student have in a time of panic?"

Ms Quiroz, the strategy of sitting on the floor singing kumbaya and trying to reach out to the inner child of the psycho thats killing kids is really old hat now.

It. Does. Not. Work.

What might work is throwing books and sharp objects at him to disorientate him so other kids can mob him and kick him in the shins and balls, whilst others jab their fingers in his mouth and pull some teeth out, still more rip his ears off and even more make his nose a bloody mess, whilst two other kids get the weapon and two more gouge his friggin' eyes out. Then when they get him on the floor, the two biggest kids do a 'bronco kick' on him. If he's still alive then God help him, because they'll have the gun and he'll be blinded and bleeding from a dozen injuries, including a rather nasty sucking chest wound...

Apportioning 'blame' won't even be on the radar Hilda...

Sorry, but I've just seen some dumb shit lawyer TV drama thing on the box which was all 'lets just get along' and ignore the poor bastard who's dead kind of thing - Grrrr

ps, good for Burleson, Texas - obviously a town that cares about their kids!!
Posted by Tony (UK) 2006-10-13 20:20||   2006-10-13 20:20|| Front Page Top

#9 Somebody learned the right lesson from Flight 93.
Posted by Eric Jablow 2006-10-13 22:12||   2006-10-13 22:12|| Front Page Top

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