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2007-03-04 Arabia

Ahmedinejad: Iran, Saudi Arabia to fight against conspiracies

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Posted by Zenster 2007-03-04 17:37|| || Front Page|| [9 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Islams true battle for survival is with itself. Their true enemy resides in those whose ceaseless jihadist atrocities are steering the ummah towards oblivions precipice. Regardless of how Muslims perceive the West as dar-al-Harb, the only winnable war that confronts them is the one to recapture and then reform their faith.
It seems to me that the Islamic faith is beyond reformation. They are getting more and more violent and want nuclear weapons so that they can hasten the retyrn of the 12th Imam. The 12th Imam is supposed to come at a time when Muslims are close to being anihilated. They know the West will never initiate an anihilation program so they will make us do it in retaliation for their more violent efforts to establish a World Wide Caliphate. To reform Islam would require educating the greater mass of Muslims to a degree the Imams will not let happen. An Educated populace is much harder to control and that's what it is really all about. Control. Look no further than the burnings of schools in Afghanistan and Southern Thailand for the recipe.

Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues 2007-03-04 18:46|| 2007-03-04 18:46|| Front Page Top

#2 Zenster, nice polemic there. Makes me wish I had said it.

We must become wolves!

If it is to be war or submission, let it be war for I, at least, will not submit.

Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg 2007-03-04 18:51|| www.fire-on-the-suns.com]">[www.fire-on-the-suns.com] 2007-03-04 18:51|| Front Page Top

#3 Deacon, you are correct, I believe.

The only way that the mullahs and Islam can flourish in a scientifically literate and educated society is through violence and by keeping those within it scientifically illiterate and uneducated.

Violent religions flourish by keeping the worshippers uneducated except via the pulpit (yes, Christianity has been guilty of this in the past). The long arm of the "preacher" and his moral authority must be maintained as absolute.

Actual educational schools and education are maintained as only secondarily or tertiarily important to religious schools and education and the individual's moral and religious "education" (which is actually indoctrination) in cult-like societies.

One's moral and religious "education" are paramount above all other things - in some cases including your own family and friends.

This is seen strongly in the madrassa system and the movement against western religiosity or freedom of expression in western societies.

Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg 2007-03-04 19:00|| www.fire-on-the-suns.com]">[www.fire-on-the-suns.com] 2007-03-04 19:00|| Front Page Top

#4 true all - the major support base of the MMs is the uneducated and hyper-religious

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-03-04 19:35|| 2007-03-04 19:35|| Front Page Top

#5 I can see that Zenster has been practicing!

Posted by Chiper Threreger8956 2007-03-04 19:50|| 2007-03-04 19:50|| Front Page Top

#6 "I think it's safe to remain confident that one little meeting isn't going to smooth over something in excess of a millennia's worth of sectarian slaughter."

Yea, well, it's 1375 years ago since those pricks took over the actual line of succession to Muhammed.

Err, uh, but yea. Whose counting, right?

Posted by garbagecowboy 2007-03-04 19:57|| http://litterblog.blogspot.com]">[http://litterblog.blogspot.com] 2007-03-04 19:57|| Front Page Top

#7 I understand the meeting went badly and Nutjob left in the middle of the night.

Posted by Brett 2007-03-04 21:21|| 2007-03-04 21:21|| Front Page Top

#8 heard same .... sounds good

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-03-04 21:43|| 2007-03-04 21:43|| Front Page Top

#9 See also IRAN NEWS/IRAN WS > IRAN'S SPECIAL OPERATIONS IN IRAQ - Nutshell, Iran is in Iraq for its own National-Regional Security + Geopoltical ambitions/interests. Plus, YNET > IRAN'S OBESSION TO DESTROY - Iran is NOT just threatening to destroy Israel + others but ISRAEL > IS DE FACTO PROMISING TO DO SO ONCE THEY ACQUIRE SUFFICIENT TECH = NUKE WEAPONS CAPABILITY(S). Israel > WAR NOW,; or world can engage in PC UNO Sanctions which in all likelihood WILL NOT STOP OR HINDER IRAN FROM NUKES, i.e. FIGHT IRAN LATER WHEN ITS MIL = NUKE ABILITIES ARE MUCH STRONGER. IOW, SAUDIS AREN'T SAFE - Iran Officios also refuse to confirm or deny Iranian support for a pan-Arab Accord recognizing Israel in exchange for Israel's withdrawal back to pre-1967 Six Day War borderlines.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-03-04 22:32|| 2007-03-04 22:32|| Front Page Top

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