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2007-04-16 -Lurid Crime Tales-
Gunman Kills 21 at Virginia Teach
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Posted by Bobby 2007-04-16 12:52|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Whiskey
Tango
Foxtrot,

Over.
Posted by Anon4021 2007-04-16 12:56||   2007-04-16 12:56|| Front Page Top

#2 Guns America... this
Posted by Mad Eye Spith1132 2007-04-16 12:58||   2007-04-16 12:58|| Front Page Top

#3 2 killers
first one killed 1 wounded 21
2nd killed 21
(if I understand the reporter right and the story keeps changing)
Posted by 3dc 2007-04-16 13:16||   2007-04-16 13:16|| Front Page Top

#4 3dc, glad to see I'm not the only one confused by the reports..
Posted by IG-88 2007-04-16 13:40||   2007-04-16 13:40|| Front Page Top

#5 "Teach"??

REWRITE!
Posted by mojo">mojo  2007-04-16 13:44||   2007-04-16 13:44|| Front Page Top

#6 At 1:45 pm (EST) Drudge is reporting 32 dead. More expected.

Sudden Jihad Syndrome? Unknown. BUT, if so, expect a response.
Posted by Mark Z">Mark Z  2007-04-16 13:49||   2007-04-16 13:49|| Front Page Top

#7 Jihad Syndrome

If so then gun control seems a good option

Not in UK - only boomers
Posted by Mad Eye Spith1132 2007-04-16 14:19||   2007-04-16 14:19|| Front Page Top

#8 Jihad Syndrome
If so then gun control seems a good option
Not in UK - only boomers

Actually, although university students can be every known sort of idiot, plus the novel varieties they make up on the spot, in this kind of situation a couple of armed students going after the gunmen would end the problem toot sweet... or at least the campus police.
Posted by trailing wife 2007-04-16 14:35||   2007-04-16 14:35|| Front Page Top

#9 Note that Virginia Tech is a "gun free zone" and the university prohibits guns on campus.

Posted by DoDo 2007-04-16 14:55||   2007-04-16 14:55|| Front Page Top

#10 stop talking gun control. my point on that is that if someone wants too get a gun they will find a way too. remember the old saying guns don't killl ppl , ppl do
Posted by sinse 2007-04-16 15:16||   2007-04-16 15:16|| Front Page Top

#11 Gish i wonder if the shooter violated any gun control laws? If not we need some.
Posted by Cyber Sarge 2007-04-16 15:17||   2007-04-16 15:17|| Front Page Top

#12 Gunman reported by a FBI man on the scene to be a loan ASIAN gunman.

Now we need a def of ASIAN.
Posted by 3dc 2007-04-16 15:26||   2007-04-16 15:26|| Front Page Top

#13 The lone gunmen shot up a dorm, but wounded a lot of people--lot's for the police to do and talk to there--then sauntered across campus, allegedly chained a door shut (?!) and then started the killing in earnest, secure in the notion that the police were busy at the first scene?
Posted by eLarson 2007-04-16 15:50|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com]  2007-04-16 15:50|| Front Page Top

#14 (sorry should have been "lone gunman" -- not to be confused with the 3 jamokes from The X-Files)
Posted by eLarson 2007-04-16 15:51|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com]  2007-04-16 15:51|| Front Page Top

#15 We need to rethink security in some areas.
Posted by wxjames 2007-04-16 15:58||   2007-04-16 15:58|| Front Page Top

#16 The best way to prevent mass shootings would be to allow students concealed weapons permits. The old joke about Columbine was that if it had happened in East LA - the shooter would have been gunned down before he could have finished saying, "on the floor".
Posted by Angaiger Tojo1904 2007-04-16 16:41||   2007-04-16 16:41|| Front Page Top

#17 Listening to the press conference - they don't have any idea how many shooters or what happened.

Posted by 3dc 2007-04-16 16:50||   2007-04-16 16:50|| Front Page Top

#18 e-Larson, this thing about chaining the doors closed is bothering me. It's the kind of thing that gives me the impression of premeditation. What you say may have indeed been the shooter's plan: wound a bunch of people on one side of campus, hole up somewhere with your stash of guns, ammo, vest, and chains, then go to the real target. This guy thought this out.
Posted by Jonathan">Jonathan  2007-04-16 16:50||   2007-04-16 16:50|| Front Page Top

#19 That's what it sounds like. The odds of there being two completely unrelated lone gunmen operating on opposite sides of campus have got to be astronomical against.

I suspect either a couple of guys working together, or the one guy who really planned this thing out.

I wonder how long until there are composites drawn up from talking to the two sets of victims.
Posted by eLarson 2007-04-16 17:36|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com]  2007-04-16 17:36|| Front Page Top

#20 Two years ago, VT banned LEGAL guns from campus:

http://www.roanoke.com/news/nrv/wb/xp-21770

Now they should be LOUDLY reminded that because students and faculty COULDN'T be armed with LEGAL weapons, they DIED.
Posted by Anonymoose 2007-04-16 18:22||   2007-04-16 18:22|| Front Page Top

#21 I give the Blacksburg cops some credit; they suck at protecting students, but they're doing a fine job of protecting the identity of the killer.
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2007-04-16 18:34||   2007-04-16 18:34|| Front Page Top

#22 Okay, AP is saying that the same guy killed the one person in the dorm and committed the massacre in Norris Hall (as of 6:45 pm EDT). Still no name, still no explicit reason for the connection.
Posted by Jonathan">Jonathan  2007-04-16 18:45||   2007-04-16 18:45|| Front Page Top

#23 Skynews says he was an "Asian"; another Japanese student unhappy with the results of WWII, no doubt.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-04-16 18:46||   2007-04-16 18:46|| Front Page Top

#24 Now they should be LOUDLY reminded that because students and faculty COULDN'T be armed with LEGAL weapons, they DIED.
Posted by Anonymoose


NO - This does NOT happen in the UK in the same way as the US

WHY - Country wide gun control
Posted by Mad Eye Spith1132 2007-04-16 20:01||   2007-04-16 20:01|| Front Page Top

#25 Except maybe in Scottish nursery schools, like Dunblane.
Posted by Sgt. Mom 2007-04-16 20:25|| www.ncobrief.com]">[www.ncobrief.com]  2007-04-16 20:25|| Front Page Top

#26 What are you talking about 'Mad eye spith'? You saying this wouldn't happen in the UK because we've been disarmed?

The only people in this country who have guns other than the army and cops are criminals. And they have no problem about shooting up parties and suchlike, do they now?
Posted by Tony (UK) 2007-04-16 20:39||   2007-04-16 20:39|| Front Page Top

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