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2007-04-19 -Lurid Crime Tales-
Number of students with mental health issues growing on campuses
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Posted by Dave D. 2007-04-19 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Take your average kid.

Tell him that his culture, nation, religion, parents, and (in the case of those descended from Europeans) his heredity are at best banal and boring but more likely evil and to be smashed.

Send him to a school for twelve years that reinforces this notion at every turn instead of making him proud to be a part of the greatest concept in politics and society that man has yet devised.

At the same time, said school tells him that he deserves the same self-esteem as a straight-A student or the captain of the basketball team or a kid who has a hard but rewarding job after school even if he has bad grades and sits around all day watching TV or video games.

Tell him that there is no such thing as objective truth, or right or wrong.

Make him live in an environment where he is constantly bombarded with messages that if something occurs in life that makes you work hard and have stress, that's just unfair and unhealthy. As a corollary, imbue him with the notion that it is the responsibility of some agency (union, government) outside of himself to make sure that he always has an income stream that he'll never have to spend an iota of mind energy worrying about.

Provide him with entertainment that is masquerading as art which does nothing to goad him to think or have a long attention span or have decent cultural values. Also, make sure that the same entertainment implies that if his girlfriend has looks less than a supermodel or if (gulp!) he has to spend some of his life lonlely without a girlfriend, his existence is useless.

Then, if he's more energetic than normal, give him pyschotropic drugs to make his union teacher's job less stressful, and to alleviate his parents' fear that the neighbors might find out that their little one isn't perfect.


Any wonder that we've got all these messed up kids out there?
Posted by no mo uro 2007-04-19 06:29||   2007-04-19 06:29|| Front Page Top

#2 Wow. You been workin' on this manefesto for a long time, no mo uro?

I am impressed, and plan to e-mail your words to my group. Along with Dave D.'s summary of the article, of course.
Posted by Bobby 2007-04-19 07:04||   2007-04-19 07:04|| Front Page Top

#3 I don't know how much work went into it, but a lot of observation did.
Posted by no mo uro 2007-04-19 07:41||   2007-04-19 07:41|| Front Page Top

#4 no mo uro, you GET IT. I became pretty messed up emotionally in college, and it took me years to unravel why. I arrived at precisely your answer.

Universities are indoctrination centers -- they want students to be screwed up, to be victims, to be dependent, to hate "the system." The 60s radicals who run them figured out that there is no angry revolutionary proletariat, so they've basically manufactured one.

I'm not saying moonbat professors created Cho, but it comes as no surprise that every now and then you'll get a brittle one who goes off the deep end.
Posted by exJAG 2007-04-19 08:55||   2007-04-19 08:55|| Front Page Top

#5 "Then, if he's more energetic than normal, give him pyschotropic drugs..."

Hell, the bastards load the kids up with Ritalin even if they're normally energetic. Especially if they're male.
Posted by Dave D.">Dave D.  2007-04-19 09:08||   2007-04-19 09:08|| Front Page Top

#6 I'm not sure any of the indices mentioned in the article have actually increased over the years, but the diagnosis of them as "Mental Health Issues" has. So add to no mo uro's list that the "helping professions" in need of victims to treat, convince the student that he is in fact a victim in need of help.

Note also that unlike agriculture and manufacturing there is rarely any increase in the productivity of the "helping professions"; teaching, government, health care, law. Yet as fewer workers are needed in agriculture and manufacturing because of their gains in productivity more and more young people end up in jobs in the "helping professions". So these helpers need more and more victims to help and if they don't really exist, they need to be created. This will be a growing problem for our culture as the forces forvictimization become dominant.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-04-19 09:13||   2007-04-19 09:13|| Front Page Top

#7 * Nearly half of the students felt so depressed it was difficult to function at least once during the prior academic year; 16 percent felt that way on at least five occasions.

- Keep working the feelings will fad away.

* About 9 percent had seriously considered attempting suicide; about 1 percent had attempted it.

- Keep working the feelings will fad away.

* Nearly two-thirds had felt things were hopeless at least once.

- Keep working the feelings will fad away.

* More than 93 percent had felt overwhelmed by all they had to do at least once.

- Keep working the feelings will fad away.
Posted by BrerRabbit 2007-04-19 09:13||   2007-04-19 09:13|| Front Page Top

#8 Hmmm.... mostly liberal environment. Self loathing. Hatred of anything that is progress. Taking away your hard earned material goods to give to lazy people. False guilt over false claims of environment disaster.

Gee, I wonder why people have mental health issues.
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2007-04-19 09:25||   2007-04-19 09:25|| Front Page Top

#9 Clinical depression can be a serious problem. However, being depressed once in a year (for a few days) does not constitute clinical depression. Feeling overwhelmed at least once in a year (like at finals time) is normal.
Posted by Rambler">Rambler  2007-04-19 09:35||   2007-04-19 09:35|| Front Page Top

#10 What no mo uro said plus lack of ice cream.
Posted by Thoth 2007-04-19 10:13||   2007-04-19 10:13|| Front Page Top

#11 To add:

College is the first time students have to face the fact that they're on their own. It's like the brilliant idea somebody once had of releasing 'domestic' turkeys into the wild.
Posted by Pappy 2007-04-19 10:13||   2007-04-19 10:13|| Front Page Top

#12 Yeah, I had all those feelings, including running away to Sweden or Austrialia, because, you see, my generation had the Vietnam War as a backstop: flunk out and you're on the next plane to Apocalypse Now, and I wudnt smart enuf to be like Jon Carry.
Posted by Bobby 2007-04-19 10:25||   2007-04-19 10:25|| Front Page Top

#13 * Nearly half of the students felt so depressed it was difficult to function at least once during the prior academic year; 16 percent felt that way on at least five occasions.
Difficult to function? Once a year? That sounds normal. Five occasions? As post adolescents drinking and smoking all night? What do you expect?

* About 9 percent had seriously considered attempting suicide; about 1 percent had attempted it.
Obviously they all failed. I would question the seriousness of the attempts.

*Nearly two-thirds had felt things were hopeless at least once.

Try raising kids.


* More than 93 percent had felt overwhelmed by all they had to do at least once.
Felt overwhelmed? Who doesn't?


Serously, these things need to be taken with a grain of salt.



Posted by DoDo 2007-04-19 12:23||   2007-04-19 12:23|| Front Page Top

#14 Feelings, nothing more than feelings, wo wo wo Feeeeeelllllings.........
Posted by AlanC">AlanC  2007-04-19 13:14||   2007-04-19 13:14|| Front Page Top

#15 Drug use is a big factor, too, I bet. Hydroponic Cannabis, crystal meth, crack cocaine are all contemporaneous with increased mental health disorders.
Posted by Grunter 2007-04-19 16:31||   2007-04-19 16:31|| Front Page Top

#16 Tell him that there is no such thing as objective truth, or right or wrong.

While your other points are well-made, nmu, this one's the real soul-killer. It demagnetizes your moral and ethical compass. It makes anything palatable, be it cults, criminal behavior or depravity. This line of pap has been fed to generations of American children. We are only now beginning to see the results. While Cho did undergo some undeserved ridicule and bullying that helped stoke his resentment, it is the above philosophical blank-out that helped him overcome any compunctions about killing so many people.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-04-19 16:35||   2007-04-19 16:35|| Front Page Top

#17 No objective truth or right or wrong...Zen, this is Stalin's long term plan come to fruition. I'm often accused of being a nut when I talk about the ongoing/growing impact of communism on our society, but this was the centerpiece of Stalin's strategy to destroy our country and our way of life.

Teach your kids. Ingrain your traditions into them. Teach them right and wrong. Teach them and let them experience competition and loss. Only if they are well grounded will they be able to call bullshit on the drivel they will be fed at college.
Posted by remoteman 2007-04-19 16:55||   2007-04-19 16:55|| Front Page Top

#18 "this one's the real soul-killer"

Actually, Zenster, I reserve that term specifically for the emotion/sin of envy.

But it seems that Cho had that in spades as well.
Posted by no mo uro 2007-04-19 17:32||   2007-04-19 17:32|| Front Page Top

#19 My grandma once noted that during times of war mental illness seems to diminish. She was a teacher and a very astute and social woman so I am inclined to believe her observations.

Those were the days when there was some hardship imposed on people when they went to war. Nowadays you wouldn't even know it except for what goes on in the news.

And back then people were more connected to reality and consequences and didn't think that milk "comes from the store". They had real things to do and it kept their minds occupied. I think that if your mind doesn't have something "important" to focus on then you lose it. Kids nowadays don't stand a chance. They teach them all this weird stuff at the expense of the stuff they need to know. More and more people take society country for granted. "It will always be there" seems to be the attitude. And like many have said here too much emphasis has been put on esteem and safety and insulation from the real world. How will they ever understand the idea that there are a bunch of people who want to turn the world into a hellhole? How are they going to recognize a threat that is anything other than a gun in their face? How are they going to figure out that dealing with a country that doesn't have these handicaps is not like dealing with an individual who wants to play nice?

I don't want to live in a society that only has 1% who can figure it out. They'll be paralyzed by the 99% who don't get it, and the political games that half of the 1% play simply to attain power for no purpose other than just to have it.

And I do believe that incidence of mental problems is on the rise. Look at autism. Look at the severe cases. Any moron could see there is a problem. The severe cases years ago were far less common as a percentage of the population than now. What about other severe mental illness? I'll bet they are all going up in parallel, but I could be wrong.

So the idea that work is very important to a human is very correct. I know I would do wierd things if all I had to do was play all the time. Maybe the socialists are onto something here, but the seem to have drawn a bunch of effed up conclusions from the idea that work is very central to a person.
Posted by gorb 2007-04-19 17:34||   2007-04-19 17:34|| Front Page Top

#20 "the political games that half of the 1% play simply to attain power for no purpose other than just to have it"

This is precisely the price we pay for trying to get kids to a place of ultimate comfort and elimination of stress from their lives (like the ads where the suburban mommies put wrap their children in bubble wrap) - political ennui in the face of real existential danger.

I have a hunting/fishing buddy who is a millionaire many times over, but made sure his kids worked at hard blue collar jobs as soon as it was legal for them to do so. And he raised them in such a way that if they screwed up, they had to suffer the consequences (i.e., no insulating "bubble wrap").

They went to college - one does white collar work, the other went back to a blue collar-type business, which he now owns. If you met either of these kids, you'd never, EVER pick them out as a rich man's sons. They are down to earth, hard working, and decent folks who do NOT have the "beautiful person" demeanor. And neither of them, of course, are moonbats.

The ennui that forms that 1/2 of 1% can be cultivated, but so, too, can its antidote.
Posted by no mo uro 2007-04-19 18:00||   2007-04-19 18:00|| Front Page Top

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