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2007-11-10 India-Pakistan

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Posted by john frum 2007-11-10 09:41|| || Front Page|| [13 views ] Top

#1 peril is the unofficial national motto of Islamabad

They should be reminded how this motto could just as easily become their epitaph.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-11-10 10:10|| 2007-11-10 10:10|| Front Page Top

#2 why is india a success and Pakistan a failure?

Islam being the majority religion comes to mind!!!

Posted by Paul 2007-11-10 10:48|| 2007-11-10 10:48|| Front Page Top

#3 I still say there is more to this than meets the eye. Somebody like Perv does not get to where he is, and certainly doesn't last, with Democrat like naivete. He is more than anything else, a cold calculating machine.

As such, his priorities are #1, to save his own ass. However, and close behind is #2, to unify and control his country, which is essential to ensuring #1.

Now, if we, that is, the administration understands this, and agrees that both of these would be good, we have been hand in glove with him for a long time to try to bring both of these things about.

So yes, we not only knew that he was going to declare martial law, but we were also in favor of it, if not openly. And we were also talking with Bhutto about it, and she felt the same.

And it keeps getting deeper from there.

Posted by Anonymoose 2007-11-10 10:51|| 2007-11-10 10:51|| Front Page Top

#4 Somebody like Perv does not get to where he is, and certainly doesn't last, with Democrat like naivete. He is more than anything else, a cold calculating machine.

Anyone who counts upon being able to ride the terrorist tiger is a fool.

As such, his priorities are #1, to save his own ass. However, and close behind is #2, to unify and control his country, which is essential to ensuring #1.

All of this is negated by how Islam is utterly inimical to stability.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-11-10 11:07|| 2007-11-10 11:07|| Front Page Top

#5 and certainly doesn't last

Nope.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-11-10 12:00|| 2007-11-10 12:00|| Front Page Top

#6 Zenster: For Perv, riding the terrorist tiger is not an option. He has no choice. Not too long ago, half his military, his ISI, and half the parliament were dominated by Islamists.

With our help, he has slowly and steadily purged all three of the worst of the lot, enough so that he is strong enough to directly challenge the enclaves totally ruled by the Taliban and al-Qaeda.

And at any moment, he might have to backpedal furiously to keep from being deposed. So it is to our profound interest to support him as far as we can, to keep his 166M or so people, *and* their nuclear weapons, from crossing over to the dark side.

In such a circumstance, we should have long been strategizing every conceivable possibility like we do for every potential war. Plans within schemes, within plots, and contingencies out the ass.

Nothing should happen in the whole country without our prior knowledge and approval.

Posted by Anonymoose 2007-11-10 12:41|| 2007-11-10 12:41|| Front Page Top

#7 With our help, he has slowly and steadily purged all three of the worst of the lot, enough so that he is strong enough to directly challenge the enclaves totally ruled by the Taliban and al-Qaeda.

I'd sure like to think so but, from all accounts, Musharraf still seems to run with the fox and hunt with the hounds.

So it is to our profound interest to support him as far as we can, to keep his 166M or so people, *and* their nuclear weapons, from crossing over to the dark side.

No argument. As I have noted before, America is literally handcuffed to the guy.

Nothing should happen in the whole country without our prior knowledge and approval.

A nice sentiment but far from the actual reality.

PS: 'moose, the more I think of your "Koran Toilet Paper Factory" flytrap, the more I like it. We need to set up a few different "lures" specifically designed to enrage and draw terrorist attention.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-11-10 15:57|| 2007-11-10 15:57|| Front Page Top

#8 Mushy proclaimed martial law in face of islamofascist violence, yet 100% of his targets are lawyers and professionals attached to the Pakistan Peoples Party, which doesn't appeal to the Jamaat-i-Islami holy warriors.

Hoagland is brain dead for suggesting that Mushy produced sound policies on Kashmir. When he took power, Mushy held a peace summit with the Indian leader. Two months later, he infiltrated troops at high altitudes in Kashmir. They were routed by the Indian army. At 9-11, Pakistan faced economic collapse under the US embargo. After Pakistan was brought into the GWOT, a series of suicide bombings shook Kashmir. Over 400,000 Hindus have been coerced into exile from Kashmir, notwithstanding a Hindu presence that exists for thousands of years in that part of the world.

Posted by McZoid 2007-11-10 19:32|| 2007-11-10 19:32|| Front Page Top

#9 Somebody like Perv does not get to where he is, and certainly doesn't last, with Democrat like naivete. He is more than anything else, a cold calculating machine.

Until there are too many factors to calculate. Then the machine starts smoking, or a spring goes spoing. But first it starts giving false answers... or at least that's how it works in the cartoons.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-11-10 21:51|| 2007-11-10 21:51|| Front Page Top

#10 Until there are too many factors to calculate.

And the tiger starts to buck under the saddle.

Then the machine starts smoking, or a spring goes spoing.

We're definitely at the pocketa pocketa queep ... pocketa pocketa queep stage.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-11-10 21:56|| 2007-11-10 21:56|| Front Page Top

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