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2008-01-24 Fifth Column

Winter Soldiers 2 Planned - But This Time There Is The Internet

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Posted by Anonymoose 2008-01-24 13:34|| || Front Page|| [6 views ] Top

#1 Good catch, Moose.

Posted by Phomoting Grundy7816 2008-01-24 14:08|| 2008-01-24 14:08|| Front Page Top

#2 For an outfit that claims it is all about revealing the truth, they are not off to a very good start:

"so-called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth falsely maligned Kerrys service record as payback."
Falsely maligned? Not false, as far as I can tell.

"the public has become agonizingly familiar with its excesses, most notably the torture of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib and the deliberate killing of civilians at Haditha."
Abu Graib actions were torture? Tell that to the Iraqis Saddam had there. Oh, you can't; they're dead.
And have the Haditha investigations yet revealed any intentional killing of known civilians?

Classic liberal propaganda piece.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2008-01-24 15:03|| 2008-01-24 15:03|| Front Page Top

#3 Imagine youre out on a convoy and you get hit by an IED, Millard said. And the SOP [Standard Operating Procedure] is you fire in that direction of that fire that came in..."
Pardon my ignorance, but isn't an IED a lot like a land mine in that there isn't incoming fire like with small arms (I understand that setting off an IED could be the first move in a set up ambush but that was not what was said or even implied)? So, would this character saying he would start shooting at the hole or dead animal the IED was placed in?

Posted by swksvolFF 2008-01-24 15:54|| 2008-01-24 15:54|| Front Page Top

#4 Oh, my - there'll be about a hundred milbloggers doing internet searches, every minute of every televised statement. I am pretty certain that every veteran that steps in front of the camera will be fisked down to the subatomic level, and their DD-forms and service histories will be assembled before they even step down from the mike.

This will be fun. It took years for the first 'winter soldier" fakes to be debunked, it's only going to take minutes for these idiots.

So tell us - how keen are you, to step in front of a moving buzz-saw?

Are they in fact, going to be able to find any genuice veteran whose service record will stand up to scrutiny, and who will mouth the gruesome story they want to tell the world?

Nah, I don't think so - Barbara, break out the industrial-quantity popcorn-popper! This is going to be fun, if they ever manage to actually launch Winter Soldier 2.

Posted by Sgt. Mom">Sgt. Mom 2008-01-24 17:08|| http://www.celiahayes.com]">[http://www.celiahayes.com] 2008-01-24 17:08|| Front Page Top

#5 Actually, the military standard is that you always cover a minefield with machine gun fire. But extrapolating that to an IED is a stretch.

As SOP for IED attack, I suspect they include things like watch out for a second IED nearby; listen for any gunfire covering the position; set up counter snipers immediately; and if you need a tow or emergency vehicle, set out a defensive perimeter.

Along with, if you can still roll, when is it best to just bug out. Watch out for the IED initiating a close ambush. Look for locals acting as lookouts, and rent-a-mobs trying to converge on your position.

Posted by Anonymoose 2008-01-24 17:09|| 2008-01-24 17:09|| Front Page Top

#6 I still can't spell. Perview is my fiend.

Posted by Sgt. Mom">Sgt. Mom 2008-01-24 17:11|| http://www.celiahayes.com]">[http://www.celiahayes.com] 2008-01-24 17:11|| Front Page Top

#7 I'll get some quick PM done on the poppers, Mom.

I had them overhauled over the Christmas break, but it never hurts to be ready to go on double overtime. :-D

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2008-01-24 18:20|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/] 2008-01-24 18:20|| Front Page Top

#8 because of the Internet (thank you Al Gore) you can bet these stories will be long on heresay and short of facts or specifics.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2008-01-24 21:19|| 2008-01-24 21:19|| Front Page Top

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