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2008-04-13 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

Link between Global Warming and Hurricanes DOUBTED!

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Posted by BA 2008-04-13 14:51|| || Front Page|| [10 views ] Top

#1 "Scientists wrangling with the hurricane-global warming question have faced two primary difficulties. The first is that the hurricane record before 1970 is not entirely reliable, making it nearly impossible to assess with precision whether hurricane activity has increased during the last century

I call Bullshit and lazy researchers. Asshats

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-04-13 16:37|| 2008-04-13 16:37|| Front Page Top

#2 [re666 has been pooplisted.]

Posted by re666 2008-04-13 16:42|| 2008-04-13 16:42|| Front Page Top

#3 Frank: Do you mean lazy in terms of not filling in the hurricane record prior to 1970, or lazy in terms of not stripping back the post-1970 record to reflect the available dataset, which is the path I'd think would be most useful. You know, drop all the middle-of-the-ocean bumblers which never would have gotten recorded in the days before intensive satellite coverage.

Posted by Mitch H.">Mitch H. 2008-04-13 16:53|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]">[http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/] 2008-04-13 16:53|| Front Page Top

#4 Interesting word association exercise. yup...

Posted by tipover 2008-04-13 16:55|| 2008-04-13 16:55|| Front Page Top

#5 pre-1970 - hurricanes are usually detectable by ships at sea and beachfront property. They rarely sneak by. Naval records and news accounts would give information, they either:
a) Don't want to do the detailed research, or
b) (more likely) have done it and it doesn't fit their theory

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-04-13 17:15|| 2008-04-13 17:15|| Front Page Top

#6 MSNBC/FOX HANNITY AMERICA'S > on the determinative role of CHANGES-FLUXES IN SOLAR ACTIVITIES + RADIATION OUTPUT as per Warming. Broadly, it still comes down to WHILE THERE IS INCREASING WORLDWIDE SCIENS CONSENSUS THAT THE SUN IS THE SINGULAR GREATEST FACTOR BEHIND WARMING, THERE IS ALSO A PARALLEL LACK OF SCIEN CONSENSUS ON WHAT THESE SOLAR CHANGES-FLUXES MEANS AS PER THE SUN + SOLAR INTEGRITY.

*GUAM + WESTPAC/Pacific > iff old dreams-visions of mine hold up, and which ususally do, Guam etc. will in future experience not only ICING BUT ALSO GIGANTIC FURIOUS TORNADO-LIKE STORM FUNNELS + WATERSPOUT SYSTEMS [e.g. "X-Men" Movie]. WIll start out small but clearly forming, then get bigger stronger blacker frequent + statistly massive in size and power.

D *** NG IT, STORM [XMen Mutant Weather Witch Babe], HOW CAN A YOUNG BOY IN FUTURE GUAM PICK HIS FAVORI-I-I-TE BANANAS + MANGOES, PET LIZARDS, etc. WITH TORNADOES OUTSIDE HIS WINDOW + FAULT LINES ACROSS GUAM + WESTPAC!

HOW CAN WE WIN THE WAR!

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-04-13 18:28|| 2008-04-13 18:28|| Front Page Top

#7 "KILLER Dan" > SRF Guam + US Army Reserve Guam > HOW CAN WE WIN THE WAR [fav saying]!

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-04-13 18:31|| 2008-04-13 18:31|| Front Page Top

#8 Joe M...

1) Have you got rid of those nasty exotic snakes yet in Guam? If you have I might want to visit someday.
2) Mangos - I love mangos....

Posted by 3dc 2008-04-13 18:43|| 2008-04-13 18:43|| Front Page Top

#9 Ah, the brown tree snake. Getting supplies from Singapore is much safer. Faster,too.

Posted by Hector 2008-04-13 19:25|| 2008-04-13 19:25|| Front Page Top

#10 Frank: not so much. About a third of all tropical storms in the Atlantic and more in the eastern Pacific never see land. They just go straight north & die before they hit the Arctic, or go wandering aimlessly somewhere south of Bermuda. They have to cross the shipping lanes at the right time for them to be noted by sailors - or cross the shipping lanes at all, which some of the odder ones might not.

Posted by Mitch H.">Mitch H. 2008-04-13 20:09|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]">[http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/] 2008-04-13 20:09|| Front Page Top

#11 that would be a minority, right? Couldn't the "researchers" extrapolate that % based on post-70's data? Not that fricking hard to do if you really want facts and not agenda. I am totally sceptical of any and all global climate change research, as you can prolly tell. I see shoddy research techniques, inaccurate and shaded "models", agenda-driven interpretations and grant-whoring. Where am I wrong? Oh yeah, 'm not "consensusy"

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-04-13 20:58|| 2008-04-13 20:58|| Front Page Top

#12 The new work suggests that, even in a dramatically warming world, hurricane frequency and intensity may not substantially rise during the next two centuries."

This article is just media and global warming huckster spin to counter the fact there was an article just published last week showing that Dr. Grey (Gray?) in Colorado - one of the most renowed experts in the fields of hurricanes - stating something to the effect that as we are entering a cooling phase and that hurricanes will decrease. I don't have a link, I just remember reading it last week.

Apparently this creates a problem for the global warming hacks because they had hyped that the increase in the hurricanes was a result of global warming. But now that it is clear that we might not see that trend continue they need to change their facts to fit.

Posted by Woodrow Slusorong7967 2008-04-13 21:06|| 2008-04-13 21:06|| Front Page Top

#13 Scientists readily acknowledge that the list of unknown influences on hurricane activity is likely to be long.

So most of the time we don't know what the fuck we're talking about. But it gets our names in the paper and keeps that grant money rolling in.

Posted by tu3031 2008-04-13 21:34|| 2008-04-13 21:34|| Front Page Top

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