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2008-05-25 China-Japan-Koreas

Dongfang Turbine, China's largest turbine producer, was virtually wiped out by quake.

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Posted by 3dc 2008-05-25 16:08|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 Had American turbine production been outsourced to Dongfang yet?

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2008-05-25 16:18|| 2008-05-25 16:18|| Front Page Top

#2 This is war on terrorism news?

Posted by gromky 2008-05-25 16:23|| 2008-05-25 16:23|| Front Page Top

#3 This is war on terrorism news?

Could be.

Posted by Halliburton Earthquake Division 2008-05-25 16:24|| 2008-05-25 16:24|| Front Page Top

#4 Many Chinese buildings are constructed without re-bar support. That is why they crumble during earthquakes.

Posted by McZoid 2008-05-25 17:29|| 2008-05-25 17:29|| Front Page Top

#5 Many Chinese buildings are constructed without re-bar support. That is why they crumble during earthquakes.

I think a lot of them are constructed with what they call rebar, but we would call wires. I have also heard they put a lot more sand in their concrete mixtures.

Posted by Zhang Fei">Zhang Fei 2008-05-25 19:39|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2008-05-25 19:39|| Front Page Top

#6 flyash experts, I tellz ya. Guarantee they don't use what we know as rebar in anywhere near the right materials/size/use. Their concrete and mortar mixes would probably get your license removed here....

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-05-25 19:49|| 2008-05-25 19:49|| Front Page Top

#7 So the conclusion is basically that they're using brittle, fabricated artificial stones, which crumble under severe, yet wholly predictable, earthquake stresses?

And for comparison we'll use the next Cal. seismic event, if not the last few, and analyze the relatively stricter Cal. building codes?

Sounds plausible.

Posted by Goober Jineting3229 2008-05-25 20:30|| 2008-05-25 20:30|| Front Page Top

#8 Look at the pictures of the quake zones: government buildings, still standing. Schools, total rubble, collapsed with kids inside. Good thing the Communist Party controls the media, and most of the people of China will support the Party no matter what.

Posted by gromky 2008-05-25 20:46|| 2008-05-25 20:46|| Front Page Top

#9 gromky, I have to dissagree. I believe we are seeing a "Chineese Awakening", based on what my friends who are there are telling me.

Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues 2008-05-25 21:11|| 2008-05-25 21:11|| Front Page Top

#10 the 2006 IBC/2007 CBC are criteria to maintain safety for occupants by keeping structures intact enough for safe egress. They are NOT prescriptions for damage-proof structures, a common misperception. That said, the unreliable materials, methods, and QC in 3rd world countries like rural China don't provide much of a lesson to us engineers.

A piece of crap is a piece of crap. We already know what falls down. I also suspect the military nuke facility (a higher level of construction, yet destroyed, if reports are accurate) will be "unavailable" for forensic engineering inspection

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-05-25 21:14|| 2008-05-25 21:14|| Front Page Top

#11 I believe we are seeing a "Chineese Awakening", based on what my friends who are there are telling me.

They could strong arm American toy companies for slip shod manufacturing and give lip service to tainted medical supplies for export. However, the blatant substandard performance in the center of their own country can not be buried. The implied level of corruption and disregard of its consequences, particularly when the state demands a 'one child' policy, is the stuff of what in Chinese history lights the fuse to revolt.

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-05-25 21:46|| 2008-05-25 21:46|| Front Page Top

#12 Not that anyone will read this, but yeah the Chinese are solidly with their government. It could get really ugly at the Olympics if China doesn't win. They have a very strong persecution complex and do not understand that making defective products hurts their image. To them, it's OK if you screw others, especially foriegners.

Posted by gromky 2008-05-25 23:27|| 2008-05-25 23:27|| Front Page Top

#13 I read it. Am I no-one?

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-05-25 23:30|| 2008-05-25 23:30|| Front Page Top

#14 "I read it. Am I no-one?"

To Obama, yes.

Posted by Chinegum McGurque5166 2008-05-25 23:33|| 2008-05-25 23:33|| Front Page Top

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