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2009-09-21 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Unoluter Javique5084 2009-09-21 05:26|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 Can you say "no thanks!"?

If not then it's a tax.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2009-09-21 08:24|| 2009-09-21 08:24|| Front Page Top

#2 Jeez. George got it right for once and actually used a method ("let's look it up") that I have done in the past when talking to liberals.

Are the 'scales' falling off their eyes?

Posted by Mullah Richard 2009-09-21 09:32|| 2009-09-21 09:32|| Front Page Top

#3 However, in accordance with the Orwellian Democratic Party Dictionary past Republican resistance to increase funding beyond inflationary levels to a program is defined as a 'cut' in funding.

Posted by Procopius2k 2009-09-21 09:41|| 2009-09-21 09:41|| Front Page Top

#4 George testy? Oh yeh, he's not in the "in" group anymore. He's from Camalot 2, also known as the Clinton years. Obama IS Camolot 3. Good reason for him George to be testy. Way to go George!

Posted by Richard of Oregon 2009-09-21 10:16|| 2009-09-21 10:16|| Front Page Top

#5
I'll tell you what it isn't. It isn't constitutional.

Posted by Parabellum 2009-09-21 10:35|| http://sidemeat.wordpress.com/]">[http://sidemeat.wordpress.com/] 2009-09-21 10:35|| Front Page Top

#6 An awful lot of people do not have cars, and therefore need no auto insurance: inner-city poor, city dwellers at all income levels, the elderly, sixteen-year olds who haven't passed their road tests, college students who can't afford car and rely on bicycles, idealistic Greens ditto... Therefore this is a tax.

Posted by trailing wife 2009-09-21 10:39|| 2009-09-21 10:39|| Front Page Top

#7
"The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others. His own good, either physical or moral, is not a sufficient warrant."

John Stuart Mill

Posted by Parabellum 2009-09-21 11:51|| http://sidemeat.wordpress.com/]">[http://sidemeat.wordpress.com/] 2009-09-21 11:51|| Front Page Top

#8 Obama could have defended the individual mandate as a 'fee' because the charge is to offset the benefits the person will get when they are insured

Of course, for some healthy people it will offset more than what they get, for some sick people it will offset far less than what they get. But that is a little like, say, an auto registration fee. A car owner buy the registration for the same price no matter how many days a year they drive (of course you can choose not to own a car).

Posted by lord garth 2009-09-21 11:54|| 2009-09-21 11:54|| Front Page Top

#9 Anytime any government tells you to give money, it is a tax. Whether it is insurance, fees or demanded by the IRS. It is a tax.

Posted by DarthVader 2009-09-21 11:57|| 2009-09-21 11:57|| Front Page Top

#10 He's probably got his successor's "begging for forgiveness" speech in his top-right drawer.

Posted by gorb 2009-09-21 12:41|| 2009-09-21 12:41|| Front Page Top

#11 Of course you can go to page 29 of the Baucus bill and see it's called an excise tax

Posted by Beavis 2009-09-21 12:48|| 2009-09-21 12:48|| Front Page Top

#12 Case in point. Hawaii demands that I pay unemployment "insurance" for my employees even though I don't have any and am not myself eligible for unemployment. You say "tax", I say "extortion" - it's all in the pronounciation.

Posted by Grumble Oppressor of the Munchkins3627 2009-09-21 15:27|| 2009-09-21 15:27|| Front Page Top

#13 "Depends on what your definition of the word is, is, George. OK, most people only see taxes when they pay for something at the store. See, we're going to make it a payroll withholding called Selective Health Insurance Tallie, but acronym it like we did with FICA, because nobody really looks at the line of their paycheck except accountants and corporate bean counters. You know, we do the same thing with those traffic cameras...you know how we make it a civil fine so that people cannot challenge their accusors in a court of law? Same concept, that way...wait is this still rolling?..Well the people at Merrium Webster are a bunch of assholes, continuing definitions left over from an age of racism and slavery. You don't believe in laws and definitions from the age of slavery do you George?"

Posted by swksvolFF 2009-09-21 15:42|| 2009-09-21 15:42|| Front Page Top

#14 Prolly going for the excellent education system you've out there Munch.

Posted by Besoeker in Duitsland 2009-09-21 15:43|| 2009-09-21 15:43|| Front Page Top

#15 Are the 'scales' falling off their eyes?

No. If the mandate fell only on those making more than $250K per year, then there'd be silence.

Posted by Pappy 2009-09-21 21:35|| 2009-09-21 21:35|| Front Page Top

#16 Hey, if it comes out of Washington it is a tax.

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