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2009-11-06 Home Front: Politix
Senate blocks census US-citizenship question
A-Pee article. Rest at link.
Senate Democrats have blocked a GOP attempt to require next year's census forms to ask people whether they are a U.S. citizen.
Posted by gorb 2009-11-06 02:15|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [270 views ]  Top

#1 Cause we don't want apportionment to just count Americans, we're the transnational party of the world* - Donks

*AKA - suppressing the vote of the citizens of the United States of American.
Posted by Procopius2k 2009-11-06 07:38||   2009-11-06 07:38|| Front Page Top

#2 I think it perfectly appropriate to count all persons, whether legal or not, as I believe Congressional apportionment is based on population, not legal or voting population (recall the infamous 3/5 compromise). However, I also think it perfectly appropriate to categorize whether the counted person is a citizen, legal resident, or illegal - those are a LOT more reasonable questions than 90% of the stuff they ask, like how many bathrooms you have.
Posted by Glenmore 2009-11-06 08:47||   2009-11-06 08:47|| Front Page Top

#3 Glen, the 14th Amendment replacement to the 3/5ths compromise is still active. And it doesn't say citizens, it says persons, "excluding Indians not taxed".

I'm just surprised the Mexicans haven't tried for Indian nation status yet.
Posted by Mitch H.">Mitch H.  2009-11-06 11:13|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]">[http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]  2009-11-06 11:13|| Front Page Top

#4 Glen, there's a difference between counting for representation and counting for program/funding allocations. When the fed allows in 10 million+ illegals which congregate in urban areas, they have effectively removed the proportional representation of not only those districts within states but between states.
Posted by Procopius2k 2009-11-06 11:39||   2009-11-06 11:39|| Front Page Top

#5 Mitch & Proco - that's why Vitter's amendment made sense: you count all persons, AND you count the different categories that would matter (legality, etc.) But no, can't have THAT - works against the agenda.
Posted by Glenmore 2009-11-06 11:51||   2009-11-06 11:51|| Front Page Top

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