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2010-05-21 China-Japan-Koreas

China: Time for US to show N. Korea some goodwill

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Posted by gromky 2010-05-21 02:43|| || Front Page|| [6 views ] Top

#1 The next picture will be of Zereo bowing to Kimmeeeeee

Posted by 49 Pan 2010-05-21 09:21|| 2010-05-21 09:21|| Front Page Top

#2 The US should have pulled out troops out and provided Nuclear weapons to South Korea long ago. Let them defend themselves and let the Chinese realize what a dangerous game they are playing.

Posted by rjschwarz 2010-05-21 09:51|| 2010-05-21 09:51|| Front Page Top

#3 I've avoided commenting except in my statements that they 'would' likely find torpedo fragments.

The US doesn't need to provide SK anything, including nukes. They have the technology to go it alone, but not the motivation.

I'm all for taking it to the enemy, but I don't believe SK has pulled its weight, either.

However, no matter what Pres is in the WH, the US can't show weakness, or the next raised wreckage will be a US ship.

I expected this out of China. I also fully expect Shillary to do the Halfbright 2-step in NK, following with Bama blowing more hot air.

War? It's all rhetoric...and, yes, China is the 2nd biggest loser in all of this.

Posted by logi_cal 2010-05-21 10:25|| 2010-05-21 10:25|| Front Page Top

#4 Um, the S Kors demonstrated that they cannot defend themselves. Theye've repeated that demonstration down through the years and now that they're on the dole from the USA they're even softer and lazier than they ever were, a cream puff nation full of wimps, and we back them up

Posted by Captain Ulosing4107 2010-05-21 10:26|| 2010-05-21 10:26|| Front Page Top

#5 Yes, South Koreans would be toast. Everyone would try to flee to the Southernmost area of the Peninsula. With the bottleneck of tiny roads for 53 million, the vast majority of SKors would be blown up on roadways and beside rice paddies as they flee. A few very lucky VIPS would leave the peninsula in Helicopters with their family. People with boats would try that as an escape route. But the remaining scores upon scores of the less fortunate...vaporized, blown to bits, mowed down. And the few left standing would literally be doing Tae Kwon Do in a yin yang North South Boogie.

Posted by GirlThursday 2010-05-21 11:09|| 2010-05-21 11:09|| Front Page Top

#6 I saw the .cn at the end of the link and stopped reading.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2010-05-21 11:59|| 2010-05-21 11:59|| Front Page Top

#7 Huh, since when does China think it can tell the US what to do? Oh, yes, right...

Posted by regular joe 2010-05-21 12:39|| 2010-05-21 12:39|| Front Page Top

#8 Hey China, don't worry, Obama will eventually run out of asses to kiss and make his way to the Norks. Between you guys and Mexico he's pretty tied up right now.

Posted by Keeney 2010-05-21 12:53|| 2010-05-21 12:53|| Front Page Top

#9 While the typical Skor civilian may be jello, that is not unusual for civilians of all stripes. What matters is how the ROKA performs. They have 655k active duty and 3m reservists.

Much of the Nork artillery facing Seoul is worthless and decrepit, so they would likely initiate with a nuclear weapon. With the South covered by US PAC-3 missiles, about the only way this would work is as a EMP airburst, trying to fry all the electronics in the region, instead of turning Seoul into a smoking hole.

With, of course, whatever artillery they could fire at the city as well.

ROKA would go bananas, and throw everything they had at the North, and I doubt the USN would bother to wait for Obama to finish his hand wringing and to whine, "Why can't we all be friends?"

Quietly, the Pentagon would put out assurances to the Chinese military command that if they were to butt out, the US would be done in a couple of weeks, with little more than utterly wiping out the North's nuclear anything and every uniformed Nork officer and politician.

Nothing would ever be that clear however, so the reality would vary considerably in color and consistency. Some settling would occur during shipping and handling.

Posted by Anonymoose 2010-05-21 14:18|| 2010-05-21 14:18|| Front Page Top

#10 Time for you to curb your starving, rabid poodle, China.

Posted by mojo 2010-05-21 15:19|| 2010-05-21 15:19|| Front Page Top

#11 GT, dead wrong. You're basically saying the ROKA and ROK Marines would not fight - and fight effectively? That, baldly, is utter bullshit.

Counterbattery has all those site plotted, and they would be shut down within the first volley. Remeber, only thier fixed heavy stuff has the 30km range needed to hit Seoul effectively ,and that stuff is shcked already and dialed in.

Secondly, and more importantly, the ROKs would fight liek wild animals to defend their own. Don;t mistake the political leaderships lack of will for that of e aROK soldier - and dont confuse ROKA with those useless politcal KATUSAs.

ANd finally, jsut how the hell do you expect the Norks to sustain their force? They dont have fuel or logistics past what they carry - that's 72 hours max, less if they manage to advance more than 20km from the Z. And right now they still move most of their stuff by rail due to lack of motor transport and fuel for it.

And finally you completely overlook the impact of air interdiction as well as deep strikes on C3I targets that will leave most NKor units headless from the regiment up as well as EW that porevent the survivors from communication except by wires. And Wires dont advance well.

If they cannot force a complete breach and a nearly unopposed breakout like the Germans did in France 40 or the US did in 91. And they need to do that in the face of massive air superiority on the other side that can interdict major intersections, logistical routes, and fuel depots, as well as command and control centers and HQ units.

It would be bloody, but the NKors would collapse. This isn't June 1950 with a prostrate and unprepared SKor laid bare against a hostile and well equipped NKor force with Russian "advisers" flying their CAP and commanding major units by proxy. This would be more like the NKor Army's collapse in the face of the Counteroffensive that rolled the NKors back to the Yalu.

Posted by OldSpook 2010-05-21 21:48|| 2010-05-21 21:48|| Front Page Top

#12 Umm, nice try OS but I am not taking that bait. Reread what I wrote before you get it twisted and start misquoting me. And btw, I doubt you have had a clearance level that I have possessed in South Korea in recent history.

Posted by GirlThursday 2010-05-21 21:57|| 2010-05-21 21:57|| Front Page Top

#13 Try again sweetie. I was at the Fort as recently as 2 years ago.

Posted by OldSpook 2010-05-21 23:57|| 2010-05-21 23:57|| Front Page Top

#14 And you might consider I've probably been at this biz since before you were born. I might just have learned a thing or two and have been exposed to other programs and compartments... and that I may have a broader perspective than your paper tube view you had in a tac shop at Camp Humphreys

But don't let that stop you from spreading gloom and doom worst-case, factual or not, if that's what floats your boat.

Posted by OldSpook 2010-05-22 00:13|| 2010-05-22 00:13|| Front Page Top

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