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2010-07-08 Home Front: WoT

Redneck Mosque Arsonist Caught--Clearly a Teabagger

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Posted by charger 2010-07-08 14:49|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 Tucker says Mendy describes himself as a devout Muslim who had attended the mosque. Tucker didn't characterize a motive but says it doesn't appear to be a hate crime.

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm...how come?
Oh. Nevermind.

Posted by tu3031 2010-07-08 15:08|| 2010-07-08 15:08|| Front Page Top

#2 Huh. I guess they really did fire bomb themselves.

Posted by miscellaneous 2010-07-08 15:23|| 2010-07-08 15:23|| Front Page Top

#3 Alright, MODS.

I have a bone to pick with you:

You don't permit denigrating the Dear Leader of our failing country (even subtle humor)....

but you permit DENIGRATING LABELS to be used in posts when NOT referring to the Dear Leader.

I refer specifically to the T-------r term.

I do NOT find it amusing. It represents the single WORST example of media bias and ignorance on a scale I can only compare to a media icon publicly using the word n----r. Parroting the term T-------r justifies its origin and continued use by ignorant idiots. The poster doesn't realize what they're doing. Some may not be offended by its use, but permitting it ensures it will remain in the lexicon.

A more appropriate and more accurate 'creative' header would have been,
"Mosque Arson Solved-- Black Muslim in Custody". The irony is clear w/o the derogatory term.

You mods need to get your s--t together; you're all over the place. Between your rabid censoring of Bama commentary/posts and what I believe to be filtering of my non-Bama posts, you're losing more than just me.

If this isn't a conservative blog, please set me straight and I'll be gone forever. ed may have been more spot-on than I care admit at this time.

Signed,
A white, non-racist, strongly-conservative (& Constitutional) entreprenuer labeled a 'right-wing extremist' & danger to his country by his own government for his political views.

Posted by logi_cal 2010-07-08 15:57|| 2010-07-08 15:57|| Front Page Top

#4 I think teabagger should live on in the lexicon for a long time. It reveals many subtle truths about the leftards and their guise of 'peaceful and open debate'.

Posted by bigjim-CA 2010-07-08 16:09|| 2010-07-08 16:09|| Front Page Top

#5 Lighten up, Francis...

Posted by Raj 2010-07-08 16:10|| 2010-07-08 16:10|| Front Page Top

#6 I'm not sure what posts were deleted or edited or whatever that Logi_cal refers to, but I don't see any problem with this particular headline.

The "teabagger" is clearly tongue-in-cheek snark, which is always welcome at the 'burg.

Posted by Scooter McGruder 2010-07-08 16:35|| 2010-07-08 16:35|| Front Page Top

#7 Huh. I guess they really did fire bomb themselves.

Proving that they are not human? Hey their words not mine! Lots of flags in the story..happened just after a meeting, graffitti then burn the place down, a couple more I won't get into.

L-Cal, I get your point, I had a conversation with a buddy from CA, talked politics and econ, mentioned he has many of the same positions as a Tea Party member would should have seen the following flip out. Take a breath, find the cnn video report, then tell me that wasn't the storyline they were attempting to put together then tell me if there is any mention of this by any three letter station today or even tomorrow.

Posted by swksvolFF 2010-07-08 16:59|| 2010-07-08 16:59|| Front Page Top

#8 As a long time lurker hereabouts,

I agree and disagree with logi-cal re:censorship on the burg. Criticism of the One, or any other American officeholder, should be free and open for any American voter, as long as it doesn't denigrate the office but rather the empty suit occupying it.

Let us not ride the censorship and/or the Orwellian word corraling bandwagon by banning certain words, whatever they are, and become an echo chamber of meaningless reassurance of our own rightness and righteousness, but rather let the burg remain a place of real and open conversation.

Logi-cal is right that less censorship is needed hereabouts; we're all grown ups and should be providing the censorship functions for our own comments and we should be prepared to suffer whatever consequences may come of our decisions to make said comments.

A Laissez Faire approach to social order enforcement is perhaps the right approach on the burg, I think the community here reflects the desire for that type of content management by the mods rather than relying on the "thought police" to keep them safe from bad people who say bad things.

Thanks again Fred, et al for all you do here. The burg tis my refuge from the useless lame stream media content I otherwise must suffer through to gather my desired information. Rock On!

Posted by Onerous 2010-07-08 17:03|| 2010-07-08 17:03|| Front Page Top

#9 If this isn't a conservative blog, please set me straight and I'll be gone forever.

logi_cal , Rantburg is not a conservative blog. It is a war blog, set up to track the War on Terror. We follow politics inasmuch as it impacts the fight against the Islamofascists/jihadis/caliphatists. At rough estimate about 1/4th of our regulars are liberals, what used to be called Scoop Jackson Democrats, perhaps another 1/4th are Independents of various stripes. Granted, the conservatives are the noisiest on political issues, but they are not necessarily even a majority here. If you want political agreement, you are right to go somewhere else.

Posted by trailing wife 2010-07-08 17:07|| 2010-07-08 17:07|| Front Page Top

#10 I find the term teabagger disgusting and on par with nigger. It is a vile attempt to belittle the cerner of our political system to nothing more than some lowlife act. So now you know how I stand on the term.

Ladies and gentlemen this is Rantburg. This was a pun, and a tackey one at that but still. But just as I somtimes dont agree with some posting and I'm certain that my calling Zero a Fu(king idiot offends some-not sure who-but it does, It was meant as a joke/irony/dark humor. Get over it. I mean to ask, so what should it have said? The truth would have sounded like a hate crime in the process.

Posted by 49 Pan 2010-07-08 20:28|| 2010-07-08 20:28|| Front Page Top

#11 Zero IS an a##hole. That is a modest insult at most.

Posted by Ford Maude Elle 2010-07-08 20:31|| 2010-07-08 20:31|| Front Page Top

#12 Oh ya and before you sink the last comment, my obigitory suck up comment. Thanks MODs! We may bitch but we do love ya!

Like my mom used to tell me "Stick and stones......

Posted by 49 Pan 2010-07-08 20:31|| 2010-07-08 20:31|| Front Page Top

#13 Why sinktrap it? My comment is this: how could somebody make it to the oval office in this day and age and not be somewhat of a jerk? I mean, has anyone seen a truly NICE politician in a hot minute that actually got elected to high office?

Posted by Ford Maude Elle 2010-07-08 20:35|| 2010-07-08 20:35|| Front Page Top

#14 Update:

A Muslim man charged with setting fire to a Marietta mosque may be in the country illegally, law enforcement officials confirmed Thursday.
....
While Mendy sat in jail Thursday, his wifes cousin, Momodou Njie, was proclaiming his innocence.

[Mendy] is not a criminal. It makes no sense for a Muslim to set fire to a mosque where he goes to pray everyday, Njie told the AJC. I think the authorities are looking for a quick answer and there he was. I still think this was a hate crime.

Njie also insisted that Mendy was in the country legally.

He has been staying with me for the past two weeks and I have known him for six or seven years, he is not that kind of guy, Njie said. I would like to see the evidence against him.

Posted by tipper 2010-07-08 20:48|| 2010-07-08 20:48|| Front Page Top

#15 an illegal muslim? I sense a presidential pardon and executive order citizenship

Posted by Frank G 2010-07-08 20:51|| 2010-07-08 20:51|| Front Page Top

#16 The continued slandering of helpless primates must be stopped!

Posted by Besoeker 2010-07-08 21:20|| 2010-07-08 21:20|| Front Page Top

#17 I guess I was wrong. So be it. I'm with ed...

Posted by logi_cal 2010-07-08 21:20|| 2010-07-08 21:20|| Front Page Top

#18 Rantburg is not a conservative blog. It is a war blog, set up to track the War on Terror. We follow politics inasmuch as it impacts the fight against the Islamofascists/jihadis/caliphatists. At rough estimate about 1/4th of our regulars are liberals, what used to be called Scoop Jackson Democrats, perhaps another 1/4th are Independents of various stripes. Granted, the conservatives are the noisiest on political issues, but they are not necessarily even a majority here. If you want political agreement, you are right to go somewhere else.

K...that's the most hypocritical and naive statement I've read in a long, long time. Liberals do not believe in the WOT (aptly renamed in liberal lexicon, 'contingency operation') and, for 6 years, pounded our soldiers' efforts with so much negativity, I thought for sure it would wreck the military.

RB overwhelmingly posts & comments on a conservative track. You, my dear, expose yourself for what you are and that's fine. I would bet money that one or more of the mods are black and a bit racially sensitive at that. Too bad for the childish behavior; decades of racial tensions to break the last democrat (YES, democrat) bastions of southern racial separation to get a president that exacerbates racial divide...shameful. Civil Rights have denigrated into inequality among blacks vs. everyone else due to racism on their part.

My conservative friends pointed me here long ago as a result of their experience, but I think this experience has ran its course.

On the 't-------r is ok' comments, you're being played a fool: The term was invented by a media personality, not some idiot on a rampage at a rally. I totally disagree with letting it go; I'll leave it at that.

finito

Posted by logi_cal 2010-07-08 21:40|| 2010-07-08 21:40|| Front Page Top

#19 You would lose your bet, logi_cal.

Every so often someone cries "CENSORSHIP" here when one of the very few rules is enforced.

And each time it falls to the mods to point out a couple things:

1. This is Fred's living room, not the town square. No one intends to - nor can we - control your speech in general. We can and occasionally do, however, require that a few basic rules be followed in this particular, private place.

2. Sometimes what makes sense from the perspective of expressing your own personal beliefs and feelings is less helpful from the perspective of the site. Openly libelous speech here would put Fred and Rantburg at risk, but probably not you.

3. This site is one of the few places where the WOT is still tracked in detail. I know that I am not alone in steering thoughtful people here and in some cases Fred's patient, time-consuming work since 9/12/2001 has paid off .... eyes opened, new understanding, they go out to influence others or take action.

It's not for nothing that Instapundit links here regularly. You might be surprised just what IP addresses come here from time to time. There are some kinds of speech that are so offensive to most people that allowing them here would completely undercut the impact of this site in rallying support for the WOT and documenting what's at the core of world events right now.

So, bottom line:

- 'censorship' is a red herring. You're free to use whatever language you like - but not necessarily here, where the very few limits are indeed real limits.

- Rantburg exists for a purpose. For a couple purposes, more exactly, but for a main purpose: to track and analyze the civilizational war we are in and where possible to influence how people understand the events around us.

Fred puts in hours a day on this site. So do the mods.

And logi_cal, you're way off base if you think Trailing Wife or any of the other mods aren't quite clear about who our regular posters are, what locales host the the spam and hack attacks this site regularly attracts, or what the range of political opinions are among the regulars here.

You owe TW an apology.

Posted by lotp 2010-07-08 22:05|| 2010-07-08 22:05|| Front Page Top

#20 Ed and logi_cal, I'm with Raj: "Lighten up, Francis"

uh.... wait a minute

OK, I'm still with Raj. I'd hate to see you go, but there are rules, Fred's rules. If they are too tough, oh well....

If I can operate within those rules, anybody else should be able to

Posted by Frank G 2010-07-08 22:09|| 2010-07-08 22:09|| Front Page Top

#21 I can appreciate logi_cal's sentiments regarding the "teabagger" slur because that's exactly what it is, a slur. Like the shall-not-be-spoken "n-word" it exists and is applied in an attempt to denigrate and dehumanize the intended target. On top of that and by virtue of it's historical implications, the "n-word" is racially charged in a way the "t-word" has yet to achieve. That's my personal opinion, of course, which may well change in due time. But until then, and as someone who thinks the taboo imposed on the "n-word" is borderline political correctness run amok, I also endeavor to maintain a degree of sensitivity to those who may find it offensive and so choose to exclude it from my own lexicon. Which is to say that I'd rather not start calling for the word police whenever the term "teabagger" is used in a facetious way to highlight the utter hypocrisy and intellectual bankruptcy of those who do use it as a slur.

Just my unsolicited $0.02.

Posted by eltoroverde 2010-07-08 23:39|| 2010-07-08 23:39|| Front Page Top

#22 I'm with LC and Eltoroverde on that slur - we shouldn't dignify it with acceptance and casual re-use. Tea Party indiduals are American citizens and demand the respect that entails, no more, no less

Posted by Frank G 2010-07-08 23:50|| 2010-07-08 23:50|| Front Page Top

#23 or individuals, even. God I wish there was a "oh crap" button when you see it posting as you realize there was an error... my bad

Posted by Frank G 2010-07-08 23:52|| 2010-07-08 23:52|| Front Page Top

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