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2010-12-06 Home Front: Culture Wars

citizens spying on the state: umberto eco on wikileaks

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Posted by anon1 2010-12-06 17:25|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 its competitors who allow incompetence to breed in the dark corrupt corners awau from public scrutiny The US parades its incompetence and corruption up front & in your face while its public is distracted or asleep. I guess that's an improvement.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2010-12-06 18:55|| 2010-12-06 18:55|| Front Page Top

#2 The US is NOT incompetent or corrupt.

Far from it.

They have the brightest and best. And many of the things they do that people criticise, they do so out of necessity.

The best thing that would come from Wikileaks is if some of those real reasons become public. People might then understand why it was that they had to at least *try* to remake the Middle East for example.

If you want to see corruption try Indonesia.

China is also corrupt but on a State-wide scale so it's no longer called corrupt just an autocratic new brand of mercantalism where they lock up foreign directors of companies they don't like in trade negotiations.

Posted by anon1 2010-12-06 19:03|| 2010-12-06 19:03|| Front Page Top

#3 > The US is NOT incompetent or corrupt.

So the federal reserve isn't trying to manipulate say the silver/oil/gold price with taxpayers money for the benefit of insiders?

I suppose theirs one way I can disagree. The US state is incompetent AND corrupt

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2010-12-06 20:40|| 2010-12-06 20:40|| Front Page Top

#4 On an absolute scale the U.S. government is corrupt, Bright Pebbles. On a relative scale most other governments are more corrupt. The absolute scale thingy is the same mistake the supporters of Mr. Assange make: they crow over the release of secrets that possibly should not have been kept, while not noticing that there are other countries whose secrets are considerably worse, and considerably more in need of being even partially revealed. Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, Zimbabwe, South Africa, the Belgian Congo (or whatever we're calling it these days)... the list goes on and on. Hacking into those secrets and revealing them to the world would actually do some good, which is why Mr. Assange and others of his ilk will never even think of trying.

Posted by trailing wife 2010-12-06 23:44|| 2010-12-06 23:44|| Front Page Top

#5 Indonesia is only partway down that list, anon1. You're more aware of it because it's in your neighborhood.

Posted by trailing wife 2010-12-06 23:58|| 2010-12-06 23:58|| Front Page Top

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