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2012-02-14 Home Front: Culture Wars
Obama's Budget Proves He Should Not Be Reelected
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Posted by DarthVader 2012-02-14 11:07|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [209 views ]  Top

#1 We don't need no stinkin' budget.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2012-02-14 12:11||   2012-02-14 12:11|| Front Page Top

#2 Raising taxes will increase the recession. Cutting spending will increase the recession. Failure to do both, and substantially more than proposed, will collapse the economy completely. We've been kicking this hand grenade down the road for quite a while; got a graphic example of what comes next from an Iranian in Siam.
Posted by Glenmore 2012-02-14 12:35||   2012-02-14 12:35|| Front Page Top

#3 Cutting government spending will also collapse the economy. A spike in interest rates will collapse the economy. There is pretty much nothing the government can do that will grow the economy at even a middling rate. Saying this to the electorate will guarantee a loss at the next election.
The electorate with its profound economic and arithmetical ignorance is its own worst enemy.
So meanwhile, it's business as usual and kicking the can down the road. At least a politician can get half the votes in a election by robbing Peter to pay Paul.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2012-02-14 14:25||   2012-02-14 14:25|| Front Page Top

#4 Analysis of the budget effect over the next 5 years: Cuts in uniformed personnel proposed eliminating eight Army brigades, five Marine infantry battalions and four of the Corps's tactical air squadrons. The Air Force would lose 303 aircraft and six fighter squadrons, while the Navy jettisons seven cruisers and 2 dock landing ships.
Posted by Tamir Pardo 2012-02-14 14:31||   2012-02-14 14:31|| Front Page Top

#5 "Cutting spending will increase the recession."

Fallacy.

Government does not "produce" anything but more government. Government jobs and workers are a net negative on the true economy.
For every dollar tied up in the government is a dollar that is not working in the economy.

Posted by newc 2012-02-14 16:22||   2012-02-14 16:22|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Jairt Turkeyneck6702 2012-02-14 16:33||   2012-02-14 16:33|| Front Page Top

#7 Fallacy.

Government does not "produce" anything but more government. Government jobs and workers are a net negative on the true economy.

You're just not thinking. The true economy is what it is, and is not constrained by your ideology-driven distortion. A government produces a few things, like military security than private industry can't (thank God). Production and expenditure are not the same. Economic growth by increased production has only the barest superficial resemblance to economic growth produced by borrowing from abroad. By those standards the US has had little or no 'true' economic growth for many years.
A decent cut in government spending will immediately take money out of circulation. It will immediately render a few thousand government employees unemployed, their expenditures will immediately drop, and this will show up in the national economy very quickly.
The way out is through this conundrum, and people will suffer until the economy is re-engineered. That may not happen. But something will happen, always has.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2012-02-14 16:43||   2012-02-14 16:43|| Front Page Top

#8 His budget covers TWO years, ambitious little shit, isn't he.
Covering the time he's NOT in office.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2012-02-14 19:15||   2012-02-14 19:15|| Front Page Top

#9 "their expenditures will immediately drop, and this will show up in the national economy very quickly."
Then it should behoove the Government to allow the economy to recover outside of "stimulus". It matters. The Military and road building is not what the government is spending money on, it's crap like bad mortgages and bailouts and unions and fake companies.

It's still temporary economy and one that does not pay for itself.
Posted by newc 2012-02-14 20:40||   2012-02-14 20:40|| Front Page Top

#10 "There is pretty much nothing the government can do that will grow the economy at even a middling rate."

I don't know about that. Removing bans on offshore oil exploration and pipeline building would drop the price of oil which would help the economy a lot.
Posted by rjschwarz 2012-02-14 20:45||   2012-02-14 20:45|| Front Page Top

#11 and Harry Reid is deathly afraid of his Democrat minions having to take a position on this piece of shit budget. Hence, Mitch McConnell will force it to a vote so they have to go on record before the election
Posted by Frank G 2012-02-14 21:01||   2012-02-14 21:01|| Front Page Top

#12 >Government does not "produce" anything but more government. Government jobs and workers are a net negative on the true economy.

Wrong. Government produces Land Rights, Patent defence and copyright-defence and police. The economy would also work a lot better if it charged for them based on their value, rather than on harming comparative advantage taxes (sales, income, employment).
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2012-02-14 21:41||   2012-02-14 21:41|| Front Page Top

#13 If readers of Rantburg cannot agree that government use of resources is costly, the country is doomed. We in economics call it the "budget constraint.". But heck, most economists don't seem to believe in budget constraints anymore, so I guess we are all in good company.
Posted by Perfesser 2012-02-14 21:56||   2012-02-14 21:56|| Front Page Top

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