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2012-02-24 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

Law Enforcement Weighs In On 'Right To Resist' Bill

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Posted by Anonymoose 2012-02-24 10:45|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 This seems to be the first push-back against the new post 9-11 police powers. The combination of warrant-less searches, no knock invasions, SWAT terrorizing of households, and absolutely no apologies for even grievous mistakes, trauma and destruction has, in the mind of many people, become intolerable.

There were very good reasons for the 4th Amendment and all the other restraints on law enforcement behavior, created even *before* there were police, as such. And nothing, even the War on Terror and other wars, has changed these fundamental rights.

Police did quite well back when they needed a warrant issued by a judge to search or invade the property or communications of a citizen. And they were not unconscionably constricted by needing probable cause.

And if there was no armed violence, not just the theoretical potential for armed violence, taking place, there was no need for SWAT. If this meant they only worked for a few hours each year, then the question arises were they needed in the first place?

Posted by Anonymoose 2012-02-24 10:59|| 2012-02-24 10:59|| Front Page Top

#2 Obviously, they don't understand that this is supposed to make the police CHECK TWICE before busting in to someone's house and terrorizing their family. "Whoops, wrong address" ain't gonna cut it. Gosh, maybe we shouldn't have so many drug warrants in the first place. Change the thinking, people.

Posted by gromky 2012-02-24 11:13|| 2012-02-24 11:13|| Front Page Top

#3 Who then have little, if any, recurse under the law, and who face police and prosecutors who shrug the whole incident off as just part of doing business.

You left JURIES out of this equation. Police & prosecutors will do everything they can to leave juries out of this equation. Juries can and will sometimes nullify legal procedures that violate a sense of decency.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2012-02-24 15:58|| 2012-02-24 15:58|| Front Page Top

#4 Perhaps video shot on a camera where the tape can't be conveniently deleted later would help.
Good luck on that one. Deletion of such records by police & legal officials seems to be a routine nowadays.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2012-02-24 15:59|| 2012-02-24 15:59|| Front Page Top

#5 the responsible police officers are terminated from employment
Contracts with police unions render that difficult or impossible. Disputes about employment are usually turned over to arbitrators, who frequently overturn such terminations. The most reliable way to 'fire' a police officer is to convict him of a felony, not an easy task.
All the more reason to ban police unions outright.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2012-02-24 16:02|| 2012-02-24 16:02|| Front Page Top

#6 It may be dangerous, but some times, knocking on the door during the day armor down often gets the effect you need.

These raids are becoming frequently adverse to good effect, and sometimes wrong all together.

LEO need to calculate the use of force more closely with of the threat perceived.

Cory Maye situations may be avoided with proper Judicial oversight at the issuance of a warrant.

Posted by newc 2012-02-24 17:27|| 2012-02-24 17:27|| Front Page Top

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