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Posted by Grunter 2012-02-29 09:44||
#2 Versus the dreaded "slightly overcast" weapons.
Posted by Steven 2012-02-29 10:19||
#3 will these rainy day weapons put out the sea of fire?
Posted by chris 2012-02-29 10:26||
#4 Suggesting that maybe making nukes is not such a "sin" as their spokesmen suggest becayse the only rainy day weapon that we would give a darn about would be a nuke.
Too bad they wouldn't be around long enough to enjoy it. Unless Obumble is in charge, then he will apologize to them for making them upset enough to use it.
Posted by gorb 2012-02-29 11:18||
#5 gorb, I suggest you're overly sanquine. Rainy day weapons could consist of easy to deliver bio and chemical weapons.
Float a boat load into any or all harbors of ours and/or allies and see what hits the fan. They could even mount a plausible deniability campaign.
Posted by AlanC 2012-02-29 12:39||
#6 I was at the Senate office Building in October of 2001, participating in a meeting with members of Senator Feinstein's Office on issues of terrorism and state government capabilities and plans. The anthrax event in the building sent us to the emergency room of George Washington University for treatment and the start of a series of prophylactic treatments for possible exposure. The initial group of people actually in the building and proximate to the exposure site filled the auditorium with several hundred and we got an initial briefing from medical staff there. In the course of the afternoon and evening I watched the massive numbers of people who self identified as possible exposure cases flodded local hospitals with thousands.
A real anthrax or bio/chem even in major cities, even in limited actual size, mere ounces of confirmed agent in multiple locations, would create a panic across the nation of enormous proportions and expense. The cost, difficulty, effect, denial analysis of such an attack would make any terrorist planning group giddy.
Do you really think there haven't been backchannel communications about these sort of things between allies and even protagonists?
Posted by NoMoreBS 2012-02-29 13:18||
Posted by NoMoreBS 2012-02-29 13:20||
#8 NMB, sure there have been discussions. But, to what effect?
It wouldn't take much in the way of hard-line jihadis to do this and if they were suicide types with no identifiable tie to a particular country what then? Nuke the entire ME? add in Indonesia and Malaysia and the Magreb for good measure?
Posted by AlanC 2012-02-29 14:04||
#9 It wouldn't take much in the way of hard-line jihadis to do this and if they were suicide types with no identifiable tie to a particular country what then?
There are ways to trace the material.
Posted by Pappy 2012-02-29 15:48||
maybe yes, maybe no. The question is plausible deniability. If it starts getting down to chemical formula then the lefties and "progressives" can stop things pretty easily. Look at what happened in Iraq and the "failed" intelligence about WMD. Could you really be sure that the kind of tracing you're speaking of could come to a real conclusion with the sort of resistence you would see (not to mention if Zero is still around)?
Posted by AlanC 2012-02-29 16:58||
#11 maybe yes, maybe no. The question is plausible deniability
I'm talking 'technical'.
You're talking 'political'.
Posted by Pappy 2012-02-29 18:26||
#12 Yokay, I'll bite - "rainy day"???
SON, AHZ IS PERPLEXED, TRULY + UNDENIABLY.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2012-02-29 20:58||
#13 Nuke the entire ME? add in Indonesia and Malaysia and the Magreb for good measure?
Works for me.
Posted by Secret Asian Man 2012-02-29 22:19||
#14 NoMoreBS, thanks for your service to me and our nation. I am sorry you had to deal with that situation, and more sorry that our government hasn't been willing to put the stick on the real perps of that crime.
I too had unusual, uncomfortable, experiences in September and October of that year, but here we are ten years hence; so, they were not so bad.
Similarly, do not overestimate the Iranian threats. God has been generous to the United States in providing such weak adversaries. One nuclear weapon detonated over Qom would release the Iranian people from their bondage. The Iranian leadership living there will never do anything to make that happen, which deploying chem/bio weapons in the US would certainly, definitely, absolutely, and quickly cause to happen.
For people outside of the United States a largely Christian nation, you must understand that we really energetically love you in a New Testament way, and we want to help you succeed. Love and hate are not so far apart though, and to reject our love makes us unhappy. To attack us and make us afraid -- that would be bad for you, in an Old Testament way.
Posted by rammer 2012-02-29 23:18||
#15 you must understand that we really energetically love you in a New Testament way, and we want to help you succeed. Love and hate are not so far apart though, and to reject our love makes us unhappy. To attack us and make us afraid -- that would be bad for you, in an Old Testament way.
Oh my, rammer. That was certainly effective communication.
Posted by trailing wife 2012-03-01 00:00||