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2012-03-07 Europe

French PM knocks halal, kosher laws as campaign heats up

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Posted by trailing wife 2012-03-07 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 We're going to see agitation for this in the United States. After all, San Francisco already tried to ban the B'rit Milah, and the Federal Government has claimed the power to force religious institutions and religious people to act against their religions' doctrines.

First the Catholics, then the Jews.

Posted by Eric Jablow 2012-03-07 06:35|| 2012-03-07 06:35|| Front Page Top

#2 The situation is far worse than it sounds because the US has long recognized a whole bunch of Jewish religious-legal practices, which it was able to do because they were not offensive or oppressive as far as the rest of society is concerned.

This includes things such as recognizing Jewish law courts just for Jews; special what could be called "Sabbath zones" marked by publicly placed boundaries, in which Jews could perform *some* mild labor during their Sabbath (by religious exemption), and many other courtesies.

And yet today, even within Judaism there is a huge brawl by animal-rights and vegan Jews against religious animal slaughter.

Yet all of this is contrasted with Muslim and other religious practices, such as Santeria and Voodoo, which other Americans find deeply offensive.

They argue in court that religions have to be treated the same, even if the practices of one religion are deeply offensive to the public. "Either we can be offensive, or the Jews can't have any special exemptions."

Posted by Anonymoose 2012-03-07 08:26|| 2012-03-07 08:26|| Front Page Top

#3 Anonymoose,

I remember legal disputes over Eruvim, those Sabbath zones you mentioned. Thanks for reminding me.

For the uninitiated, the Talmudic rules about how far one may travel and how much one can carry on the Sabbath had always been different for towns versus walled cities. An Eruv is an ancient legal fiction where the authorities can encircle a populated area with a cord, and do a ritual wherever the cord has to be broken to turn that street into a 'gate', to turn that area into the religious equivalent of a walled city.

Shall we rework Martin Niemöller's quotation?

Posted by Eric Jablow 2012-03-07 08:35|| 2012-03-07 08:35|| Front Page Top

#4 Hebrew National hot dogs (Costco) are the only ones I buy anymore. Superior

Posted by Frank G 2012-03-07 17:04|| 2012-03-07 17:04|| Front Page Top

#5 We're going to see agitation for this in the United States

Laws against kosher slaughter have passed in quite a few Western European countries, Eric. Now they are going for laws banning the import of kosher meat slaughtered elsewhere.

Posted by trailing wife 2012-03-07 19:24|| 2012-03-07 19:24|| Front Page Top

#6 Sarko is reviving an old Anglo-Saxon strategy. It used be called "divide and conqueor".

Posted by Scooter McGruder 2012-03-07 20:11|| 2012-03-07 20:11|| Front Page Top

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