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2012-03-09 Home Front: Culture Wars

Christie calls veteran "idiot" during shouting match

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Posted by Besoeker 2012-03-09 07:44|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 Just because someone served in our military does not mean they are not an idiot. I have met several veterans that were idiots. I do not see how veteran status makes it a crime to point out misbehavior.

Posted by Gruse Snore6844 2012-03-09 08:07|| 2012-03-09 08:07|| Front Page Top

#2 Mr. Brown, a veteran of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars who wore a T-shirt proclaiming his veteran's status, repeatedly interrupted the governor, according to a reporter for the Philadelphia Inquirer.

In reading the article it looks like the guy was being an asshole. And yes I think even veterans can be jerks and assholes.
Take John 'I was in Vietnam you know.' Kerry for example.

Posted by CrazyFool 2012-03-09 08:16|| 2012-03-09 08:16|| Front Page Top

#3 ..or John Murtha.

Posted by Procopius2k 2012-03-09 08:45|| 2012-03-09 08:45|| Front Page Top

#4 Gruse Snore6844 and CrazyFool

Your comments are certainly true. Christie however, should be professional enough to take the high-road and rise above taunts rather than jumping down in the ditch and slugging it out with name calling. He clearly is not, and it has become a pattern with him.

Posted by Besoeker 2012-03-09 09:08|| 2012-03-09 09:08|| Front Page Top

#5 Oh, I thinks it past time when dealing with some people to be 'gentlemanly' about it. This high road stuff doesn't work when you're bombarded by such behavior. One side has the play the game for a long time. The object is to shut down the other person's right to free assembly and free speech. You surrender that fundamental when you let them get away with it. Communicate in a manner they understand sometimes is appropriate. If they retreat to reevaluate their tactics, so much the better. If they escalate, its proof that they have no interests in real discourse and are only seeking submission.

Posted by Procopius2k 2012-03-09 09:46|| 2012-03-09 09:46|| Front Page Top

#6 Christie however, should be professional enough to take the high-road

It's New Jersey, Besoeker, not Georgia. There is no high road there, and they would not respect someone who didn't give better than he got. Separately, Procopius2k is right on the general principle.

Posted by trailing wife 2012-03-09 10:02|| 2012-03-09 10:02|| Front Page Top

#7 You're probably right TW. I just remember the lady he lambasted when she asked him why he sent his children to a private school.

Posted by Besoeker 2012-03-09 10:08|| 2012-03-09 10:08|| Front Page Top

#8 Christie however, should be professional enough to take the high-road and rise above taunts

The stilleto vice the cudgel?

Posted by Pappy 2012-03-09 10:32|| 2012-03-09 10:32|| Front Page Top

#9 Christie's popularity in NJ denotes from the fact that he comes across just like a rather smart, friendly, blue collar guy you could find in any blue collar bar in NJ at the end of the workday.

Men in NJ recognize this and like it, and he reminds women of their brothers, husbands and fathers, in a good way.

Part of this is plain speaking, and not playing a gentleman when somebody is spouting abusive b.s., but saying what everybody else like that is thinking.

He was even able to whup the teacher's union, because he presented them like a bunch of snooty teachers with turned up noses who think they are better than everyone else and want free money for little work.

Posted by Anonymoose 2012-03-09 10:33|| 2012-03-09 10:33|| Front Page Top

#10 Yes, and Christie is popular because he acts like New Jersey. I don't like New Jersey in my bar or around my friends. And I do not like Christie talking like he is staff on Jersey Shore.

Blue Collar doe not mean being raunchy or acting like a loud buffoon.

All he did take take on state budget. He is FUBAR on everything else.

If you are Jersey, please do not move south and act like you are some kind of tough shit here in the south. If you are from jersey, you may GET BENT.

Posted by newc 2012-03-09 10:46|| 2012-03-09 10:46|| Front Page Top

#11 He is where he is for a reason, multiple ways.

Posted by Whiskey Mike 2012-03-09 12:05|| 2012-03-09 12:05|| Front Page Top

#12 From a New Jersey newspaper, the rest of the story:

Brown, a Democrat who ran an unsuccessfully for Assembly last year, says hes a Navy Seal who served in Iraq. As he testified before the Rutgers Board of Governors last month, he argued the Christie-sanctioned plan to rebrand the South Jersey campus under the Rowan name would rob students of opportunities afforded by Rutgers reputation. The Republican governor began to explain that current students would still graduate with degrees from Rutgers.

But Brown shouted from audience: "What about my son? What about my neighbors? What about my friends?"

According to the story, he got worse from there. Is that how retired combat veteran Navy SEALs normally behave?

Posted by trailing wife 2012-03-09 12:18|| 2012-03-09 12:18|| Front Page Top

#13 Besoeker, I have to respectfully disagree with the sentiment of continually "taking the high road" with these people. TTHR's all well and good when arguing with someone else on the right side of the political aisle...a libertarian vs. an evangelical so-con, for example. But the leftists always use knives and brass knuckles, while their media stooges always rake us over the coals for even the slightest deviation from Marquess of Queensberry rules. That was the whole point that Breitbart (PBUH) was always trying to make - we are at war with these bastards, and Mr. Nice Guy's not gonna be the last one left standing.

TW, nice detective work. It's been my experience that the loudmouth who always wants to share his harrowing experiences as a SEAL, Green Beret or USMC Force Recon invariably turns out to have spent his service time doing something like working in the motor pool at Minot AFB.

Posted by Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) 2012-03-09 13:07|| 2012-03-09 13:07|| Front Page Top

#14 When you get down on the same level as a loser, they succeeded.

Posted by Flereque Chusoger5090 2012-03-09 13:16|| 2012-03-09 13:16|| Front Page Top

#15 Hmm... having not been in the military myself - I have a lot of respect for them - particularly the Rangers, Seals, and other special forces.

Having that respect when I hear of one acting like this I have to wonder... were they really what they claim they were? Or is it another 'Winter Soldier / Stolen Valor'? I'll believe him until shown otherwise but there is that shadow of a doubt lingering...

Posted by CrazyFool 2012-03-09 13:16|| 2012-03-09 13:16|| Front Page Top

#16 When you get down on the same level as a loser, they succeeded.

We returned the favor of Guernica, Warsaw, Rotterdam and Coventry with Hamburg, Berlin, Dresden. They failed.

Posted by Procopius2k 2012-03-09 14:10|| 2012-03-09 14:10|| Front Page Top

#17 Someone Ace trusts says he's a SEAL. FWIW.

And apparently the video is very edited?

Posted by Free Radical 2012-03-09 19:51|| 2012-03-09 19:51|| Front Page Top

#18 We returned the favor of Guernica, Warsaw, Rotterdam and Coventry with Hamburg, Berlin, Dresden. They failed.
Posted by: Procopius2k 2012-03-09

So you are insinuating our troops were on the same level as the NAZI's. Fighting back with righteous indignation is far, far different than pure evil in uniform, bro.

Posted by George Ebbeamp4828 2012-03-09 23:19|| 2012-03-09 23:19|| Front Page Top

#19 I'm just guessing that before this little conflagration with Christie, Prior Petty Officer Brown had been listening to Springsteen's latest anti-USA debacle.

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