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2012-03-09 Afghanistan
Growing gulf in Afghanistan
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Posted by Fred 2012-03-09 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ]  Top
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#1 The only man that may ensure OUR Soldiers get shot in the back is the Commander and Chief.
Posted by newc 2012-03-09 01:05||   2012-03-09 01:05|| Front Page Top

#2 There are 2 Afghan armies. One is units composed mostly of Uzbeks and Tadjiks that are reliable and reasonably good. The other is composed mostly of Pashtuns, unreliable and mostly acts as a training ground for the Taliban.

There is currently a program to make the army reflect the ethnic composition of Afghanistan, which in practice means to Pashtunize it.

All sides know the civil war will restart when the West leaves and they are preparing appropriately.
Posted by Phil_B 2012-03-09 01:29||   2012-03-09 01:29|| Front Page Top

#3 All sides know the civil war will restart when the West leaves and they are preparing appropriately.
Posted by Phil_B


Spot on Phil and the tribal genocide to come will be like none we've seen recently.
Posted by Besoeker 2012-03-09 04:22||   2012-03-09 04:22|| Front Page Top

#4 the tribal genocide to come will be like none we've seen recently

Eventually, Chinese "humanitarian" occupation?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2012-03-09 05:21||   2012-03-09 05:21|| Front Page Top

#5 At least Baraq's good war will end properly, not like Bushitler's bad war in Iraq.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2012-03-09 08:11||   2012-03-09 08:11|| Front Page Top

#6 Somehow a Chinese occupation doesn't seem so bad. China will also suffer in the Graveyard of Empires. This will cost them dearly but will for the most part make the American Occupation look like a cake walk. They need a Gengis Khan style occupation which is more than capable off they only issues is the recently found natural resources mhich btw the US seems disinterested in pursuing. China will keep the lid on things which is what we need / lesser of two evils.
Posted by Rightwing 2012-03-09 08:16||   2012-03-09 08:16|| Front Page Top

#7 
there is growing scepticism about the US achieving even a minimum objective that would allow it an honourable exit from the Afghan quagmire.


Snake Plissken? Hotel Hell-hole? Contain the Gitmo detainees and all other Sharia-promoters within: "you can check in anytime you like, but you can NEVER leave"?
Posted by Lumpy Elmoluck5091 2012-03-09 10:03||   2012-03-09 10:03|| Front Page Top

#8 Got that helipad set up on top of the embassy yet?
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2012-03-09 12:06||   2012-03-09 12:06|| Front Page Top

#9 " The rising number of coalition troops' deaths had prompted US officials to order a tougher screening procedure for members of the Afghan army. Yet given the degree of distrust, there is little hope of the gulf being bridged. American officials concede that despite years of training that has cost billions of dollars, the reliability of Afghan soldiers remains suspect."

Learning the news today about transferring the Taliban prisoners over to Afghan control about 3,000 of them, is this really the smart thing to do? I hope this isn't politically motivated. They also want to stop the night raids that are really successful. Allowing these Taliban prisoners the potential freedom under the afghans watch putting our soldiers in grave danger is leudacrist. I'm just a mom, I always turn to Rantburg for the skinny, would love to hear your thoughts
Posted by Jan 2012-03-09 12:19||   2012-03-09 12:19|| Front Page Top

#10 transferring the Taliban prisoners over to Afghan control about 3,000 of them

Note how little we hear from our leadership about the Taliban recidivism rate resulting from the so called Afghan Reintegration program or from former GITMO detainees. "Catch and Release" is NOT just a handy soldier phrase, it is reality.



Posted by Besoeker 2012-03-09 12:34||   2012-03-09 12:34|| Front Page Top

#11 "..the situation is fast spiraling out of control.." simply because Americans cannot find any reason to only fund regimes that BELIEVE in Freedom! If we did nothing more than only send Aid, Visas, training, and food only to those countries that enshrined our First Amendment we'd have the Egyptians eating sand right now and we'd be out of Afganistan leaving them to their soccer field murders. Unless we're willing to enforce our foundational beliefs and documents we shouldn't be paying to sit beside people that, in their heart of hearts, believe in genital mutilation and theocracy.
Posted by SenatorMark4 2012-03-09 15:39|| senatormark4.org  2012-03-09 15:39|| Front Page Top

#12 As a parting gift, how about a satellite dish and cheap tv for every man, women and child, along with an efficient backup hand generator. Then start broadcasting unencoded programming of from the West. A message from heaven. Betcha it'll scare the turbans off the Talibunnies, puttng a twist in their beards. I'm sure they'll try to force the population to fork them over, but human ingenuity often prevails. Consider it the modern version of salting the earth.
Posted by Procopius2k 2012-03-09 16:42||   2012-03-09 16:42|| Front Page Top

#13 Not just the USoA ....

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > [The Sun = Poll]BRITS WANT OUT OF "UN-WINNABLE" [Afghan] WAR.

ARTIC = ...
> 60% of Brits believe UK Afghan forces are NOT succeeding in their mission or efforts to bring stability + peace to Afghanistan.
> As per the above, 40% believe they NEVER WILL.
> 57% believe UK Combat Troops should be brought home ASAP before the 2014 deadline.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2012-03-09 21:30||   2012-03-09 21:30|| Front Page Top

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