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Posted by Bright Pebbles 2012-03-19 14:15||
2012-03-19 14:15||
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#2 It would be interesting to compare this number with the number of rounds of M-16 ammo burned in the Iraq endeavor from 2003 to 2010.
Posted by Bill Clinton 2012-03-19 14:19||
2012-03-19 14:19||
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#3 What does the DHS and ICE need that many bullets for? That's more than one for each citizen.
Posted by Water Modem 2012-03-19 14:22||
2012-03-19 14:22||
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#4 SIG-Sauer P229R
Heckler & Koch UMP
Both are Immigration and Customs Enforcement weapons
Posted by Pappy 2012-03-19 14:25||
2012-03-19 14:25||
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#5 What does the DHS and ICE need that many bullets for?
One year contract with four year option - pretty much standard federal contract.
Maximum volume of 450 million rounds. Likely will never reach that amount.
ICE has somewhere between 15000 and 20000 personnel. Estimate between 50-65 percent of that in an enforcement capacity. Figure qualification firing, familiarization firing, etc.
Posted by Pappy 2012-03-19 14:33||
2012-03-19 14:33||
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#6 Thanks,Pappy --
Posted by Sherry 2012-03-19 15:22||
2012-03-19 15:22||
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#7 Does that include what gets exported to Mexican Drug Cartels?
Oh sorry. that would be the Department of Justice...
Posted by CrazyFool 2012-03-19 15:38||
2012-03-19 15:38||
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#8 So 450 million rounds over 5 years
90 million rounds a year
20,000 employees of ICE, 52 weeks a year...
About 86 rounds per employee per week.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2012-03-19 17:08||
2012-03-19 17:08||
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#9 Surprised nobody said the Glock 23. It is a .40, for standard sidearm at the FBI and still a favorite of a lot of agencies and people (self included).
Posted by OldSpook 2012-03-19 20:58||
2012-03-19 20:58||
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#10 Only a pimp from a cheap New Orleans whorehouse would carry a pearl-handled pistol plastic pistol.
Posted by Besoeker 2012-03-19 21:03||
2012-03-19 21:03||
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#11 About 86 rounds per employee per week.
SIG-Sauer P229R (S&W .40 cal): 10 to 12-round magazine.
Not sure what an agent load-out is, but figure at least two magazines per weapon carried. Again, factor in qualification firing, familiarization firing, etc.
Posted by Pappy 2012-03-19 21:48||
2012-03-19 21:48||
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#12 Two words: Zombie Apocalypse
Posted by SteveS 2012-03-19 22:31||
2012-03-19 22:31||
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#13 Realize that it's difficult to accept, but "They" know exactly what they're plotting.
Trust me.
Posted by Shamp Clong8416 2012-03-19 22:40||
2012-03-19 22:40||
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#14 ATK is also a major subcontractor to Lockheed-Martin for the F-35 skins. They wind the majority of all the fuselage and nacelle skins in Utah as well as all 6 wing versions.
maybe some of this is to keep the books balanced when the JSF goes TU......
(wind, as in they have a contoured mandrel where a carbon fiber placement machine wraps carbon threads much like a spider does to its victim. after curing it gets trimmed into final shape. )
Posted by USN, Ret. 2012-03-19 22:46||
2012-03-19 22:46||
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