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2012-03-26 Afghanistan
Afghans fear for future when Nato forces leave
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Posted by Besoeker 2012-03-26 03:21|| || Front Page|| [336084 views ]  Top

#1 Someone please remind me who they voted to run the place?
Posted by gorb 2012-03-26 10:01||   2012-03-26 10:01|| Front Page Top

#2 We provide 'opportunity'. You have to provide the rest. If you don't, what follows is your problem. Don't make it our problem again cause we probably won't do the same thing again if we have to come back.
Posted by Procopius2k 2012-03-26 12:00||   2012-03-26 12:00|| Front Page Top

#3 Tough noogies. Blow up a couple of 1000 year-old Buddhas, it'll make you feel better.

PS: Make sure we wreck anything above a 14th-century tech level before we leave.
Posted by mojo 2012-03-26 12:14||   2012-03-26 12:14|| Front Page Top

#4 That's the fundamental problem with all of this. It is not our job to provide the "opportunity of freedom". Our only job is to protect our own freedom - that is it. You cannot make a culture want to be free, they have to earn it.
Posted by Yosemite Sam 2012-03-26 12:22||   2012-03-26 12:22|| Front Page Top

#5 In other words:

You cannot impose freedom on a people.

The most you can do is to allow them to have the opportunity to be free. They have to bleed and die and yes even kill to obtain it.
Posted by CrazyFool 2012-03-26 14:05||   2012-03-26 14:05|| Front Page Top

#6 The real problem with democracy in Afghanistan is that it put our enemy (the Pashtuns) in power. Until the Pashtuns are defeated, with millions of their young men dead, we have have no peace.
Posted by Zhang Fei 2012-03-26 16:01||   2012-03-26 16:01|| Front Page Top

#7 we will have have no peace.
Posted by Zhang Fei 2012-03-26 16:01||   2012-03-26 16:01|| Front Page Top

#8 The real problem with democracy in Afghanistan is that an electorate consisting of vicious barbarians will not select a government any better than itself. FIFY.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2012-03-26 17:23||   2012-03-26 17:23|| Front Page Top

#9 If we're lucky, after the last Afghan murders the next to last Afghan, he will eat himself.
Posted by Shimble Guelph5793 2012-03-26 18:14||   2012-03-26 18:14|| Front Page Top

#10 It would have been a HELL of a lot easier for all concerned (and cheaper for us) if we'd just bombed the hell out of them on September 12, 2001. And bounced the rubble every year or so. >:-(
Posted by Barbara 2012-03-26 18:15||   2012-03-26 18:15|| Front Page Top

#11 Yosemite Sam, I agree. I've become a believer in the J curve. Once a society makes a high enough GDP democracy and freedom generally follow. Try to force democracy and freedom in before the population is ready and you will be disappointed.

Should have creamed the Taliban, hunted Al Queda and put the Northern Alliance in power (with the old constitution as a fig leaf). Then made war on drug growers and Al Quesa for a year, then decide what to do but always keep a small footprint and avoid nationbuilding.

Having said that I think we will be happier knowing we tried before turning our backs ones third world nations sink into conflict.
Posted by Rjschwarz 2012-03-26 18:54||   2012-03-26 18:54|| Front Page Top

#12 non-reciprocal culture CANNOT create enough comparative advantage to have the wealth to lift it towards "democracy and freedom"
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2012-03-26 21:05||   2012-03-26 21:05|| Front Page Top

#13 There are no 'Afghans'. There are Pashtuns, Uzbecks, Tadjiks, Azaris and a few others.
Posted by phil_b 2012-03-26 21:22||   2012-03-26 21:22|| Front Page Top

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