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2012-06-26 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Turkey: Nato should view Syria as attacking it
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Posted by Fred 2012-06-26 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ]  Top
 File under: Govt of Syria 

#1 TURKEY DEPUTY PM BULENT ARINC ...

versus

* IRNA > TURKEY NOT TO ASK NATO FOR COLLECTIVE DEFENSE [invocation of Article 5] AGZ SYRIA - ANALYSTS.

At this time.

* WAFF > TURKEY NOT WILLING TO RETALIATE AGZ SYRIA WIDOUT NATO SUPPORT | TURKEY TO PUSH NATO TO CONSIDER SYRIAN ATTACK AS ATTACK ON ALLIANCE.

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > US WILL HELP TURKEY HOLD SYRIA ACCOUNTABLE FOR JET SHOOTDOWN, SAYS OBAMA SPOKESMAN [WH Spox Jay Carney].

ARTIC = NATO Milaction agz Syria highly unlikely despite the above.

* SAME > BRITAIN PUTS FIGHTER JETS ON STANDBY TO LAUNCH ATTACK ON SYRIA | [Daily Mail@UK] MEDIA REPORTS SAY UK FIGHTER PLANES ON STANDBY TO LAUNCH ATTACK ON SYRIA.

versus

* TOPIX > FRANCE CALLS ON SYRIAN ARMY TO DESERT [individuals, units, or en masse] AFTER PILOT DEFECTION, to Turkey.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2012-06-26 02:30||   2012-06-26 02:30|| Front Page Top

#2 Well, NATO's gone to war for lesser reasons...
Posted by Pappy 2012-06-26 10:27||   2012-06-26 10:27|| Front Page Top

#3 Gee, we're sorry, but we're kinda busy right this moment. Hope you understand.

BTW: The 4th ID says "Hi!"
Posted by mojo 2012-06-26 10:50||   2012-06-26 10:50|| Front Page Top

#4 Wouldn't surprise me if the F-4's were kitted out as drones and then sent to Syrian airspace to draw fire.
Posted by Zhang Fei 2012-06-26 12:10||   2012-06-26 12:10|| Front Page Top

#5 Beat me to it, Mojo. Turkey jacked us around for weeks on the 4ID business. Nato does not have to do Turkey's dirty work.

And we need to stay out of the Syria business. Entangling alliances and all that.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2012-06-26 12:22||   2012-06-26 12:22|| Front Page Top

#6 BTW: The 4th ID says "Hi!"

You can also thank the US State Department for that foul-up.
Posted by Pappy 2012-06-26 12:29||   2012-06-26 12:29|| Front Page Top

#7 Let me see if I got it right.
Turks fly a plane into Syrian airspace, and---when it knocked down---call it an act of aggression?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2012-06-26 15:20||   2012-06-26 15:20|| Front Page Top

#8 Sounds like they were probing the Syrian SAM-net so they could pull off an Israeli-style blitz and got burned.

...was shot down a mile (1.6 kilometers) inside international airspace......was flying at an altitude of 200 feet and at a speed of 300 knots...its five-minute flight inside Syrian territory.

300 knots airspeed = 500 fps, so they were approx. 10 seconds across the border when the SAM chased them down. My sympathy is for the pilots and their families -- the Grand Turk can sit on it and rotate.
Posted by magpie 2012-06-26 15:55||   2012-06-26 15:55|| Front Page Top

#9 How much of Syria will the Turks want to keep for themselves?

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2012-06-26 16:11||   2012-06-26 16:11|| Front Page Top

#10 How long until we discover that it was Russian technicians at the controls of the missile battery.
Posted by Besoeker 2012-06-26 17:29||   2012-06-26 17:29|| Front Page Top

#11 Well if nothing else the Syrians know they SAMS work. Now if we're lucky Turkey will try to revive the Ottoman Empire here and nobody will notice us bombing Iran because they'll be to busy fighting another war that involves everyone with coastline in that area.

Granted that includes Isreal, but I'm not worried about their abilities to wipe the desert with any opposition.
Posted by Charles 2012-06-26 17:51||   2012-06-26 17:51|| Front Page Top

#12 How much of Syria will the Turks want to keep for themselves?

Well, they owned it before 1917 [can we see a 'right of return' here] even before Constantinople became Istanbul.
Posted by Procopius2k 2012-06-26 19:21||   2012-06-26 19:21|| Front Page Top

#13 DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > ERDOGAN WARNS [Bashir]BASHAR ASSAD | ERDOGAN WARNS TURKISH ARMY TO RESPOND TO ANY SYRIAN VIOLATION, describing shootdown of Turkish RF-4 as both both "hostile/heinous" acts.

and

* WAFF > TURKEY WANTS MORE PRESSURE, NOT CONFRONTATION [War], ON SYRIA OVER PLANE DOWNING.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2012-06-27 00:01||   2012-06-27 00:01|| Front Page Top

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