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#1 When firms begin dropping private insurance plans and the insurance industry takes it's last dying gasp, Obamacare will be all that remains. This was always the plan, the speed of execution is what astounds me.
Posted by Besoeker 2012-11-09 06:25||
#2 The Obamacare bills have not come in yet Besoeker. A CEO was interviewed the other day and said there there is a little box on a person's W2 form that allows the government to tax health benefits as income--that is if they are fortunate enough to have a job. Many of the people who voted for Obama have not been well-informed by this transparent government (sarc). The free lunches will last for a little while and then chaos. The buying of votes works only in the short run so long as enough workers are working. We are witnessing the killing off of the premiere medical system in the world. "Greece (not the musical) can be seen on any street corner soon. This is not the country that I knew where there were opportunities and not give-aways of other people's earnings. Communism has not worked anywhere else in the world and it will not work here. It is an incentive-destroying system for the ordinary person. It works fairly well for the union elites and the elected elites in government.
Posted by JohnQC 2012-11-09 07:44||
#3 I have been thinking. IF I make both of my employees part time I don't have to figure out which one to fire completely.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2012-11-09 07:55||
#4 Snowy, yes!. Do it soon. You will be in good company. Have them subcontract or use a skin company so they are not your employee's. Hey if they quit, the skin company will send another and another. Not your problem anymore. Loyalty is gone these days. Your in a street fight to exist. The government is not there helping you succeed.
Like trying to merge into heavy traffic, what? are they gonna play nice and let you in? no way Jose!.
Posted by Dale 2012-11-09 08:41||
#5 I attempted to explain this insurance stuff to a fellow co-worker (black) before the election, that Mr Bill will stop paying your insurance, because the penalty is less than the premiums he is currently paying (and believe me, it's a big bill he pays)... Our HSA's -- great deal -- after my deduction $1,500, everything, and I mean, everything is a total cost of $00.00. He pays $1,200 of that deduction, so our insurance costs us only $400 a year.
We also have dental and vision insurance at no cost.
And that she and her family, as a result, would get lesser benefits and big costs.... she still refuses to believe it and was H888 bent on voting for Obama, and yes, she liked Ryan, but "Romney just scares me to death." She got the message alright.
Posted by Sherry 2012-11-09 10:19||
You are missing the entire point of Federally mandated health coverage. You must have employer furnished coverage, pay for coverage from an insurance company (big $$$) or go to the Govt clearinghouse and select a policy for 7% of your (gross?) income.
Those all sound like they will involve an insurance company to me. I haven't heard a peep out of the insurance lobby lately, I will continue to assume it's because they are going to make a ton of money off this new requirement.
Posted by bigjim-CA 2012-11-09 10:35||
#7 I've been a 'Free Agent' IT worker (Project Planning and Management) for over three years now. I have solid contacts, good reputation and a decent amount of work.
This, is what a LOT of people are going to have to come to grips with. If they want to work they're going to have to become free agents. I also have tried to explain the coming chaos to several people, it's of no use. Stupid can't be fixed, and stupid combined with Leftist denial is fatal.
Going to be an interesting ride. I've started looking for a small acreage and will be selling my place in Fort Worth. Going back to the country...got to get away.
Posted by Secret Asian Man 2012-11-09 10:37||
#8 Dale, I use subcontractors a lot already, but for the people who spend most of their time working for me, I'm not sure I can any more.
Also, the two I have are loyal.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2012-11-09 10:54||
#9 Govt clearinghouse and select a policy for 7% of your (gross?) income.
Just checked - my current medical out-of-pocket expenses plus company contribution run about 9% of gross income.
Posted by Glenmore 2012-11-09 11:28||
#10 "The wealthiest of Americans should pay a little bit more>"
I suspect he and his handlers were thinking of 1099 folks as fitting into this category as well.
Posted by Besoeker 2012-11-09 11:36||
#11 That 7% means mine insurance goes up $2,500 to $3,000 a year and that won't include dental and vision. That won't make me a very happy camper!
Posted by Sherry 2012-11-09 12:21||
#12 opps -- that's "my" insurance....
Posted by Sherry 2012-11-09 12:21||
#13 Boehner should introduce legislation to remove the exemption given to Congress for ObumbleCare.
Lets see which congresscritters really believe that Obamacare is as great as they claim.
Posted by CrazyFool 2012-11-09 13:12||
#14 Good idea CrazyFool.
Posted by JohnQC 2012-11-09 13:36||